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Even if the twirling was silly, it was still better than DA:O's "poking dead squirrel" motion.

 
:lol:  I'll never be able to see mage combat in DAO as anything else now.
 

So which Inquisitor is everyone using to romance Dorian? :L


Mage elf quizzy, been wanting to play as an elf since DA2, and this and this just convinced me even more. I'll get to watch him save the world together with Dorian :wub:



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DA2's animations looked fine to me, the problem was the speed.

 

Those same animations with a slower pacing and some added weight would actually look pretty cool.


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#8578
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Funny how one question in a community interview where Dorian is mentioned as gay becomes "BioWare made a press release to announce it".

 

 

David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  56s

Also, despite Dorian's sexuality being (evidently) news, it's not all that defines him. Unless it's all you care about. But that's on you.

 

 

David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  42s

Also, FYI: he's the first gay character *I've* written. It's not DA's first (Sera), and definitely not BioWare's (Cortez, Traynor, Juhani).


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DA2's animations looked fine to me, the problem was the speed.

 

Those same animations with a slower pacing and some added weight would actually look pretty cool.

Minus the nonsensical flipping and teleporting rogues and single handed two-handed sword fighting, sure. 



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David Gaider ‏@davidgaider

Funny how one question in a community interview where Dorian is mentioned as gay becomes "BioWare made a press release to announce it".
 
 
David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  56s
Also, despite Dorian's sexuality being (evidently) news, it's not all that defines him. Unless it's all you care about. But that's on you.
 
 
David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  42s
Also, FYI: he's the first gay character *I've* written. It's not DA's first (Sera), and definitely not BioWare's (Cortez, Traynor, Juhani).

That's good. While representation is important, there's nothing worse than the feeling you're supposed to like or romance a character because they're gay/targeted toward you, supposedly. If Dorian interests me (and DG seems to write characters I like) I'll roll a character for him. If not, I won't.

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David Gaider ‏@davidgaider


Funny how one question in a community interview where Dorian is mentioned as gay becomes "BioWare made a press release to announce it".

 

 

David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  56s

Also, despite Dorian's sexuality being (evidently) news, it's not all that defines him. Unless it's all you care about. But that's on you.

 

 

David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  42s

Also, FYI: he's the first gay character *I've* written. It's not DA's first (Sera), and definitely not BioWare's (Cortez, Traynor, Juhani).

 

Buzz words, David. This is why I argue its not as important as everyone is making it out to be.

 

Still, at least its some press. Any form of attention is better than no attention, that's for sure. 



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David Gaider @davidgaider  ·  42s

Also, FYI: he's the first gay character *I've* written. It's not DA's first (Sera), and definitely not BioWare's (Cortez, Traynor, Juhani).

 

Poor Sera.

To be honest I was happier about Dorian mostly because I knew a lot of people wanted a gay romance with him on the BSN.

I feel like for the women , people were more interested in a gay romance with Cass or maybe Vivienne.

I may be wrong though.



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Honestly, I think it's really dumb that people argue if Sera or Dorian is the first gay character/LI in Dragon Age. They're in the same game. They're the first gay characters in DA, neither of them was really there before the other one. They'll be released together. 



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Sera was technically revealed as a lesbian first, though :P

 

At least, that's what I think David meant.

 

And the media *absolutely* didn't make as much fuss of Sera, even if the reaction on the BSN wasn't so nice.



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Such an interesting article here on representation of gay characters in Bioware's games, and why "unrealistically" positive portrayals of same-sex relationships can be a good and powerful thing. There's a paraphrased quote from David Gaider that I really like. 

 

The author wondered whether ME and DA were presenting a setting that was all sunshine and rainbows, in the sense that gay relationships were unremarkable and entirely free of stigmatisation and the other issues that persist in the real world. 

 

David's paraphrased response was:

 

"Sure, he said. It is idealistic, maybe even simplistic, to make a world in which gay characters roam free. But is that really such a bad dream to have? For players looking for a rare chance to experience this dream, the fantasy can be just as powerful as one about slaying dragons."

