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[mikeymoonshine]

Thats fine. Thats more of a trigger for me because of marginalization within marginalized groups. It's not fun.

 

As to everything else, fair enough. I will keep my mouth shut at this point.

 

I get where you are coming from and don't think I am saying you are wrong. I just think you could do with looking into why people feel this way a little more. I am happy to hear opinions that I do not agree with but anyway I will drop it now so as not to derail this thread. 

[Statare]

I'm unsure why, but the darker skin tone gives him a more...exotic look, I guess? It's really grown on me, which is weird, because I'm normally more attracted to paler men.

 

 

And to me, personally, his darker skin makes him feel more familiar to me. Because I'm more used to that.

 

From some angles (especially from far away, like when we first saw his in-game model) his model looks like my half-brother... and that is pretty much a buzz kill. Up close he looks pretty different. I just have to focus on the angles where he doesn't look anything like any of my family members.... and convince myself it's not weird 

 

I think this whole "is Dorian white or not?" thing also shows how subjective how we read race is.

[Reznore57]

 

I think this whole "is Dorian white or not?" thing also shows how subjective how we read race is.

 

Yep , I mean where I'm from people from mediterranean origin can be seen as white or people of color depending if they're from Southern Europe or Northern Africa.

And skin colors has little to do about it , or even overall features.

It's mostly cultural.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

If Dorian is an LI, I'm going to go with a human mage to romance him. I feel like his story will impact me more if the character I've paired with him is also a mage.

 

I want to do an elven bow rogue for a second playthrough. I'd like to romance someone else the second time, honestly, but I'll just have to see if anyone else I like is available. If not, he might end up with both. lol      

[Hellion Rex]

What kind of magic would be distasteful? Spirit and healing?

Nah, the necromancy part.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

 

Edit: Whoops repost. Oh well, it's super cute, lol.

Why does Dorian have Joseph's Coat of Many Colors? 

[LinksOcarina]

Nah, the necromancy part.

 

Makes sense in Tevinter though. I don't think they see it as distasteful, unless Necromancy is considered the weak version of Blood Magic. 

 

It could be, in fact thats a nice way to go with it. Well see, I guess. 

[Hellion Rex]

Makes sense in Tevinter though. I don't think they see it as distasteful, unless Necromancy is considered the weak version of Blood Magic. 

 

It could be, in fact thats a nice way to go with it. Well see, I guess. 

I think that original poster misspoke and was referring to the White Thedas Circles seeing Necromancy as distasteful.

[Hellion Rex]

I thought Nevarra did Necromancy too though.

Yeah, but the Mortalitasi aren't affiliated with the Circles in any way. They are a mage order that is an exception to the norm, cause they have the protection of the Nevarran throne, whom Orlais can't afford to cross.

[AlexWk31]

Anyone looking forward to seeing how Dorian defends his magic if there's a party debate about it? I always play a necromancer sort so I'm ready for this and cackling mad to see this sort of interaction. Not that my mages will care. Maybe I'll have my rogue express fear or something.

 

I'm kinda worried DA:I will have those confrontations, or something like it, similar to ME2 with all these conflicting opinions within the group and we'll have to pick sides. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

I'm kinda worried DA:I will have those confrontations, or something like it, similar to ME2 with all these conflicting opinions within the group and we'll have to pick sides. 

Well, hopefully they have the third option that appeases everyone. 

[Hellion Rex]

 

Well, the Mortalitasi are still feared outside of Nevarra and were founded by a Tevinter mage in the first place. I guess they're not connected anymore, but yeah, I'm aware of those two nations having the shady magic to the rest if the nations.

I can't wait to hear from Dorian's perspective how magic is taught in the Imperium!

[Trophonius]

