At the same time though, he was clearly shocked and maybe appalled at Alexius' raising Felix from the dead, which sort of implies that their necromancy magic never extended to dealing with recently-dead people.
I think it's more like raising undead and interacting with spirits, rather than the squickier stuff.
Yeah I don't think he's going all Quentin on us.
I don't know now that it looks like m/m relationships are getting shorted again.
I can understand the disappointment, but I don't think this is true. There are currently two options for m/m romance, which is precisely the same number that everyone except straight female elves has.
There's another LI to be revealed, of course, but they could be any sexuality and with all kinds of crazy race-gating. The only situation whereby gay characters would have fewer options than everybody else is if Vivienne turns out to be bisexual and ungated. Otherwise, we get two options just like somebody else - either straight men or gay women are going to end up with two, in that scenario. Depending on the gating situation, it could be even weirder.
Dragon Age: Inquisition already has more m/m romances than KoTOR, ME1, ME2 and Origins, and the same number as ME3 and DA2.
...Tarantino?
I can understand the disappointment, but I don't think this is true. There are currently two options for m/m romance, which is precisely the same number that everyone except straight female elves has.
There's another LI to be revealed, of course, but they could be any sexuality and with all kinds of crazy race-gating. The only situation whereby gay characters would have fewer options than everybody else is if Vivienne turns out to be bisexual and ungated. Otherwise, we get two options just like somebody else - either straight men or gay women are going to end up with two, in that scenario. Depending on the gating situation, it could be even weirder.
Dragon Age: Inquisition already has more m/m romances than KoTOR, ME1, ME2 and Origins, and the same number as ME3 and DA2.
I didn't say we would get less options than everyone else, but I doubt we'll get as many as most others. If Blackwall is bi, then that's great for us and sad for straight men/lesbians. But I am looking to say the smart bets are on us and lesbians getting shorted again.
I can understand the disappointment, but I don't think this is true. There are currently two options for m/m romance, which is precisely the same number that everyone except straight female elves has.
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Dragon Age: Inquisition already has more m/m romances than KoTOR, ME1, ME2 and Origins, and the same number as ME3 and DA2.
I didn't say we would get less options than everyone else, but I doubt we'll get as many as most others. If Blackwall is bi, then that's great for us and sad for straight men/lesbians. But I am looking to say the smart bets are on us and lesbians getting shorted again.
I don't want to say we shouldn't wish for more m/m options, but I am still very grateful for the effort they put in to provide even a measure of equality in this regard. If you think about it, games like Dragon Age and Mass Effect featuring m/m romances are quite groundbreaking in a way - sci-fi or fantasy epics with a gay protagonist? To see something like that in a blockbuster movie might still take a few more years.
I remember when I played DAO for the first time I was already out to my family and friends, but it was still thrilling to be able to express that part of myself through something else that I enjoyed - i.e. gaming. We're all used to engaging with heteronormative content, and hopefully through games like this, people can get over the idea that romancing Dorian, for example, is a "gay romance". It's just a romance. And hopefully one day those distinctions won't be important anymore.
Again sorry for making anyone uncomfortable I was having a conversation with my other friends who want to play the game and romance him , they were genuinely curious because I'm so happy that I am actually being represented in the game that is all
I think the only way we felt uncomfortable about that conversation was uncomfortably excited 
EDIT: Does it count as being on topic if I keep putting this mustache pic on my posts: 
What they have done and are doing is good and they deserve praise for it, but I think it's also important to point out that there's progress left to be made. Bioware is better than average for representation of gays, but their representation of gay men could absolutely be better. Only two Bioware games have had two m/m LIs, three with Inquisition. There have rarely been any gay men as non-LI characters and fairly few in the books, as well, none really in major roles. Gay men have pretty consistently gotten the fewest or tied for fewest amount of options, overall. We should acknowledge that Bioware is trying and I am thankful for that, which is why I'll buy their games and have been buying them. I'm giving them my support, but I'm also going to acknowledge where they could do better.
I wonder why Dorian (who is apparently our resident necromancer) has only used elemental magic in the videos released thus far? I'm so dying to see what kind of MAYHEMMMMM...the new specialization will unlock. (sorry I stole your line Iron Bull, it can't be helped!)
They probably have held back the specialization abilities as much as they can, as I myself have only seen a Templar power and Reaver abilities being used up until now.
I didn't say we would get less options than everyone else, but I doubt we'll get as many as most others. If Blackwall is bi, then that's great for us and sad for straight men/lesbians. But I am looking to say the smart bets are on us and lesbians getting shorted again.
If at the end of the day, straight men get less options than others, I don't see it as myself getting "shorted". Some people will have more options, but I don't then look at that and think that I've had something taken away from me.
At the same time though, he was clearly shocked and maybe appalled at Alexius' raising Felix from the dead, which sort of implies that their necromancy magic never extended to dealing with recently-dead people.
I think it's more like raising undead and interacting with spirits, rather than the squickier stuff.
Indeed. Alexius clearly pulled a Quentin in that regard, resurrecting a soul and rebinding it to a body. Or, perhaps Felix was on the cusp of death, and Alexius's necromancy is all that is keeping the poor guy alive, leaving him in a state of half-life.
They probably have held back the specialization abilities as much as they can, as I myself have only seen a Templar power and Reaver abilities being used up until now.
