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[Trophonius]

...until you go into the eluvian with her

Oh, I meant to say there was no happy ending with her, in the base game at least. That option had to come in the form of a DLC.

[Reznore57]

Me playing Dragon Age ...suddenly feeling like there's some strange curse going on:

 

Alistair : Listen I'm going to be king and I need to dump you , you're a mage.( and I'm also going to sacrifice myself in front of you later , because still i love you)

 

Five years later...

 

Dorian : Listen I'm going to be a Magister and I need to dump you , you're an elf .Back in Tevinter I'm going to fight slavery in your honor.And probably going to get myself killed. But remember everything I do...I do it for you. *Bryan Adams song starts*

 

 

(on a side note you can have a happy ending with Zevran , Alistair , Morrigan and Fenris.If you don't think about the taint and the fact that Warden and Hawke have gone poof...)

[Dr. Doctor]

I don't really get the vibe that Dorian is going to dump the Inquisitor for being an elf/dwarf/Qunari/non-mage, he doesn't really seem to care much about what others think of him if he's willing to be called an outcast for his beliefs.

I'm curious to learn more about Dorian's family, if they're descended from the original Dreamers does that mean that Dorian shares their power? Does he have any siblings?

[Reznore57]

I don't really get the vibe that Dorian is going to dump the Inquisitor for being an elf/dwarf/Qunari/non-mage, he doesn't really seem to care much about what others think of him if he's willing to be called an outcast for his beliefs.

I'm curious to learn more about Dorian's family, if they're descended from the original Dreamers does that mean that Dorian shares their power? Does he have any siblings?

 

I was mostly  joking because if there's a worst possible scenario for a romance ,I somehow manage to get it in DA games.(My LIs died during my first  playthrough of DAO/.DA2)

 

But I think at one point Dorian will have to make a choice about Tevinter.I don't think he has turn the page on his country , and it's not like he can go somewhere else and have the same lifestyle .

We shall see.

 

About dreamers they are really rare now , so I doubt all Altus are dreamers.

[carlo angelo]

Dorian would probably run into some pretty hard-hitting disappointments, like... reforming the Tevinter Imperium is next to impossible. He'll have to choose between probably royally screwing up his countrymen or going back to the life he had always known as an outcast without much damage to the Imperium. Ooh, dilemma... there's got to be more to him than just that, though...

 

I'm pretty keen on those quieter moments when he lets spill some pretty dark secrets of his. Those parts of the story are things that I like.

[Chrys]

Yeah, I didn't count Morrigan as tragic because you could go with her or at least talk more in the DLC and there was no death or obligatory discord.

 

Wait, guys, let me see if I got this: in ME you have to aim and shoot in real time, unless you're a special class with powers?

[Eveangaline]

I don't really get the vibe that Dorian is going to dump the Inquisitor for being an elf/dwarf/Qunari/non-mage, he doesn't really seem to care much about what others think of him if he's willing to be called an outcast for his beliefs.

I'm curious to learn more about Dorian's family, if they're descended from the original Dreamers does that mean that Dorian shares their power? Does he have any siblings?

 

It'd be interesting if he had siblings (not ones willing to betray him for power, since we already had that story with Varric). Maybe a non-mage sibling who surprisingly isn't bitter about not being born as a mage.

[outatime]

Yeah, I didn't count Morrigan as tragic because you could go with her or at least talk more in the DLC and there was no death or obligatory discord.

 

Wait, guys, let me see if I got this: in ME you have to aim and shoot in real time, unless you're a special class with powers?

 

No, even with either of the biotics classes, you still need to aim in real time, however, it doesn't matter so much if your aim is a little off, because certain biotics will bend and home in on your targets. (It's actually really helpful, because if you aim right, you can hit guys in cover, going over or around the corner to hit them.) However, the cooldown time is so short - if you keep your load light, you can keep it to less than 2 seconds for most of them - you can pretty much use the powers exclusively, taking advantage of their homing abilities instead of shooting. Even on the Insanity, I rarely needed to use my gun, because I could use the ability Energy Drain on shields, and the biotics - especially biotic explosions - could tear through armor and unarmored enemies. The only difficulty was in enemies with barriers, but you can make sure your squad can deal with that mostly. Like I said, on the lower difficulties, I rarely ever used my guns, because I'm not the best when it comes to aiming. But if you do want to try shooting, for the sniper rifle at least, there is a gun mod you pick up in game that slows down time to make enemies easier to hit.

