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[Sixsmith]

Since the party is apparently going to tease the LI romancing the Inquisitor I wonder how Vivienne will respond?

Vivienne: For Maker's sake, get a room Pavus.

Dorian: You disapprove?

Vivienne: I'm Orlesian, Darling. Your little eccentricity is nothing compared to the antics the nobility indulges in.

Dorian: Why my dear Vivienne, to think that there might be something akin to compassion in that cold iron lump you call a heart. It simply boggles the mind.

Vivienne: Please, if the Inquisitor's affections keep you from chattering away like a drunken scullery maid then I should consider myself lucky.

 

So, are you David Gaider in disguise, or something?

 

You spyin' on us?! Trying to get a feel for what everyone thinks of your glorious hunk of man meat?!

[Lulupab]

Apparently both Cassandra and Leliana have problems with Dorian. I'm going to bichslap both of them.

[GenericEnemy]

I just hope the rivalries our companions have are for the most part more Isabela/Aveline in magnitude and less Anders/Fenris.

 

I felt like I was dragging two angry children around for the latter. 

[A Clever Name]

Apparently both Cassandra and Leliana have problems with Dorian. I'm going to bichslap both of them.

Wait, when did they say that?  If true, that makes me sadface.  

 

I just hope the rivalries our companions have are for the most part more Isabela/Aveline in magnitude and less Anders/Fenris.

 

I felt like I was dragging two angry children around for the latter. 

This.  Party banter in DAII was exhausting if you wanted a balanced team.

 

Although I am a bit sad that in my first playthrough I won't be able to experience the rivalry between Dorian and Vivienne in its sheer glory.  Anything compared to Statler and Waldorf has be life changing.

[Lulupab]

Wait, when did they say that? If true, that makes me sadface.

Its not exactly confirmed but Leliana actually tells Dorian to shut up in a showed scene and Cassandra is just grumpy when talking to him. That was my guess that they are going to have problems with him. Leliana has become quite the mage hater and Cassandra is just being a seeker.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Its not exactly confirmed but Leliana actually tells Dorian to shut up in a showed scene and Cassandra is just grumpy when talking to him. That was my guess that they are going to have problems with him. Leliana has become quite the mage hater and Cassandra is just being a seeker.

Considering the circumstances, I can't blame Leliana for being angry at mages, especially Tevinter mages, during that scene. 

 

And I never heard that Cassandra and Dorian would have issues. 

[ElitePinecone]

Its not exactly confirmed but Leliana actually tells Dorian to shut up in a showed scene and Cassandra is just grumpy when talking to him. That was my guess that they are going to have problems with him. Leliana has become quite the mage hater and Cassandra is just being a seeker.

 

When did Cassandra talk to Dorian? o_O

[Chrys]

I just hope the rivalries our companions have are for the most part more Isabela/Aveline in magnitude and less Anders/Fenris.

 

I felt like I was dragging two angry children around for the latter. 

 

I've read people say that several times but while I found Anders/Fenris tiring I couldn't stand the Aveline/Isabela. I end up having to keep them separate.

 

Which other companion rivalries have they hinted about?

[vaire]

 

This.  Party banter in DAII was exhausting if you wanted a balanced team.

 

Although I am a bit sad that in my first playthrough I won't be able to experience the rivalry between Dorian and Vivienne in its sheer glory.  Anything compared to Statler and Waldorf has be life changing.

 

 

While I agree on the fact that the party banter became extremely acidic and 'unpleasant' in the final act of Dragon Age II I must also admit that most of the worst barb was between Anders, a character I love but who had mostly lost it by that point, Fenris, an extremely prejudiced character and Merril, who had just caused the death of her mentor. 

In the rest of the game the party banter seemed to me pretty funny and the barb between Aveline and Isabela didn't seem too mean spirited to me, mainly because Isabela never showed any sign of suffering from being called a woman of loose morals; Aveline even defendede Isabela once when someone called her the pejorative of courtesan.