 

Definitely recommend reading the article, it's well worth your time. 

 

I'm also interested that Dorian as a character is sort of changing up their traditional approach by introducing us to a setting in which his sexuality does attract criticism, misunderstanding and, perhaps, ostracisation - but he's entirely unapologetic about it all the same. 


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For me, Dorian has always been the most interesting character. I have a soft spot for someone who appears to 'have it all' but gives it up as a matter of principle.  His sexuality is only of importance in so far as it will determine what sort of character my quizzy will be for the first playthrough - I'd play as a nug if that's what it took to romance him. (Granted, the banter would be rather limited... :P )


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Sera was technically revealed as a lesbian first, though :P

 

At least, that's what I think David meant.

 

And the media *absolutely* didn't make as much fuss of Sera, even if the reaction on the BSN wasn't so nice.

 

It might also be that they pitched Sera before Dorian. 



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( I should add: it's hard to express how gratifying and affirming it is that Bioware support diverse relationships and characters in their videogames, even in the face of some incredibly ugly opposition. At the end of the day the fantasy of a world without stigmatisation will remain a fantasy, at least for the moment, but why do we play games if not to imagine something better? Thank you again. Truly.)


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I totally just realized that the media *didn't* respond so largely to Sera, and of course the gaming community as a whole *didn't* respond so negatively when Bioware was confirmed to have a Lesbian but a hoobaba formed when Dorian was revealed to be a gay male... BUt I'm not gonna get into that. 

 

I just really hope he isn't like Doc from SWTOR I know they look similar but >.> I'm hoping that's the only thing that's similar. 



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"Sure, he said. It is idealistic, maybe even simplistic, to make a world in which gay characters roam free. But is that really such a bad dream to have? For players looking for a rare chance to experience this dream, the fantasy can be just as powerful as one about slaying dragons."

 

We need more comments like this. I have such immense respect for Gaider.


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Please don't be the 'sensitive' stereotype, please don't be the sensitive stereotype *fingers crossed* What? I just happen to like my men just like my women: With steel in hand and with a spine of iron :P Also: glorious moustache is glorious.

That being said, interested to finally meet a tevinter mage that is not a kill-on-sight kind of person. We haven't really seen or heard anything but the bad side so far from that part of thedas and an insight in the mage empire would be most interesting.

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I really love that quote from Gaider. It's really meant a lot to me that same sex relationships in ME and DA have been treated as largely accepted and without stigma. Of the small amount of same sex relationships media offers, almost all of them are tragic and mired down with the negative pressure society puts on them. It gets really draining when the only representation of same sex relationships is so heavily tied to how hard it is having one due to outside disapproval. 

 

If I'm being totally honest, that does make me feel a little uneasy about Dorian's background. I'm going to wait and see how it plays out, though. At least we're actually in a setting where others around us shouldn't react negatively, even if his background is different.


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#8593
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Someone wanted a Victorian Dorian? 

 

dorian_dragon_age_etc_by_ymirr-d7p28oh.j


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#8594
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That is...

 

I just....

 

how do you draw so well

 

how



#8595
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Give that man a monocle and his outfit will be complete.



#8596
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I CALL DIBS



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DAMMIT PINECONE. HE'S MINE



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Amazing job! That might actually be my favorite art piece yet. And there have been a lot of great ones.  


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DAMMIT PINECONE. HE'S MINE

 

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For me, Dorian has always been the most interesting character. I have a soft spot for someone who appears to 'have it all' but gives it up as a matter of principle.  His sexuality is only of importance in so far as it will determine what sort of character my quizzy will be for the first playthrough - I'd play as a nug if that's what it took to romance him. (Granted, the banter would be rather limited... :P )

So I need to share what happened in my head. Banter between Schmooples and Dorian.

 

Schmooples: *snuffle*

Dorian: Is he snuffling me?

Schmooples: *snuffle snuffle*

Dorian: I love you too.

Schmooples: *happy squeal*!


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