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[Nocte ad Mortem]

And I vehemently disagree too. It makes me wonder if people initially perceived Anders to be gay when they met him in Awakening since him and Dorian seem pretty similar in terms of looks and personality. From all the footage we've seen so far, nothing suggests that Dorian is going to be a screaming stereotype. It's like people are very adamant to portray him as such despite the lack of evidence and it vexes me to no end.

Well, I did see one post that suggested being a mage alone was a point towards flamboyance, so maybe they did. 

[Chrys]

I remember a post ages ago by David that said they weren't doing a persistent personality this time.

 

No idea where to find the link though.

 

Thank you. And it's okay - if you trust your memory, so will I.

 

About the religion thing, I'm curious as well. I think he's probably Andrastian though saying Maker is not a firm indicator. But he might not be a Black Chantry supporter...

 

Also, I ran out of likes for the first time ever. Trophonius got my last one - you deserve it, person with excellent taste in avatars.

[Allazor]

Thank you. And it's okay - if you trust your memory, so will I.

 

About the religion thing, I'm curious as well. I think he's probably Andrastian though saying Maker is not a firm indicator. But he might not be a Black Chantry supporter...

 

Also, I ran out of likes for the first time ever. Trophonius got my last one - you deserve it, person with excellent taste in avatars.

 

For me he can belive whatever he wants, i romanced Leliana , he can't be more crazy then her so i think we are ok. If he belives in the Maker , i hope when he sees my Inq naked for the first time he will say : " OH My Maker this is .." and Inq will go " The word you are searching for is HUGE !!!! " . Sorry for the dick joke

[Lucy Glitter]

Lmao, Allazor.

 

 

Well, I did see one post that suggested being a mage alone was a point towards flamboyance, so maybe they did. 

Why would being a mage point towards being stereotypically gay? Explain that to me. That seems like a negative and incorrect stereotype.

[Trophonius]

Well, I did see one post that suggested being a mage alone was a point towards flamboyance, so maybe they did.

Oh ffs, they're just pulling a load of bull out of nowhere now. I'd like for them to take one good look at Aurelian Titus and see if they can say the same about him.

Also, I ran out of likes for the first time ever. Trophonius got my last one - you deserve it, person with excellent taste in avatars.

I've only ever experienced this yesterday, but that was mainly due to this thread. So many brilliant people with highly engaging things to say. And thank you for the compliment. Michael Fassbender (and Sir Ian McKellen) nailed the Magneto character perfectly.

[feainn]

LOL this thread really is full of NSFW conversations. But I can't exactly blame anyone. We're all desperate for the D...










orian.

On a serious note, seeing as the GameInformer article mentions that our companions will make themselves at home in their own way, what/where/how do you think Dorian will make his own space? The only thing we know is that he owns a leather chair.

I'm p sure our crew will move around and interact with one another(???) but Idk, I'd really like to walk into D-dog's space and see him doing mage-y things. Not necessarily raising the dead or anything but maybe making potions, practicing some spells etc.

[Willowhugger]

He seems more dashing and roguish than "gay."

But I've noticed that certain segments of the male populace in video gamers have very narrow definitions of what constitutes manly. Their version of men seems to be limited to "growly straight brown-haired white men in the their late twenties to mid-thirties." I like this character often enough (see Adam Jensen) but it's also a tired and "safe" formula that result in characters like Aiden Pierce.

 

Characters who aren't actually characters so much as holes to fill.

Even when they're white, they're expected to behave in a certain manner which is familiar and "safe" to Americans.

 

It's sort of the Zevran situation to me. People say Zevran is effeminate when, aside from the fact he sleeps with men, he fits several parts of the world's idea of over-the-top macho. It's lucky he didn't drive a race-car.

[Lee80]

I'm not discouraging anyone from talking about Dorian religion with this, but mainly just to express how different people see different things: I find talk of religion as disturbing as the prudish find the sex talk.  Maybe it's cause I live in the South and hear ignorant people talk about how all gays are going to hell, etc.  Meh...  Either way, carry on!     

[Willowhugger]

I'm not discouraging anyone from talking about Dorian religion with this, but mainly just to express how different people see different things: I find talk of religion as disturbing as the prudish find the sex talk.  Maybe it's cause I live in the South and hear ignorant people talk about how all gays are going to hell, etc.  Meh...  Either way, carry on!     

 

I, too, live in the Bible Belt and am a Liberal Christian who had his Presbyterian Church picketed (!!) by people who disliked our acceptance policy towards homosexuals.