[Chrys]

@outatime: Thank you for the detailed reply. I wonder how I'll fare when I get to play it eventually... but it doesn't sound good.

 

Damn, Bioware, there are reasons I don't play shooters.

[outatime]

Here! This is a video of a guy using only biotics on the hardest difficulty setting. You can see how the biotics home in on the targets. He's not showing anything exciting at the moment, but it just shows that you don't need to use the guns hardly ever.

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=SgW_gP_ru64

[Hellion Rex]

OK,  we are way off topic, people. Let's rein it in.

[outatime]

@outatime: Thank you for the detailed reply. I wonder how I'll fare when I get to play it eventually... but it doesn't sound good.

 

Damn, Bioware, there are reasons I don't play shooters.

 

Actually, I suppose I was a little wrong. There is a way to pause during combat - when you open your power menu - and you can change the camera to look around the field and kind of aim that way. It's just... slow and tedious. And not necessarily practical since the enemies move as soon as you unpause, but it'll generally get you close enough for the biotics to home in.

[outatime]

Sorry, Eluvianus Ixius Rex! (I hope  I spelled that right!)

 

Anyway, back to the topic of Dorian and his family, if he does have siblings, do you think he'd be the older or younger brother? I could see him being a younger brother. And how do you think they'd get along?

[Trophonius]

Dorian would probably run into some pretty hard-hitting disappointments, like... reforming the Tevinter Imperium is next to impossible. He'll have to choose between probably royally screwing up his countrymen or going back to the life he had always known as an outcast without much damage to the Imperium. Ooh, dilemma... there's got to be more to him than just that, though...

It's entirely possible that Dorian will have to face the stinging reality waiting for him back home. I just think that even if his plans for Tevinter never materialize, his presence is still very important on the grand scheme of things. He seems to exemplify the 'good' side of Tevinter and might be able to use his high ranking status to galvanize others into action. It obviously won't turn the Imperium upside down overnight, but at the very least, speaking against the corruption rampant in his country could be enough to spark interest and get people talking.

And I definitely agree with the notion that there's going to be more to him than what we know so far.

Anyway, back to the topic of Dorian and his family, if he does have siblings, do you think he'd be the older or younger brother? I could see him being a younger brother. And how do you think they'd get along?

He comes from an affluent and influential family that follows the tradition of breeding perfect mages; it's probably likely he has a few siblings. I don't know if he's the youngest or the oldest though. He generally strikes me as one of our younger companions. As for whether or not they'd get along, well, I can see sibling rivalry possibly happening if he was going to be considered the pride of his family before he left.

[Dr. Doctor]

I'd guess that if he did have siblings (and they had magic) Dorian would be the eldest. The whole "heir to one of the Altus families" thing or even being the second son might explain why the Pavus clan isn't exactly happy with who Dorian is.

[Hellion Rex]

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[Ninjasplaycardgames2]

I thought Dorian was trying to fix the Imperium specifically because their customs are bs so why would he care what race his quizzi LI is?

[Chrys]

I don't see any reason for him to be race-gated but we have very little info. Also, we were told he doesn't think everything about Tevinter is bad.

[Sixsmith]

I want Dragon Age: Inquisiton to make me cry like Mass Effect 3 did. But not in relation to the Dorian romance. Maybe tears of joy, in regards to that. >_>

 

Anyway, just getting caught up and wanted to put my two cents in the form of a sentence: I honestly don't think David Gaider would make a tragic romance between the Inquisitor and Dorian because of the poor representation in the first place and I feel like he has great distaste for the 'Bury Your Gay' trope, but that's my opinion/speculation and is in no way a fact—I don't assume to know him, so it's just a guess.

 

Back on topic, though.