Spoiler

Character Profile: Dorian.http://www.dragonage...-profile-dorian
 
 [DRAGON AGE]: Let's start at the beginning. What can you tell us about Dorian?[DAVID GAIDER]: Dorian is a mage from the Tevinter Imperium, and his experiences are radically different from those of mages elsewhere.
 [DA]: How so?[DG]: In Tevinter, mages form the ruling class. He comes from a wealthy and influential family, one of many that arrange marriages and raise their children to become perfect mages… yet Dorian has rejected that life. He's seen the corruption to which it leads, and he refuses to play along despite the fact it's made him something of a pariah.[DA]: Can you expand on the "corruption" he's seen?[DG]: Without spoiling the plot, I'll say that Dorian got wind of something that his fellow Tevinter mages were doing, and decided to intervene. As he sees it, someone from Tevinter needs to stand up and say, "We don't agree with what these people are doing. They don't represent all of us."[DA]: Dorian has been described as sharp-tongued, with a knack for producing a great quip even in times of grave danger. How would you describe him?[DG]: Dorian is smart—perhaps too smart for his own good, really. He was raised in a society where both intelligence and wit are prized, where advancing yourself socially means outmaneuvering your peers, and he does so quite well… or, at least, he would if he didn't see through it all. That's left him rather jaded and sarcastic, naturally.[DA]: You're sure you didn't play some small part in cultivating that for him?[DG]: I tend to start at "sarcastic" and work my way from there.[DA]: Dorian is also a highly skilled mage. That sounds pretty useful on the battlefield.[DG]: He enjoys using his magic and doesn't see any reason why he should be ashamed about it. So he unleashes his full power when it's needed… and he has plenty of power to unleash, seeing as he comes from a society where mages are trained to use it rather than hide it. This includes powerful elemental spells, as well as spells involving the control of spirit and the dead—things societies outside of Tevinter might turn up their noses at and claim "distasteful."[DA]: Dorian seems to have a conflicted love-hate-love relationship with his homeland. Does he ever think about just leaving it all behind?[DG]: He doesn't believe that the situation in Tevinter is beyond repair, despite how impossible it seems that he personally might be able to do anything about it. Dorian has a streak of idealism hidden beneath his sarcasm, which naturally can lead him to be all the more disappointed when the world does exactly what he suspects it's going to.[DA]: How does Dorian compare to characters you've written in the past?[DG]: Dorian is an outcast—by choice, but only insofar as he chose not to live according to the expectations of his society. There are a lot of aspects to that which I enjoyed exploring, and which I haven't had to chance to do with other characters.[DA]: Anything in particular?[DG]: Dorian is gay—he is, in fact, the first fully gay character I've had the opportunity to write. It added an interesting dimension to his back story, considering he comes from a place where "perfection" is the face that every mage puts on and anything that smacks of deviancy is shameful and meant to be hidden. Dorian's refusal to play along with that façade is seen as stubborn and pointless by his family, which has contributed to his status as a pariah.[DA]: Are you happy with how his character turned out?[DG]: I suppose this aspect of Dorian will make him controversial in some corners, but I was glad to include it. It made writing Dorian a very personal experience for me, and I'm hopeful that will make him seem like a fully realized character to fans in the end.[DA]: Dorian's sarcasm must create some rather interesting banter with other members of the Inquisition. Any personal favorite combinations stand out for you?[DG]: I think I enjoy his relationship with Vivienne the most. They're complete opposites and will tear into each other viciously—or, at least, that's what it looks like to outsiders.[DA]: After listening to Mary Kirby talk about Vivienne's power, we're not so sure that's Dorian's wisest move.[DG]: Really, they find it good fun, and they'll go from arguing to banding together in order to criticize someone else in a cold second—like the Statler and Waldorf of Thedas. I love that.[DA]: Having a Qunari around has also got to yield some strange interactions.[DG]: Dorian's relationship with the Iron Bull is interesting. The Qunari have been at war with the Tevinter Imperium for centuries, after all, and the fact that neither Dorian nor Iron Bull are typical of their people makes for an intriguing arc.

I took a long nap from work and woke up to this too late. Ah, well, it doesn't dampen my excitement at the prospect of meeting our first openly gay companion. This definitely means a lot to not only me, but most importantly, to David and to others who have echoed the same sentiment.

As for Dorian himself?

[lady_v23]

Woot. He's gay! If i can't romance the iron bull with my male dwarf on my second try, I'll romance him

[AlexWk31]

Well, hopefully they have the third option that appeases everyone. 

 

"Sorry, guys. Imma paragon out of this situation." 

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Renege points usually get you a similar option.

[AlexWk31]

Renege points usually get you a similar option.

 

I could never go full renegade  I'm too weak!

[Hanako Ikezawa]

"Sorry, guys. Imma paragon out of this situation." 

Renege points usually get you a similar option.

 

"Everyone, I will make you drop your centuries of hatred for each other with a well-worded paragraph".

[Dirgegun]

Sorta randomly given the current conversation:

 

I personally hope Dorian doesn't have slaves-- and I'll post the amusing reason rather than the moral reason as everyone knows that: I like guys that can do stuff for themselves. And it would let me imagine he can cook. I like a man who can cook. 

 

But...

 

How mindblowing would it be for every other Tevinter magister if Dorian didn't keep slaves but servants. If he paid them? And paid them as well as he was able before his exile. 

[Deviija]

Aw, yeah.  Not only got more D today but gay D.  Got my Dudequisitor picked out and ready for some D lovin'.  

 

It is a good day.  

[Lebanese Dude]

That piece of fanart is seriously making me consider rolling a Dalish rogue rather than the scruffy human I had in mind. But that'll mostly depend on the character creator.

 

NO.

SCRUFFY HUMAN MASTER RACE!!!111!!

[Corephyfish]

 

Edit: Whoops repost. Oh well, it's super cute, lol.

This is perfect lol, especially considering the reveal.

[Eveangaline]

This was already posted in the cole thread but it also is Dorian hilariousness http://westerbroski....ost/90113393378