I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned a lot (or at least once), but at least I make a plight (of some sort) to make his moustache fuller (i.e. more volume) not just looks like someone drew it with permanent marker.
So far, I like his character and some of his remarks, but there's one thing that bugging me about him, it's his marker moustache.
I think every mage benefits from that
I think he meant that Dorian won't be like Anders.
I still love Anders.
But I don't imagine Dorian is going to be attached enough to other countries to do something like that. I do wonder how he'll react to the state of mages outside Tevinter, though.
That's one of the reason why I like having a Tevinter mage as a companion.
They wouldn't do that 2 games in role I'm sure...
P.S. can I just quickly add that I'm glad this thread stays more civil then the romance one.
He seems the type to at least warn you about it first.
I think he meant that Dorian won't be like Anders.
I know I was just pointing out if Mages were doing the oppressing than they all would benefit, like in Tevinter, which, what do ya know, Dorian comes from 
HA HA! I can see that happening! Typical villain cliche, "I will destroy you! But first! Let me explain my evil plans in he tail to you and give you time to escape."
I can see him falling into that trope ahahaha
What's the point of destroying your enemies if you don't tell them how magnificent you are first.
That would be something I can imagine Dorian saying!!!!!!!! Not that I know for sureWhat's the point of destroying your enemies if you don't tell them how magnificent you are first.
What's up with the romance thread? I don't go in there much because it's so intense.
Nothing too serious, but it seems there's a good bit of passive aggressive comments and arguing about the different aspects of inclusion and such. I tend to pick up on tone more easily then others though, so it could be just me. LOL!
*snip*
What's up with the romance thread? I don't go in there much because it's so intense.
Just stewing in our own madness for the moment, nbd
Just here for a daily dose of Dorian fannart God he's so pretty!
http://nug-inquisito...ost/91684633610
Thank the maker for all of these beautiful tumblr artists and deviant artists along with the artists on these lovely forums for making brilliant fan art. It quells my hunger while at the same time creating more.
I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned a lot (or at least once), but at least I make a plight (of some sort) to make his moustache fuller (i.e. more volume) not just looks like someone drew it with permanent marker.
So far, I like his character and some of his remarks, but there's one thing that bugging me about him, it's his marker moustache.
its the alpha build, I personally didn't see a problem with it but if everyone is correct it should be fixed by release
What can you not stand about them? :v
Sorry for answering so late. I dunno, I don't have an exact answer to that. Pointy ears? too thin and perfect? they look arrogant to me? All of these are stereotypes of elves, and I cannot get to play as them myself. I know, a bit shallow and all that...well, at least it's prejudice aganist an imaginary race lol, on real life I'm not racist at all.
Surprisingly enough, today I was remembering the wardens I played before on origins, and I remembered that I actually played a female city elf rogue warden, and the story striked me, maybe it was their humble origin, or what they had to suffer in such hostile environment as the elvenage? It's just me anyway, I'm weirdo like that.
I'm pretty sure this has been mentioned a lot (or at least once), but at least I make a plight (of some sort) to make his moustache fuller (i.e. more volume) not just looks like someone drew it with permanent marker.
So far, I like his character and some of his remarks, but there's one thing that bugging me about him, it's his marker moustache.
I would love this.
But, in all seriousness, his mustache is a bit off. I'd love if it were as voluptuous and magnificent as the one in the war room picture where he obviously has that enraged, "THAT IS MAHOGANY, INQUISITOR!" look as the Inquisitor stabs the map/table.
Also, amazing The Picture of Dorian Gray reference. I keep wanting to call him Dorian Gray so much.
EDIT: I keep thinking it's Portrait, instead of Picture. Guh.
I still love Anders.
But I don't imagine Dorian is going to be attached enough to other countries to do something like that. I do wonder how he'll react to the state of mages outside Tevinter, though.