What they have done and are doing is good and they deserve praise for it, but I think it's also important to point out that there's progress left to be made. Bioware is better than average for representation of gays, but their representation of gay men could absolutely be better. Only two Bioware games have had two m/m LIs, three with Inquisition. There have rarely been any gay men as non-LI characters and fairly few in the books, as well, none really in major roles. Gay men have pretty consistently gotten the fewest or tied for fewest amount of options, overall. We should acknowledge that Bioware is trying and I am thankful for that, which is why I'll buy their games and have been buying them. I'm giving them my support, but I'm also going to acknowledge where they could do better.
If at the end of the day, straight men get less options than others, I don't see it as myself getting "shorted". Some people will have more options, but I don't then look at that and think that I've had something taken away from me.
True, progress doesn't come from only acknowledging what is done right, but I also agree with TheJediSaint that, even just with Dorian and IB as m/m options, I don't feel slighted. But anyway. I hope I didn't come across as dismissive of your perspective, which wasn't my intent.
But back to our regular scheduled programming I guess, before we get reminders of being off topic again.
Honestly, just read the last few pages of the romance thread if you want a wider view of my perspective. It's a compound thing. I think daveliam's post of the numbers and the direct replies explain why getting less again stings. That's all I'm going to add here at the moment, because it would be better if people spoke about it over there and some very good points are being made about it right now in the issue's dedicated thread.
Dorian looks like the best LI from what I've seen so far. I'm a female gamer who prefers to play female characters, but I'll probably play a male character just to experience his romance. That Redcliffe gameplay trailer definitely made me fall for him. His VA did an amazing job and there's so much potential for a deep relationship. It's refreshing to finally have a Tevinter character on our team. He seems charming and funny but still with a lot of depth to his story.
The power of the 'stache compels you.
I can understand the disappointment, but I don't think this is true. There are currently two options for m/m romance, which is precisely the same number that everyone except straight female elves has.
There's another LI to be revealed, of course, but they could be any sexuality and with all kinds of crazy race-gating. The only situation whereby gay characters would have fewer options than everybody else is if Vivienne turns out to be bisexual and ungated. Otherwise, we get two options just like somebody else - either straight men or gay women are going to end up with two, in that scenario. Depending on the gating situation, it could be even weirder.
Dragon Age: Inquisition already has more m/m romances than KoTOR, ME1, ME2 and Origins, and the same number as ME3 and DA2.
Very true, and least this time, I won't have to choose which one I hated the least. I mean, in ME3, it was either between a man suffering from Carth syndrome or a cute but sadly dull guy who may or may not have survived the events of the first game, even though I liked them either way. But DA2, I just... if I had to choose between the two dudes I hated the least, it would be Fenris. Sure, at times he pissed me off, but in the end, I understood it would take a while for someone suffering from severe trauma to recover. Anders though, in the end, took a different route with his trauma and became something abominable. Well, here's hoping we enjoy the characterization of the two male li's we homos get this time around. 
#ridethebull #twirlthestache
I hope I didn't come across as dismissive of your perspective, which wasn't my intent.
But I wanted to add that you didn't seem dismissive. Your point was fair and very civil.
Dorian's mustache does make me hopeful for the CC's facial hair options. Same with Blackwall's beard.
Honestly, just read the last few pages of the romance thread if you want a wider view of my perspective. It's a compound thing. I think daveliam's post of the numbers and the direct replies explain why getting less again stings. That's all I'm going to add here at the moment, because it would be better if people spoke about it over there and some very good points are being made about it right now in the issue's dedicated thread.
I can't see how we're getting fewer options, though.
Everyone has two at the moment, except for straight female elves who have three.
Until that changes, I see absolutely no reason to be disappointed. I think your assumption that they're deliberately denying options to gay players is a bit premature, at the very least.
Unless Blackwall is gay, we're getting fewer options than another group. I don't think that's likely, but I'll absolutely admit I was wrong, if that turns out to be true. Although, I definitely wouldn't say I was necessarily getting the short end of the stick to nearly the same extent if he was bi, either. I do expect Vivienne strongly and I'm doubtful she'll be available to lesbians, but obviously I don't know it will happen for absolute certain and it could be Blackwall. I doubt he would be another straight option, so if it's him, then I admit that my statements are strong for the situation.
I can't see how we're getting fewer options, though.
Everyone has two at the moment, except for straight female elves who have three.
Until that changes, I see absolutely no reason to be disappointed. I think your assumption that they're deliberately denying options to gay players is a bit premature, at the very least.
Being the voice of reason in the storm is an admirable trait.
Anyway, back on topic: @Eluvianus Rex I suppose they are trying to keep the specializations under wrap, but I'm not sure why. You'd think if they really want to move on from character spoilers and romance talk like they sometimes say, they would give us something new to talk about. 
He's intelligent, charming, dashing, handsome, etc...
He certainly is. Art by Skrullslover: http://skrullslover....t-so-puppy-face
The only reason I hold slight hope for Blackwall is because I always wanted a human warrior as a gay option. "The knight in shining armor" if you want to be dramatic. It would frankly be the first I've seen in a game.
To be honest though, Dorian is enough. He's intelligent, charming, dashing, handsome, etc...
It's enough.
Iron Bull will be cool for my Qunari characters.
Regardless of Blackwall's LI status (or lack thereof), I still think we got lucky with Dorian. He's the most interesting companion to me and has the best combination of qualities in a character.
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