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I don't know how I'm supposed to chose between Dorian, the IB (if both of them are indeed romances), and Cullen for my first playthrough. Decisions, decisions...


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Oh to keep on talking about Dorian sexuality , I think mostly the thing that will be brought up is how he reacted about the issue and what kind of person he is.

I mean he had a good life , he had everything , he could still sleep with men behind close door , and i guess well suffer the whole breeding thing.

But he just didn't go through with it , it's funny because if he have done just that , he could have kept his influence and well tried to change the system from the inside.

A bit like what Vivienne did.

 

But I think he's probably too idealist and ...well we have a word in french , I do not know it in english.

I'd say he's the type of person who's "entier" meaning somebody who can't pretend , who can't lie , and can't suffer bullshit.



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Nocte ad Mortem, on 28 Jun 2014 - 4:54 PM, said:snapback.png

Honestly, I kind of hope sexuality isn't a particularly big focus of his character. I hope he just is gay and it's not treated much differently than any other character's sexuality. I don't really want it to be a big "thing". I've really liked how much of a non-issue it's been in the past.   

Seconded, luckily i don't think this'll be an issue at all because bioware made steve whom was very loveable and realistic, I liked how he stated his sexuality in a passing mention a few times but basically that was it. 

 

Dorian also doesn't seem to be that kind of character from what I've read (doesn't mean he won't be but he was against the entire ideals of tevinter so you know), I can't wait to see more of the characters in (hopefully) upcoming videos and stuff like that.


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I didn't think anyone was saying his sexuality would be the major focus of his arc, but I would like it to be as small a focus as it could be. If the only way we knew he was gay was that girls could flirt with him and he'd shoot it down, like I've heard Samantha does in ME3, I would be totally happy with that. A couple lines is fine, but I just would like it to be mostly a non-issue. Tevinter has plenty of gaping flaws to talk about.    



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I didn't think anyone was saying his sexuality would be the major focus of his arc, but I would like it to be as small a focus as it could be. If the only way we knew he was gay was that girls could flirt with him and he'd shoot it down, like I've heard Samantha does in ME3, I would be totally happy with that. A couple lines is fine, but I just would like it to be mostly a non-issue. Tevinter has plenty of gaping flaws to talk about.    

I must've misinterpreted your words then. it sounded like you were stating that you were worried about it being a big thing, I don't think bioware is the type to do that, they usually make characters that state their opinions in passing mentions (concerning sexuality, other stuff, well that's a different matterXD)



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I must've misinterpreted your words then. it sounded like you were stating that you were worried about it being a big thing, I don't think bioware is the type to do that, they usually make characters that state their opinions in passing mentions (concerning sexuality, other stuff, well that's a different matterXD)

If only Anders would tell us how he really felt about mage freedom, right?  :P   



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If only Anders would tell us how he really felt about mage freedom, right?  :P   

Yeah, or fenris and his ever brooding hatred of magesXD It kind of makes you feel like you're picking between one ball of twine and anotherXD

 

Onto dorian, I wonder if his primary arc besides encountering his mentor might extend to family at all, perhaps parents or if they just consider him dead in their eyes. I wonder if he will have any conflicts with them game wise or even knows some about the fade tears so he is an important figure. (I like to come up with these silly theories)



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I think his family is likely back in Tevinter and we're not going up there for this game. I do wonder how big of a plot the Tevinter faction in the countries we're visiting is, though. We don't really know much at all about what the Venatori are up to. 



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If only Anders would tell us how he really felt about mage freedom, right?  :P


I wonder what would've happened if Anders and Dorian crossed paths with each other. They both have that ambitious mage revolutionary thing going, except Dorian seems less militant about it.

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I wonder what would've happened if Anders and Dorian crossed paths with each other. They both have that ambitious mage revolutionary thing going, except Dorian seems less militant about it.

Well, to be fair, Dorian doesn't really need to be militant about it. Dorian doesn't seem to be under much threat. Anders was like a rat in a cage in Kirkwall. He was under extreme pressure with no real power, under constant threat of being locked up and basically lobotomized, seeing that and worse happen to friends. Dorian seems pretty free to make his own choices. He's opposed to what his fellow mages are doing, but we haven't gotten much impression that he's personally under threat. He's described as an outcast by choice. It doesn't sound much like he's being hunted down. In fact, I kind of get the impression that his family might think it's a phase and he'll come back around. At least when things get started.     


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I didn't think anyone was saying his sexuality would be the major focus of his arc, but I would like it to be as small a focus as it could be. If the only way we knew he was gay was that girls could flirt with him and he'd shoot it down, like I've heard Samantha does in ME3, I would be totally happy with that. A couple lines is fine, but I just would like it to be mostly a non-issue. Tevinter has plenty of gaping flaws to talk about.    

 

Oh she definitely does. And more.

The words she uses to explain her intentions towards EDI's voice... 

Fortunately the feeling's mutual :P



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I'm wondering how long Dorian has been kicked out of the Imperium for? Maevrais references a Magister exiled to the Anderfels who is quite skilled with spirit magic so it could be him or perhaps it's his former master Alexius?

While Dorian is proud of his talent for magic hopefully he'll have some restraint in showing off:

Blackwall: How's the nose?

Dorian: (sounding a little more nasally than usual) It's in the right place, perhaps it will add to my rugged good looks. How's the tavern?

Blackwall: Still standing, Varric and the boss managed to talk the patrons out of trying to burn you at the stake.

Dorian: It was just a little party trick, I have no idea why that brute accosted me.

Blackwall: Lad, the Mage Rebellion and Templars have been skirmishing near here for months. Inquisitor's retinue or not, these people are on edge and casual spell casting doesn't help.

Dorian: I suppose the Inquisitor will have be sleeping on the couch for this.