I'm torn between wanting him to react with devastated shock - having heard about the treatment of mages outside Tevinter, but not realising what the reality of that meant - or with a less naive grimness - his disillusionment with the social/racial stratification and the treatment of slaves there having jaded him to the possibilities already.
What's the point of destroying your enemies if you don't tell them how magnificent you are first.
Sure that's all well and good. But then you find yourself on your back in a pool of blood and realize, "They caught me monologuing!"
I'll just kill my enemies, then throw in a post-mortem one liner.
*Freezes enemy, then shatters them*
"Stay cool"
*Lights an enemy on fire*
"What a hothead"
...I'll stop now.
Mr. Freeze, is that you?
I feel there's something magnificent and enlightening I can add, but then I just get distracted by Dorian. 
On a more serious note: I don't believe he'll be like Anders at all. In act, I can see him being rather cross at his methods. After all, you don't help people see your race/country/people/existence in a different light by giving the majority reason to see it in an even worse version of the light they already see it in.
I like Anders, mind, and I do believe he was backed into a corner, both by what he was watching go on and by Justice. I just feel Dorian might have very different views. Maybe even views that are more idealistic than they should be?
~*~speculation~*~
I feel there's something magnificent and enlightening I can add, but then I just get distracted by Dorian.
On a more serious note: I don't believe he'll be like Anders at all. In act, I can see him being rather cross at his methods. After all, you don't help people see your race/country/people/existence in a different light by giving the majority reason to see it in an even worse version of the light they already see it in.
I like Anders, mind, and I do believe he was backed into a corner, both by what he was watching go on and by Justice. I just feel Dorian might have very different views. Maybe even views that are more idealistic than they should be?
~*~speculation~*~
Well Dorian seems like a maybe arrogant PR guy, Anders didn't care much about his reputation.
But I wonder if both are suffering from their idealism , because Anders was unhappy , he thought screwing everything up for everybody was fine.Not all mages are against the circles.Some just wanted some reform.
I can imagine Dorian may also think he has a huge back up in Tevinter , and it may not be the case.The Imperium is not in a great situation , but they are still standing.Dorian is fighting against traditions holding the place for centuries.
Besides the slaves over there tends to rebel and they have the Qunari putting pressure on them.
Good thing about those magisters is , they tend to unite to beat their foes.
And why would people change their mind about Tevinter anyway?
Unless Dorian is bringing an army of Tevinter mages with him to help , I'm not sure people will notice him...It's like thinking people will change their minds about the Qunari because The Iron Bull joins the fight.
Dorian , forever alone.That's how I picture him.
Well Dorian seems like a maybe arrogant PR guy, Anders didn't care much about his reputation.
But I wonder if both are suffering from their idealism , because Anders was unhappy , he thought screwing everything up for everybody was fine.Not all mages are against the circles.Some just wanted some reform.
I can imagine Dorian may also think he has a huge back up in Tevinter , and it may not be the case.The Imperium is not in a great situation , but they are still standing.Dorian is fighting against traditions holding the place for centuries.
Besides the slaves over there tends to rebel and they have the Qunari putting pressure on them.
Good thing about those magisters is , they tend to unite to beat their foes.
And why would people change their mind about Tevinter anyway?
Unless Dorian is bringing an army of Tevinter mages with him to help , I'm not sure people will notice him...It's like thinking people will change their minds about the Qunari because The Iron Bull joins the fight.
Dorian , forever alone.That's how I picture him.
He won't be forever alone if my Inquisitor has anything to say about it.
As for Anders and Dorian...
Well, Anders had a lot of reasons to do what he did. He saw a lot of things that demanded a change. It ignores certain issues with both Anders and the magi circles to sum his character up as 'he wasn't happy, so ignored others and screwed everyone over'.
We don't know much about Dorian yet, but I don't think he'll be arrogant or ignorant in his goals. Confident and arrogant in himself? Certainly, but I believe he knows exactly what his country is like and knows exactly what people think. As idealistic and a bit full of himself as he might be, I could easily imagine him knowing he's fighting a losing battle too.