 

 

I don't see any reason for him to be race-gated but we have very little info. Also, we were told he doesn't think everything about Tevinter is bad.

 

'Tis true. I don't think Dorian would be fond of slavery, and it's obvious he hates the customs tied to Tevinter politics and society from what's been given so far. I also think he approves of the magocracy as an idea, for the government (just without all the corruption). Kind of like certain political practices (just to avoid starting a wild fire). It works on paper, but it's been shown not to work in practice. I don't think he quite understands that, though.

 

I wonder which companions would butt heads, though. Everyone seems very diverse in their ideas and that could possibly ruffle some feathers. Incoming Varric the Mediator!

 

"Calm down, you guys; you're giving Bianca a headache."

[Chrys]

I've just realized that after romancing Dorian my canon will have endgame romances with all classes 

[Trophonius]

I wonder which companions would butt heads, though. Everyone seems very diverse in their ideas and that could possibly ruffle some feathers. Incoming Varric the Mediator!
 
"Calm down, you guys; you're giving Bianca a headache."

We know Dorian is going to have an 'explosive' relationship with Vivienne and that his relationship with Iron Bull will be 'interesting'. It's going to be fun trying to pry his thoughts about the other companions out of him. Kind of like Alistair's gossiping in camp (his comments about Morrigan were my favorite).

Fingers crossed there's a chance that we will finally hear some Dorian and Vivienne banter on tomorrow's gameplay clip.

[carlo angelo]

Anyway, back to the topic of Dorian and his family, if he does have siblings, do you think he'd be the older or younger brother? I could see him being a younger brother. And how do you think they'd get along?

 

He comes from an affluent and influential family that follows the tradition of breeding perfect mages; it's probably likely he has a few siblings. I don't know if he's the youngest or the oldest though. He generally strikes me as one of our younger companions. As for whether or not they'd get along, well, I can see sibling rivalry possibly happening if he was going to be considered the pride of his family before he left.

 

I'd have pegged Dorian to be the eldest, considering how profound the pressure to be this "perfect mage" would have on him. Being first born and being heir to a family fortune, the need to continue the family legacy, especially through him, would be an even greater deal than if he was one of the youngest in the family.

 

If he did have any younger brothers and or sisters, it would be nice to see a sibling he's striving to protect and nurture, probably because said sibling isn't gifted with magic and is pretty low on the pecking order. And if that's the case, Dorian could see the injustice in his own family, and not just to himself.

 

But, I'm just making stuff up. Though, it would be nice to see Dorian as this kindly soul in contrast to his other facets of his personality. Not only that, but he'll be one of the more "saner" LIs we'd have for a male player-character (Fenris was really angsty, Anders had a lot of issues, and Zevran was just... Zevran).

 

 

It's entirely possible that Dorian will have to face the stinging reality waiting for him back home. I just think that even if his plans for Tevinter never materialize, his presence is still very important on the grand scheme of things. He seems to exemplify the 'good' side of Tevinter and might be able to use his high ranking status to galvanize others into action. It obviously won't turn the Imperium upside down overnight, but at the very least, speaking against the corruption rampant in his country could be enough to spark interest and get people talking.

And I definitely agree with the notion that there's going to be more to him than what we know so far.

 

I could imagine the Inquisitor who romanced him going through some pretty heavy moments with Dorian should they part- Dorian to Tevinter because he's hellbent on reforming the nation, the Inquisitor because his place is with the Inquisition. Then they both swear they'll be back together as soon as Dorian had finished what he set out to do. Then the Inquisitor threatens Dorian to stay alive or the world will crumble and it'll be all his fault...

 

You know, I think I could deal with this ending, though.

 

 

I've just realized that after romancing Dorian my canon will have endgame romances with all classes 

I'm going to retry playing Origins again, and I probably will romance Zevran that time around. So...

 

Warden (male, elf, mage) and Zevran (rogue)

Hawke (male, mage) and Fenris (warrior)

Inquisitor (male, elf, mage) and Dorian (mage)

 

That would also be true on my end (as soon as I finish retrying this playthrough).