 

Yet, I agree on the fact that while some tension is pleasant and results in hilarious party banter having companions who constantly try to hurt and demean each other is awful (Fenris and Anders were insufferable on the last act). I do not have much hope about Leliana's attitude concerning mages, especially mages coming from Tevinter, since she is basically a female Michelotto Corella (her two weapons are surprise and fear... and an almost fanatical devotion to the White Divine), but I sincerely hope Cassandra will either keep having very good reasons for distrusting Dorian or gradually warm up to him as time goes by since I'm not keen on the "strong women must be unpleasant" sterotype.

 

Anyway does anyone think Dorian could be an undercover Tevinter agent? I hope he won't, still there is the possibility. 

[DeityDi]

Anyway does anyone think Dorian could be an undercover Tevinter agent? I hope he won't, still there is the possibility. 

 

 

Doesn't seems so. And I hope it won't be that predictable and boring, really. 

[BloodKaiden]

Doesn't seems so. And I hope it won't be that predictable and boring, really. 

So true, I doubt Dorian will betray me though even if he is. I plan on making my Inquisitor too irresistible for him.

[outatime]

Since the party is apparently going to tease the LI romancing the Inquisitor I wonder how Vivienne will respond?

Vivienne: For Maker's sake, get a room Pavus.

Dorian: You disapprove?

Vivienne: I'm Orlesian, Darling. Your little eccentricity is nothing compared to the antics the nobility indulges in.

Dorian: Why my dear Vivienne, to think that there might be something akin to compassion in that cold iron lump you call a heart. It simply boggles the mind.

Vivienne: Please, if the Inquisitor's affections keep you from chattering away like a drunken scullery maid then I should consider myself lucky.

 

I love this!!

 

But wait, what? When did they say anything about the party teasing the LI? Don't toy with me like this! Because I didn't know how much I wanted this - as long as it's not mean-spirited - until now!

[DeityDi]

So true, I doubt Dorian will betray me though even if he is. I plan on making my Inquisitor too irresistible for him. 

 

Well, that didn't stop Anders... just sayin'.

[Chewin]

I just hope the rivalries our companions have are for the most part more Isabela/Aveline in magnitude and less Anders/Fenris.

 

I felt like I was dragging two angry children around for the latter. 

 

I'm hoping for neither. Disagreements are ok, but if they can't behave in a professional manner that instead results in name calling, that won't due.

[Milan92]

I'm hoping for neither. Disagreements are ok, but if they can't behave in a professional manner that instead results in name calling, that won't due.

 

Agreed. We aren't some merry band of mistfits like Hawke & co. We are the Inquisition!

[GenericEnemy]

I've read people say that several times but while I found Anders/Fenris tiring I couldn't stand the Aveline/Isabela. I end up having to keep them separate.

 

Which other companion rivalries have they hinted about?

 

thing about Aveline/Isabela is though, you could tell every now and again that they didn't really hate eachother, they just give eachother a hard time, like two bickering sisters who simultaneously care about and despise eachother. Take Aveline's massive rivalry gain if you sell out Isabela, ("Nobody kicks her ass but me!") or the one scene where you walk into Aveline's office to find them actually having a friendly discussion.

 

Anders and Fenris meanwhile were pretty much at eachother's throats for real. 

[BloodKaiden]

Well, that didn't stop Anders... just sayin'.

Meh, I could argue that wasn't really a betrayal, at least for me. He took full responsibility for his actions and let no blame come to me. Anders was dealing with a lot of crap though. Kirkwall in itself was corrupt imo. I believe Dorian will be a little more...stable so to speak with his issues.

[Dr. Doctor]

I kind of get the impression that Leliana was angry with Dorian because she'd just been tortured by the Venatori and he's trying to deflect his own fears by yammering away.

The guy has Tony Stark syndrome, he snarks constantly. Usually it's endearing, occasionally it isn't. Maybe they're will be a "shut up kiss" option for Inquisitors romancing him?

[Lulupab]

Well, that didn't stop Anders... just sayin'.