That doesn't mean he's not gonna give it a damn good try, though. It's certainly better than sitting around, surrounded by corruption, keeping his mouth shut and not taking a stand. This is something he became exiled over, so I think he has a pretty dogged opinion on his own morals and what he doesn't think his country should be.
Apparently Dorian is an Altus, not a Magister, according to Lady Insanity's interview with David Gaider. D:
Apparently Dorian is an Altus, not a Magister, according to Lady Insanity's interview with David Gaider. D:
I think I might have missed this part of the lore. Could someone educate me on what an Atlus is? 
He won't be forever alone if my Inquisitor has anything to say about it.
As for Anders and Dorian...
Well, Anders had a lot of reasons to do what he did. He saw a lot of things that demanded a change. It ignores certain issues with both Anders and the magi circles to sum his character up as 'he wasn't happy, so ignored others and screwed everyone over'.
We don't know much about Dorian yet, but I don't think he'll be arrogant/ignorant in his goals. Confident and arrogant in himself? Certainly, but I believe he knows exactly what his country is like and knows exactly what people think. As idealistic and a bit full of himself as he might be, I could easily imagine him knowing he's fighting a losing battle too.
That doesn't mean he's not gonna give it a damn good try, though. It's certainly better than sitting around, surrounded by corrupt, keeping his mouth shut and not taking a stand. This is something he became exiled over, so I think he has a pretty dogged opinion on his own morals and what he doesn't think his country should be.
Well I met "forever alone" in his crusade.I mean I imagine few Inquisitor are going to go "Yes , saving Tevinter is important."Could make sense for a human mage , or a dwarf ...but strange for Dalish or Qunari.
I imagine all our party member are also going to raise an eyebrown about the whole thing.
As for Anders my point was , he was also a lone crusader.Yes some mage faction were openly rebelling , but they were minor enough for the Chantry to ignore it.Anders forced everyone hand , it's not about him being justified or not .He also went full "pariah" (apostate) and I don't think , for now , most circle mages sees him as a hero.(at least in asunder ).
And yeah it's cool Dorian is taking a stand , but as far as I can tell , he's fighting all alone in the name of a whole country.
I hope his expectations are pretty low , because he's going to end up pretty sour.
I think I might have missed this part of the lore. Could someone educate me on what an Atlus is?
It means Dorian is part of the Tevinter elite.
They are descendant of the original dreamers^^
And they are usualy magisters or very important people.
They also have been killed when the cult of Andraste became popular , non mages had more power for a while but they rise up the rank again in Tevinter after a while.
Well I met "forever alone" in his crusade.I mean I imagine few Inquisitor are going to go "Yes , saving Tevinter is important."Could make sense for a human mage , or a dwarf ...but strange for Dalish or Qunari.
I imagine all our party member are also going to raise an eyebrown about the whole thing.
As for Anders my point was , he was also a lone crusader.Yes some mage faction were openly rebelling , but they were minor enough for the Chantry to ignore it.Anders forced everyone hand , it's not about him being justified or not .He also went full "pariah" (apostate) and I don't think , for now , most circle mages sees him as a hero.(at least in asunder ).
And yeah it's cool Dorian is taking a stand , but as far as I can tell , he's fighting all alone in the name of a whole country.
I hope his expectations are pretty low , because he's going to end up pretty sour.
Well, the qunari inquisitor isn't of the Qun, so it's possible they might not care or have very different feelings towards the Tevinter/Qunari war than a qunari of the Qun would have. As for a Dalish elf? I don't know, it depends how racist towards humans you personally would like to play your elf. I would hope any elf, racist or not, though, would understand that Dorian wishes to change his country for the better. Which might mean the abolishment of slavery.
(Unless you're also playing a Dlaish elf who is racist against city elves, then they definitely wouldn't care and would likely just want to see Tevinter burn.)
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