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[Dirgegun]

 It means Dorian is part of the Tevinter elite.

They are descendant of the original dreamers^^

And they are usualy magisters or very important people.

They also have been killed when the cult of Andraste became popular , non mages had more power for a while but they rise up the rank again in Tevinter after a while.

 

Thank you!

 

And how interesting! This makes Dorian's story even more intriguing. Hopefully his wanting to save his country means properly redeeming it, as his character has been sold to us, and not returning to those old 'glory' days. I don't personally believe that's a fear, though. He's earned the title of Redeemer for a reason.

[Reznore57]

Well, the qunari inquisitor isn't of the Qun, so it's possible they might not care or have very different feelings towards the Tevinter/Qunari war than a qunari of the Qun would have. As for a Dalish elf? I don't know, it depends how racist towards humans you personally would like to play your elf. I would hope any elf, racist or not, though, would understand that Dorian wishes to change his country for the better. Which might mean the abolishment of slavery. 

 

(Unless you're also playing a Dlaish elf who is racist against city elves, then they definitely wouldn't care and would likely just want to see Tevinter burn.)

 

Well you can agree with the idea of him wanting to improve his country whatever races you play.

It is a noble goal, afterall.

But how many people think Tevinter is worth saving?

[Dirgegun]

Well you can agree with the idea of him wanting to improve his country whatever races you play.

It is a noble goal, afterall.

But how many people think Tevinter is worth saving?

 

Depends on the kind of character you play, I think? Also a rather sensitive subject. I personally don't believe any country is unsalvageable, because there will always be good people who exist in a country who wish for better, even if the government and military itself are corrupt and unsalvageable. 

 

Look at any country. I'd wager every single one has a terrible and bloody history or some period of time where a government was horribly corrupt. And my Inquistors will likely be ready to help Dorian with that argument. 

[Elite Banana]

But how many people think Tevinter is worth saving?

 

Not many I imagine, given the amount of atrocities associated with its people. In addition to their proclivity for slavery, their people were supposedly the ones who triggered the Blight no? 

[Reznore57]

Depends on the kind of character you play, I think? Also a rather sensitive subject. I personally don't believe any country is unsalvageable, because there will always be good people who exist in a country who wish for better, even if the government and military itself are corrupt and unsalvageable. 

 

Look at any country. I'd wager every single one has a terrible and bloody history or some period of time where a government was horribly corrupt. 

 

Oh sure it depends on the type of character you play.But it's still a decadent magocracy.

A mage character can be interested by the idea of magocracy.Dalish are also ruled by mages (but the Dalish ain't fond of humans anyway) etc...

 

But from your average human living in Thedas , Tevinter and magocracy = a dark time of slavery and the Dark city and the Blight.

The Tevinter Empire mistakes still have consequences on the world.

That's why I assume most people are not going to take Dorian and his crusade seriously.

[Reznore57]

Not many I imagine, given the amount of atrocities associated with its people. In addition to their proclivity for slavery, their people were supposedly the ones who triggered the Blight no? 

 

Yes actually the magisters going to the Golden city and getting tainted were Altus mages.

Poor Dorian...

[Dirgegun]

Oh sure it depends on the type of character you play.But it's still a decadent magocracy.

A mage character can be interested by the idea of magocracy.Dalish are also ruled by mages (but the Dalish ain't fond of humans anyway) etc...

 

But from your average human living in Thedas , Tevinter and magocracy = a dark time of slavery and the Dark city and the Blight.

The Tevinter Empire mistakes still have consequences on the world.

That's why I assume most people are not going to take Dorian and his crusade seriously.

 

Oh, for sure! And I imagine (and hope) that will come up during his personal character arc. It will add an intriguing flavour, I think. 

[Elite Banana]

But from your average human living in Thedas , Tevinter and magocracy = a dark time of slavery and the Dark city and the Blight.

The Tevinter Empire mistakes still have consequences on the world.

That's why I assume most people are not going to take Dorian and his crusade seriously.

 

And then he'd go all angsty and the inquisitor can comfort him among other totally benign activities.