Blackwall: Be glad that the Seeker isn't here, you'd be sleeping *in* the couch.
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Hi people, this is my first post :) 

I wonder what is Dorian's specialization? 

I thought he would be the Knight Enchanter, but after Gaider said he uses spells relating to spirits and the dead, I'm thinking he might be the Necromancer. 


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Hi people, this is my first post :)

I wonder what is Dorian's specialization? 

I thought he would be the Knight Enchanter, but after Gaider said he uses spells relating to spirits and the dead, I'm thinking he might be the Necromancer. 

 

Welcome to the Forum! (:

 

As far as I'm aware it hasn't been confirmed, but I would guess Necromancer as well.

Knowing as little as I do about him, maybe I'll play a morose Inquisitor whose personality he could also reanimate. d;


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Well, to be fair, Dorian doesn't really need to be militant about it. Dorian doesn't seem to be under much threat. Anders was like a rat in a cage in Kirkwall. He was under extreme pressure with no real power, under constant threat of being locked up and basically lobotomized, seeing that and worse happen to friends. Dorian seems pretty free to make his own choices. He's opposed to what his fellow mages are doing, but we haven't gotten much impression that he's personally under threat. He's described as an outcast by choice. It doesn't sound much like he's being hunted down. In fact, I kind of get the impression that his family might think it's a phase and he'll come back around. At least when things get started.


Yeah, this is all very true. I think Dorian's repudiation of his enormously wealthy and privileged background is a testament to his character. Rather than accede to the status quo, he instead chose to devote himself to a worthwhile cause and expresses the desire to improve the squalid conditions in his country. He already looks to be a departure from most of the magisters we've seen so far and that's something we can always look forward to.
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One question that I have is what happens if Dorian succeeds? If he goes full-on Maximus Decimus Meridius and wants to return Tevinter to the people, that might cause chaos. The other question is what that would do to the Imperium's ongoing conflict with the Qunari? While corrupt and decadent, the raw magical power Tevinter can field is what's keeping them from breaking through their borders and invading the whole of Thedas.

So what is Dorian's plan outside of assisting the Inquisition? Is he hoping that helping to seal the Breach will allow him to return to Tevinter as a hero? Or are there other motives?

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Dorian's orientation is really painful thing. I was waiting for this charcter very much, I liked his story, his charcter, and was very happy to know that my favorite script writer writes it. But. He appeared to be a gay (I'm talking about Dorian). I hoped up to last moment that he be bi. But the hope died. ( And this kills him as LI for me, because I understand I can't play a gay boy. Can't. It's as hard for me as hard for gay to make love with a woman. Throw I always defende gays in discussions, I never liked yaoi and the view of kissing gyus havn't give me any aethetic pleasure. 

And I don't see any replacement for Dorian. Sera? She is great, but she is a girl, and I wanted a good HETERO romance. Cullen? Despise him since DAII. Blackwall? Grandpa, and I fell myself near him a a grandchild, not like a woman. Solas? He is more sientists than man. Cole an Varrick? Good variants, but unromanceble. So it appeared that there is no romance in DAI for me. And it's really depess me, because in my real life there is little place for romantic. Work and fear of the future (I live in Russia). Bioware games gave me some illusion, and that's why I played them. And now even this illusion was taken away. Pain. (

So my interest to DAI sharply decreased. And to all future bioware games too, because now I fear that they make all characters I'd admire gays.


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Dorian's *Snip*

 
We don't know if Varric won't be romancable, we don't know much at all about Solas, but I am rather sure he is a man.

1 out of ca 10, doesn't make a pattern. 



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Dorian's orientation is really painful thing. I was waiting for this charcter very much, I liked his story, his charcter, and was very happy to know that my favorite script writer writes it. But. He appeared to be a gay (I'm talking about Dorian). I hoped up to last moment that he be bi. But the hope died. ( And this kills him as LI for me, because I understand I can't play a gay boy. Can't. It's as hard for me as hard for gay to make love with a woman. Throw I always defende gays in discussions, I never liked yaoi and the view of kissing gyus havn't give me any aethetic pleasure.
And I don't see any replacement for Dorian. Sera? She is great, but she is a girl, and I wanted a good HETERO romance. Cullen? Despise him since DAII. Blackwall? Grandpa, and I fell myself near him a a grandchild, not like a woman. Solas? He is more sientists than man. Cole an Varrick? Good variants, but unromanceble. So it appeared that there is no romance in DAI for me. And it's really depess me, because in my real life there is little place for romantic. Work and fear of the future (I live in Russia). Bioware games gave me some illusion, and that's why I played them. And now even this illusion was taken away. Pain. (
So my interest to DAI sharply decreased. And to all future bioware games too, because now I fear that they make all characters I'd admire gays.


While I understand your pain, don't you think it's still too early to shoot the other options down? All the details aren't out yet. Even if Dorian is bi or even straight, there is still chance that his romance may not be satisfying for you.

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really?!  yolo in the damn title?!  kids these days...


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I didn't think anyone was saying his sexuality would be the major focus of his arc, but I would like it to be as small a focus as it could be. If the only way we knew he was gay was that girls could flirt with him and he'd shoot it down, like I've heard Samantha does in ME3, I would be totally happy with that. A couple lines is fine, but I just would like it to be mostly a non-issue. Tevinter has plenty of gaping flaws to talk about.    

I got the feeling Dorian's orientation would be brought up in the game, because his experience around it isn't anything like that of rest of Thedas. Conversations about how his family tried to match him up with these female mages of other powerful families, disappointment in him not making perfect little mages of his own etc. I don't think he got out of it with a view of his orientation as a "non-issue". So I don't think they'll treat it that way.


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really?!  yolo in the damn title?!  kids these days...

It was the writers that coined it.  The OP just put it in the title.