 

However, I'd be pleasantly surprised to find out that Dorian is a believer in the Tevinter version of the Chant. I get the impression Dorian is sort of meant to be, "Tevinter as it should be." Tevinter from the comics appears to be in a weird hybrid of Constantinople and the Renaissance, all very much above the rest of Thedas in terms of technology like the Qunari (but achieved by magic rather than science). It's a very advanced society with a high standard of living. It's just it's also got an appalling human rights record. There's a lot of good in Tevinter, most likely, but we don't see it because we only see the dark side.

 

I'm thinking Dorian is the sort of guy who might show what Tevinter could be like if they let go of slavery and became the society Andraste's follower the Archon meant it to be. Being a worshiper of the Black Divine would be interesting and fit with the idea the game is partially about faith and what people believe in.

[DeityDi]

There's a lot of good in Tevinter, most likely, but we don't see it because we only see the dark side.

We don't really see it. In fact, even Fenris says that magisters are doing those "horrible things" behind the closed doors. Though he says conflicting things sometimes after all.

 

So we can't really know for sure how bad it is. Well, bad enough of course, but it's not like Orlais for instance very different in the terms of "rights".

[Vaticinator]

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I also don't think the discussions on here have been much more than idle fantasy. When that turns into an obsessive reality you probably have a problem, but I guess the (perceived?) boundaries for that differ from person to person. E.g. I overheard a fairly lengthy conversation about Ryan Gosling's "endowment" the other day that made me feel quite uncomfortable, but I guess the unattainable is prime material for fantasy precisely because of its abstraction from reality. The same with fictional characters like Dorian.
 
And I like fanart (and art) in general, and I've been reposting the fanart I find indiscriminately - which included links to some of the more NSFW ones that Lucy mentioned, but I'd rather leave those out of the thread if it will make people feel uncomfortable.

 

Well, I did see one post that suggested being a mage alone was a point towards flamboyance

Also, this is ridiculous.

[feainn]

 
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[Willowhugger]

We don't really see it. In fact, even Fenris says that magisters are doing those "horrible things" behind the closed doors. Though he says conflicting things sometimes after all.

 

So we can't really know for sure how bad it is. Well, bad enough of course, but it's not like Orlais for instance very different in the terms of "rights".

Well, it's behind closed doors in Tevinter but our only exposure to Tevinter so far is the slaver from the Elven Alienage and Danarius plus Fenris' horror stories.

There's Mae from the comics but that's the only positive Tevinter depiction we've seen.

Unless you count Fenris as a Tevinter citizen and he, most certainly, would not.

[ElitePinecone]

I'm thinking Dorian is the sort of guy who might show what Tevinter could be like if they let go of slavery and became the society Andraste's follower the Archon meant it to be. Being a worshiper of the Black Divine would be interesting and fit with the idea the game is partially about faith and what people believe in.

 

We haven't really seen much about the ways that the Imperial Chantry differs from the southern one, either, apart from having a male clergy. It's been mentioned that Tevinter's Chant has been modified in some way to allow for a magocracy, and I'd like to explore how Dorian reconciles his use of magic with what the other Chantry says. 

 

There's a lot of cool stuff about apocryphal Chant of Light verses, which seems to be a big focus of Inquisition regardless.

 

(And now that I say that, I realise that woah the Byzantine references really aren't subtle.)

 

World of Thedas didn't give any indication that Tevinter's Chantry would have an issue with his sexuality, so I could quite easily see Dorian being a devout Andrastrian. Like you said, it's another perspective on faith that we haven't seen in the game before.

[Willowhugger]

World of Thedas didn't give any indication that Tevinter's Chantry would have an issue with his sexuality, so I could quite easily see Dorian being a devout Andrastrian. Like you said, it's another perspective on faith that we haven't seen in the game before.

 

I get the impression that homosexuality is frowned upon because it's a rigidly conformist society with a strong emphasis on magical bloodlines. Which is better and worse than it being "sinful" in certain ways. Dorian being openly homosexual is showing his contempt for the entire social order.

 

Though it's far from the only thing about him which does, I'd wager.

 

He could have, like Danarius, had sex with slaves or affairs as long as they were discreet but considers such hypocrisy part of the problem, I think. Which is a cool angle on it.

 

And yeah, it'd be nice to get Tevinter views on religion. I intend to take Dorian with me when we confront Corypheus (assuming he's in the game). It'd be interesting to get an Andrastrians view on an Old Tevinter magister.

[Reznore57]

And yeah, it'd be nice to get Tevinter views on religion. I intend to take Dorian with me when we confront Corypheus (assuming he's in the game). It'd be interesting to get an Andrastrians view on an Old Tevinter magister.

 

Is it wrong of me but I'm sort of thrilled about having that Old God baby (I hate the OGB) just to see if I can have Morrigan and Dorian having a talk about the Old Gods.