[Dirgegun]

Yes actually the magisters going to the Golden city and getting tainted were Altus mages.

Poor Dorian...

 

I'm curious to know the story the Chantry doesn't tell. After all Corypheus says the city was already black when they arrived.

[Reznore57]

I'm curious to know the story the Chantry doesn't tell. After all Corypheus says the city was already black when they arrived.

 

Me too...my biggest hope , is those magisters weren't just jerks looking for power.

But they discovered some problems and somebody send them to the Golden city , telling them there was the solution there.

Because Corypheus says he was looking for the light.

There's a lot of talk of darkness in the lore , but it seems related to the taint.

Thing is in theory when the magisters went there , there was no Blight or darkspawn in Thedas yet.

[Elite Banana]

I'm curious to know the story the Chantry doesn't tell. After all Corypheus says the city was already black when they arrived.

 

It makes me wonder... Do we have other sources regarding the matter other than what is told by the Chantry?

[Dirgegun]

It makes me wonder... Do we have other sources regarding the matter other than what is told by the Chantry?

 

Not that we know of yet, I don't believe. There's what the Chantry tells and what Corypheus hinted at, other than that there's a big ol' 'don't know' stamped on the issue.

[Hellion Rex]

Apparently Dorian is an Altus, not a Magister, according to Lady Insanity's interview with David Gaider. D:

Umm...you can be both lol.

The Altus would be the best of the best and strongest of the Magisters.

[Reznore57]

Umm...you can be both lol.

The Altus would be the best of the best and strongest of the Magisters.

 

Dorian is not a magister , though , just heard that in D Gaider interview.

[Hellion Rex]

Dorian is not a magister , though , just heard that in D Gaider interview.

Wait, didn't his blurb say he was a magister though? I haven't had time to listen to the interview yet.

[Reznore57]

Wait, didn't his blurb say he was a magister though? I haven't had time to listen to the interview yet.

 

It doesn't seem to be the case..?

He's part of the nobility and could be a magister.But it seems he's not.Wonder what the hell he was doing in Tevinter , I mean being a mage noble isn't a job?

[jtav]

So who wants to make a human rogue for Dorian so they can be brilliant idealistic aristocrats slightly blind to their own privilege?

[Dirgegun]

So who wants to make a human rogue for Dorian so they can be brilliant idealistic aristocrats slightly blind to their own privilege?

 

Me. For one playthrough anyway. 

[mlgumm]

Maybe he's no longer a magister because he rebelled? He could have lost the title through his actions. Alternately, he could have never gotten the title. It's passed down generation to generation, right? Maybe by the time he was old enough to receive it his parents looked at his politics and were like, "LOL, nope." Then he probably has a sibling who's a magister instead. Idk quite how it works, but I could see many possible reasons why he's not a magister despite being an Atlus.

[Hellion Rex]

Dirgegun just brought this up - what if Dorian wasn't the exiled magister that Mae spoke of? What if it was Alexius? That'd fit nicely with resurrecting Felix.

At this point, I'd say it's more likely that Alexius was the exiled magister, not Dorian.

[jtav]

I thought magister was a specific term, a member of the ruling body? If Dorian could be a member of the Magisterium, he could advocate for change that way. It's possible the person he would inherit the seat from passed him over for his views or is still alive.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Lots of talk about Dorian @16-17th minute mark.

If you have the time listen to all of it, very interesting interview.

[Lukas Trevelyan]

Basically, according to David Gaider, Dorian is not a magister. He's a class that's qualified to be one, but he isn't.
 

[Reznore57]

I thought magister was a specific term, a member of the ruling body? If Dorian could be a member of the Magisterium, he could advocate for change that way. It's possible the person he would inherit the seat from passed him over for his views or is still alive.

 

Yes magisters are ruling Tevinter...I have a feeling Dorian wouldn't take the job even if he could.

[jtav]

Now I'm imagining Dorian as one of those rich kids who take part in peace protests and the Occupy movement. The parents tolerate it because it's just youthful idealism  and rebellion, and who really wants to threaten their own future money and power? Only Dorian does mean it. And of course, you'll do everything you can to keep power away from him.