[outatime]

I'd have pegged Dorian to be the eldest, considering how profound the pressure to be this "perfect mage" would have on him. Being first born and being heir to a family fortune, the need to continue the family legacy, especially through him, would be an even greater deal than if he was one of the youngest in the family.

 

If he did have any younger brothers and or sisters, it would be nice to see a sibling he's striving to protect and nurture, probably because said sibling isn't gifted with magic and is pretty low on the pecking order. And if that's the case, Dorian could see the injustice in his own family, and not just to himself.

 

But, I'm just making stuff up. Though, it would be nice to see Dorian as this kindly soul in contrast to his other facets of his personality. Not only that, but he'll be one of the more "saner" LIs we'd have for a male player-character (Fenris was really angsty, Anders had a lot of issues, and Zevran was just... Zevran).

 

 

 

I could imagine the Inquisitor who romanced him going through some pretty heavy moments with Dorian should they part- Dorian to Tevinter because he's hellbent on reforming the nation, the Inquisitor because his place is with the Inquisition. Then they both swear they'll be back together as soon as Dorian had finished what he set out to do. Then the Inquisitor threatens Dorian to stay alive or the world will crumble and it'll be all his fault...

 

You know, I think I could deal with this ending, though.

 

 

I'm going to retry playing Origins again, and I probably will romance Zevran that time around. So...

 

Warden (male, elf, mage) and Zevran (rogue)

Hawke (male, mage) and Fenris (warrior)

Inquisitor (male, elf, mage) and Dorian (mage)

 

That would also be true on my end (as soon as I finish retrying this playthrough).

 

Your idea makes sense. I hadn't even thought of it that way. I was mostly thinking of the (semi-stereotypical) rebellious younger sibling, especially since that seems to largely sum up his position in Tevinter, since he seems to be a bit younger than a number of the magisters we've seen in previous games. Still, I do like your idea of him having a younger sibling that he looks out for. I want to say that'd be a good personal quest for him, but since they did that with Miranda in ME2 and, to some extent, ME3, I doubt we'd get that.

 

Do we know if Tevinter places any sort of importance on gender? Because if it's similar to a lot of ancient cultures, Dorian could still be one of the younger siblings and still be the "pride" of the family and have all the pressure on him, if his older siblings were females. It might actually make it worse if he was the only boy. He'd be the one pressured to carry on the family legacy. But I don't know. Does anyone know if it's that way, or if magical ability is the only thing that really matters?

 

But your ending... Man, I could see that happening. I like it. Not necessarily a happy, walk of into the sunset type of ending, but hopeful. Plus, you can come up with whatever headcanon you want for what happens after that, be it happy or sad. I love those kinds of endings.

 

 

I've just realized that after romancing Dorian my canon will have endgame romances with all classes 

 

Same here!

 

My male human warden romanced Zevran (rogue). My male mage Hawke romanced Fenris (warrior). And my male mage Inquisitor will romance Dorian (mage). Hmmm... I think this also means all of my romances will have been written by David Gaider, if I'm not mistaken...

[Dr. Doctor]

Tevinter seems to be a pseudo-meritocracy. Basically, the more magical power you have the "better" you are. Maevrais is a Magister and head of her house, and Hadriana in DA2 was a Magister's apprentice so gender doesn't seem to matter.

Maybe Dorian isn't the eldest in his family but just the one with the most talent?

[ElitePinecone]

Tevinter seems to be a pseudo-meritocracy. Basically, the more magical power you have the "better" you are. Maevrais is a Magister and head of her house, and Hadriana in DA2 was a Magister's apprentice so gender doesn't seem to matter.

Maybe Dorian isn't the eldest in his family but just the one with the most talent?

 

I have a gut feeling he's the eldest, just because from a storytelling perspective it makes the pressure on him seem much greater. Maybe the eldest children inherit power and wealth, too, which would make him a more desirable political match in that case.

 

(Even if Tevinter is gender-blind, there's surely some sort of cultural nuance wrapped up in being the eldest son of a powerful magical family that would make his rejection of an arranged marriage more powerful.)