A 100% friend Anders will tell you he has done something horrible but he does not want Hawke connected to it in anyway (before actually doing it). You have to be 100% and chose the star dialogue "don't you trust me?" for this scene to occur. So in a sense its not betrayal if you are friends or proper lovers. If you trust him he will trust you as well. Hence a rival Anders tells you the truth in a way too, he says "there is no one in Kirkwall I wouldn't kill to see these mages free". There is no backstabbing or betrayal, he was planning it all along and was honest about it, he just had plot armor.

[DeityDi]

Meh, I could argue that wasn't really a betrayal, at least for me. He took full responsibility for his actions and let no blame come to me. Anders was dealing with a lot of crap though. Kirkwall in itself was corrupt imo. I believe Dorian will be a little more...stable so to speak with his issues.

Well, he didn't say anything either. Or worse, he said he won't do it and did anyway. Not to mention his lies all along.  And in the end everyone though it was Hawke's fault,either way. So yes, he used Hawke and no one likes being used. 

It's not that I disagree with you or Anders - but as Hawke said, it's his actions I question, not his intention. 

 

As for Dorian - it also my hopes. I kinda got tired of unstable mages that have some grand plans, I hope at least this time that grand plan won't be so f-up. He doesn't look like Morrigan or Anders so far, but still it feels like there will be something.

 

There is no backstabbing or betrayal,

 

Tsk, not for us, no. But keeping such secrets that will affect not only him can't be considered anything but. The thing is, even if you support him, he doesn't want to let you know (like "or worse, what if you wanted to help?"). Wtf? It's not up for him to decide and yet. He asks you to trust him, but he doesn't trust Hawke in the end. He even thinks you won't let him live. He himself doesn't have confidence in his friend at all.

[Lulupab]

He seems like Awakening Anders type, albeit with the Tevinter touch.

[Green Snivy]

"Which other companion rivalries have they hinted about?"

 

Varric is not a fan of Cassandra due to his interrogation, though they are still metioned as traveling together.

 

After DA2 Varric was said to have a gruge against the qunari and that would include Bull, but maybe it might be one sided.

 

Sera and Vivienne Don't think much of Cole given that they respectively refer to him as "it" and think " he should be safely banished".

 

Bull was said to have no real issue with Cole and thinks he just needs to have drinks and sleep with someone.

 

Solas and Cole are said to get along.

 

I just hope that Cole can be his own person and not be like Merrill

[BloodKaiden]

-Snip-

 

The impression I got from romancing Anders is that he didn't want you involved with what he was about to do because of the backlash it would have on the world. That was his intention in my gameplay, to not let me know so I wouldn't be the person they blamed for it. The Seekers believed it was Hawke fault before talking to Varric because they didn't know the full story. At the end of the day unless people were there and directly involved they could only go off rumors and hearsay rather than what actually happened. I don't consider this Anders using me. I was the one who decided to distract the Grand Cleric, that was a decision I made when he asked me to do so. 

 

Would I have rather known the full plan or that this wasn't about separating Justice? Of course, but people keep things from those they love or are trying to protect all the time. You don't have to like it, but in their mind they were coming from a good place.

 

Can't agree on the Morrigan side because her and Bethany were apostates that had their **** together. But yeah, I understand why Anders was unstable and after years of dealing with the same crap in Kirkwall I understand why he did what he did. Tbh, I was relieved he did something instead of just whining about it constantly. Both him and fenris pushed me to my limits with their issues.

 

Dorian looks perfect though, can't wait to play the game and have him with me. I wish I could have an apostate background though...the Circle can get bent for all I care.

[AresKeith]

Its not exactly confirmed but Leliana actually tells Dorian to shut up in a showed scene and Cassandra is just grumpy when talking to him. That was my guess that they are going to have problems with him. Leliana has become quite the mage hater and Cassandra is just being a seeker.

There hasn't been any indication that Cassandra will have problems with Dorian, she probably won't trust him at first which is understandable

And Leliana's case is also understandable

[Vaticinator]

 

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