Where do you think Dorian stands on the Mage Circle issue?
He is going to be against the wretched Circles, he grew up in society where mages are considered to be gods by the peasant and slaves. Dorian may.. want to change the Imperium but he definitely won't kneel to those absurd Chantry rules.
I wonder how they will handle the initiation of the romance. Will they flirt with you like in DA2? I get the feeling they might not just cause of all that complaining about it from straight male gamers.
He will probably tell of his sexuality early on leaving it up to the choices of the player wheather or not to pursue it, if you do pursue it then begins the flirting otherwise he may not mention it anymore so some of the more fearfull straight players wont run for the hills.
I bet he sleeps on his back so he doesn't risk smooshing the 'stache up against the pillows. lol
He will probably tell of his sexuality early on leaving it up to the choices of the player wheather or not to pursue it, if you do pursue it then begins the flirting otherwise he may not mention it anymore so some of the more fearfull straight players wont run for the hills.
The devs have mentioned before that in some cases characters will talk about their sexuality regardless of whether the player is in a romance with them. 
That's kinda the point of having exclusively lesbian or gay characters - their past experiences or stories can come up and be part of the plot in DA:I, rather than staying ambiguous or player-defined.
The devs have mentioned before that in some cases characters will talk about their sexuality regardless of whether the player is in a romance with them.
That's kinda the point of having exclusively lesbian or gay characters - their past experiences or stories can come up and be part of the plot in DA:I, rather than staying ambiguous or player-defined.
Ah good, that's what I like to hear bioware. 
I don't think we should assume that something must happen just because lots of people want it.
If nothing else, that's a poor way to make decisions about development...
Thats the beauty of making Cullen bisexual. Then his romance development is done and thousands of people would be happy in that aspect of his character, then they can develop more important aspects accordingly.
The devs have mentioned before that in some cases characters will talk about their sexuality regardless of whether the player is in a romance with them.
That's kinda the point of having exclusively lesbian or gay characters - their past experiences or stories can come up and be part of the plot in DA:I, rather than staying ambiguous or player-defined.
Good I like that, they have also said that your romance will want to talk about the romance from time to time about what I dont know but I suspect lots of random kissing, hugging, and flirting will be involved in these conversations.
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The devs have mentioned before that in some cases characters will talk about their sexuality regardless of whether the player is in a romance with them.
That's kinda the point of having exclusively lesbian or gay characters - their past experiences or stories can come up and be part of the plot in DA:I, rather than staying ambiguous or player-defined.
I plan on playing as a female on my first run through, and I'm really intrigued as to his friendship arc. I know DG believes very strongly in a well-rounded friendship arc so I'm sure I won't be disappointed
Well it has been said Dorian and Vivienne wont hesitate to join up and flip crap on someone so I assume he would be a nice snarky and supportive friend to a femquisitor. unless you dont support his cause against the injustices of tevinter then he may not be so friendly wheather your a male or female.
Thats the beauty of making Cullen bisexual. Then his romance development is done and thousands of people would be happy in that aspect of his character, then they can develop more important aspects accordingly.
i hope they dont, just so the cullen fans get blamed for setting fire to bioware's office and as a consequence his character is never allowed in future releases due to the "night of flaming noodles."
Well it has been said Dorian and Vivienne wont hesitate to join up and flip crap on someone so I assume he would be a nice snarky and supportive friend to a femquisitor.
god i feel old after seeing that
I think it is a positive step forward giving each companion their own sexuality rather than defining it by the player. It was annoying with DA2 coming to the forums and seeing people going on about how traumatised Anders must have been by having to kill his former lover, etc, and me thinking, what? Because you see my first Hawke was female and that aspect never came up in conversation because for her he was straight.
I think Dorian will probably raise his sexuality fairly early on because it is part of the reason he had to leave Tevinter, why he is considered a pariah by his family. Naturally as a PC I would wonder why someone from a powerful Magister family would turn his back on it. He might have come to question the system even without the added complication of his sexuality but it may be that it was his family's attitude to this that made him start to question everything else. Obviously once we get to talk to him that will be made clear. It would seem far more natural for something to come up in the context of his history and then leave the option open for the PC to pursuit it at a later date or for him just to say (Zevran style), do you think it could ever go anywhere between us?
I'm hoping it will be more like this rather than DA2 method of heart icon, click. For a start off I found the introduction of the flirt option on practically the first serious conversation you had with either Anders or Fenris really crass. We had Anders explaining about his relationship with Justice, which was a really difficult subject, and then suddenly you are hitting on him. Likewise, after Fenris has just told you about Danarius wanting to strip the skin from his body. Yet first play through I couldn't be sure if avoiding taking that option would shut off romance altogether.
In ME3 we actually had to two different approaches, one of which worked, the other didn't. The first was with Steve. I don't know what happened if you weren't in a relationship but my male Shepard in a romance with Jack, made a flirty comment at the nightclub, to which Steve replied that he knew I was just kidding because I had a girl friend. To which I replied, yes you got me, or words to that effect. So Steven took it as just a bit of banter between friends and that was an end of it.
The second, which didn't work, was with Kaiden, when it seemed that purely on the basis of visiting in hospital and giving him a gift, suddenly when we're having a friendly chat in the Citadel he was confessing his love for me, even though I was in a romance with Tali. That made me feel really bad because I had no idea he was even gay, let alone I had inadvertently given him the come on simply by being a caring friend.
So I'm really hopeful that the Dorian romance arc will be treated in a way that develops naturally and that it is also possible to have a close friendship with him, either male or female, without him taking it the wrong way.