 

I suppose Dorian isn't really fond of them , but he may be open minded about the whole thing and curious (I know I am!)

And yeah if Cory is around ...

 

So much potential !

[ElitePinecone]

Oh yeah, we know that society (especially noble society) disapproves because it's conformist, and because any sign of deviation from the norm makes young mages less attractive as political marriage partners.

 

But I don't think we've seen the Tevinter Chantry itself say anything about homosexuality, and I doubt they would.

[Willowhugger]

Is it wrong of me but I'm sort of thrilled about having that Old God baby (I hate the OGB) just to see if I can have Morrigan and Dorian having a talk about the Old Gods.

 

I suppose Dorian isn't really fond of them , but he may be open minded about the whole thing and curious (I know I am!)

And yeah if Cory is around ...

 

So much potential !

 

I was kind of creeped out you could pray to Dumat and get his blessing.

Despite Dumat being dead for millennium.

[Willowhugger]

Oh yeah, we know that society (especially noble society) disapproves because it's conformist, and because any sign of deviation from the norm makes young mages less attractive as political marriage partners.

 

But I don't think we've seen the Tevinter Chantry itself say anything about homosexuality, and I doubt they would.

 

Yeah, like Battlestar Galactica and Caprica, they went with the idea that homosexuality wasn't taboo because being such was an arbitrary thing that didn't have to happen on their world and didn't.

Same in Thedas.

[themageguy]

Hello everyone.

i need some advice. As Dorian will be my first gay love interest, which of these planned inquisitors do you think would suit such a dashing mage?

#1. Human rogue. Archer. Quite possibly Artificer or Tempest spec. Will look like a sort of Robin Hood type, with a smart goatee.

#2. Dwarven Rogue. Dual daggers. Assassin or Artificer spec. Will either have a beard or stubble and long hair.

#3. Dwarven warrior. Champion or Templar. Proud beard with a sword and shield.

I wanted to avoid being a mage as i want to see his reactions with Vivienne and solas and Cole.

thanks guys ;D

[outatime]

Hello everyone.

i need some advice. As Dorian will be my first gay love interest, which of these planned inquisitors do you think would suit such a dashing mage?

#1. Human rogue. Archer. Quite possibly Artificer or Tempest spec. Will look like a sort of Robin Hood type, with a smart goatee.

#2. Dwarven Rogue. Dual daggers. Assassin or Artificer spec. Will either have a beard or stubble and long hair.

#3. Dwarven warrior. Champion or Templar. Proud beard with a sword and shield.

I wanted to avoid being a mage as i want to see his reactions with Vivienne and solas and Cole.

thanks guys ;D

 

Hmm... I know I'm partial to humans, and personally, I think the background for the human noble is interesting. So I'd personally suggest the human rogue. If not that, then a dwarf rogue. (I may also be partial to rogues.)

 

First time through with me, I'll be rolling a human mage though, partially because I loved playing as a mage in DA2, but also because I hope there might be some extra dialogue if they're both mages. But a human rogue playthough probably won't be too far behind. 

[themageguy]

Hmm... I know I'm partial to humans, and personally, I think the background for the human noble is interesting. So I'd personally suggest the human rogue. If not that, then a dwarf rogue. (I may also be partial to rogues.)

First time through with me, I'll be rolling a human mage though, partially because I loved playing as a mage in DA2, but also because I hope there might be some extra dialogue if they're both mages. But a human rogue playthough probably won't be too far behind.

Thanks for the reply. I really really like the human and dwarven backgrounds. Im even going to make a Templar due to the humans relations with the order and the chantry.

Hmmm interesting point regarding a mage inquisitor.....maybe i should flip a coin. Or make the dwarf a dashing goatee wearing archer lol.

[ElitePinecone]

Hello everyone.

i need some advice. As Dorian will be my first gay love interest, which of these planned inquisitors do you think would suit such a dashing mage?

 

I would go with the human rogue too.

 

I like the idea that a human from a noble background (especially a Trevelyan) will have some inkling of what it means to be pressured into things by their family. Also archers are cool.

[Lulupab]

Also if Dorian is following Imperial Chantry then he shouldn't feel any guilt or something because they believe it was the old gods' fault that the darkspawn exist, not the mages. I tend to agree with them in this, just because some puppets who happened to be mages followed the old gods it does not justify blaming all mages or Tevinter for it.

[Hellion Rex]

In the E3 video he mentioned the Maker and Andraste casually a few times, I think.

("Maker's Breath, Alexius, what have you done?")

Well, both sides venerate Andraste and the Maker. It's just that the Imperials don't think she was divine, just a mere prophet.