I think it is a positive step forward giving each companion their own sexuality rather than defining it by the player. It was annoying with DA2 coming to the forums and seeing people going on about how traumatised Anders must have been by having to kill his former lover, etc, and me thinking, what? Because you see my first Hawke was female and that aspect never came up in conversation because for her he was straight.
it is a positive step for giving them their own sexuality, but at this point im just sick of hearing about it all over the place. I mean if cullen isnt bi, are people not going to buy the game? no, because the cullen fans still want to see him. Im just starting to see the argument as more and more pointless... just be happy they add the romances for added effect
The second, which didn't work, was with Kaiden, when it seemed that purely on the basis of visiting in hospital and giving him a gift, suddenly when we're having a friendly chat in the Citadel he was confessing his love for me, even though I was in a romance with Tali. That made me feel really bad because I had no idea he was even gay, let alone I had inadvertently given him the come on simply by being a caring friend.
So I'm really hopeful that the Dorian romance arc will be treated in a way that develops naturally and that it is also possible to have a close friendship with him, either male or female, without him taking it the wrong way.
Sometimes people do get the wrong impression in real life, and interpret kindness or friendship as attraction. Sometimes people aren't even forthcoming with their sexuality, and you can't tell until they ask you out. Mixed signals and misunderstandings are part of being human, especially when it comes to strong emotions.
I don't think the devs should cut out all instances of characters hitting on the player just because some people find it uncomfortable, or because it makes them feel bad. All of the romances are optional, after all, and you can decline any of them. I wouldn't describe the Steve romance as any more "natural" than Kaidan's - just different.
(That being said, I fully expect Dorian's romance to be behind fifteen layers of dialogue and for him to never make a pass at the player, because the howling from entitled teenagers who seem to haunt IGN's comment section made it clear that they can't tolerate any association with gay people, period.)
I don't think the devs should cut out all instances of characters hitting on the player just because some people find it uncomfortable, or because it makes them feel bad. All of the romances are optional, after all, and you can decline any of them. I wouldn't describe the Steve romance as any more "natural" than Kaidan's - just different.
(That being said, I fully expect Dorian's romance to be behind fifteen layers of dialogue and for him to never make a pass at the player, because the howling from entitled teenagers who seem to haunt IGN's comment section made it clear that they can't tolerate any association with gay people, period.)
Yes, I totally agree with you! And I actually like characters who try to make the first step and start flirting with you, even if you're not into them. I take it as a compliment. That was one thing I liked in DA:O.
Yes, I totally agree with you! And I actually like characters who try to make the first step and start flirting with you, even if you're not into them. I take it as a compliment. That was one thing I liked in DA:O.
The best cinematic reaction to a compliment, once Garth's reaction starts. I saw the movie when I was 12 and believe it or not, it taught me how to take a compliment.
Take it away, Garth!
I think it's more natural to have companions in your team who try to flirt or fall in love with you, even if you don't share the same feelings in return. I think it's always a bad thing to forbid them these feelings, just because people could get offended. If the inquisitor is allowed to flirt with his companions why shouldn't they get the same rights? I consciously don't say it's mor realistic, but it feels more natural to me. And as long as you can softly reject them I wouldn't make a big deal about it. : )
I see where you're coming from and basically I'm happy with anything other than how it was handled in DA2 (not the sexuality bit but the first move). I'm certainly not going to buy the game simply because I can't do a romance. The relationships, romance or otherwise, do add to the role playing experience though. For me it is not a case of click button or not. I like to have a reason why a particular PC might act in a particular way or be attracted to a particular person, even if I, personally, am not. First run through, though, the PC tends to be closest to how I am in outlook, so will tend towards people that I do find personally attractive, not just in looks but in character as well. Sometimes it works out that the person I am most attracted to in game was not the one I originally thought I would be, so I end up having to develop my next PC to accommodate this. Meanwhile the first PC just concentrates on developing their friendship with that companion. One of the best bits of ME3 for me was when Garrus took us up to shoot cans, just two friends hanging out and letting Shepard forget their responsibilities for a short time. I like touches like that.
I think it's more natural to have companions in your team who try to flirt or fall in love with you, even if you don't share the same feelings in return. I think it's always a bad thing to forbid them these feelings, just because people could get offended. If the inquisitor is allowed to flirt with his companions why shouldn't they get the same rights? I consciously don't say it's mor realistic, but it feels more natural to me. And as long as you can softly reject them I wouldn't make a big deal about it. : )
While I agree with you, the sad fact (for now) is that the gaming industry and the gaming community still needs some more time to mature in order to accept someone of the same sex hitting on them. It isn't just men either; I've met more than my fair share of homophobic women too. Generally though, women tend to be less bothered by it.
I certainly hope that they'll bring back companion initiated flirting eventually, but I doubt we'll see something like that again until the fourth or fifth Dragon Age game. 
While I agree with you, the sad fact (for now) is that the gaming industry and the gaming community still needs some more time to mature in order to accept someone of the same sex hitting on them. It isn't just men either; I've met more than my fair share of homophobic women too. Generally though, women tend to be less bothered by it.
I certainly hope that they'll bring back companion initiated flirting eventually, but I doubt we'll see something like that again until the fourth or fifth Dragon Age game.
yes, I hope we'll see more companions who start flirting with you in future games. I have a friend. And once, a stranger came to him and started flirting when he travelled by train. My friend softly rejected him and everything was okay. It can happen in real life. It's a pity that it can't happen in games too.
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