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#12851
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Because gay people love nothing more than to shower with members of the same sex for the sole purpose of collecting masturbatory fantasies about their friends and colleagues.

Yes, funny.

Yup. Funny :D   The world is a pleasant place when you realize its all a giant joke  ;)



#12852
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I laughed at the comic, for a bunch of reasons. First it seemed in keeping with Sera and Dorian's personalities. Second, it seemed to be poking fun at the bathhouse thing that always happens in animes. Third I usually get offended at intent rather than the actual material, if the material is fueled by ignorance I tend towards exasperated but there's enough other things at play here that I don't ascribe it fully to that category. It was meant to be a casual funny and I'm taking it as such.

 

Though Iron Bull probably got to ogle too. #BiBenefit 321: you rarely lack for eyecandy.


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#12853
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Unfunny comic is unfunny.  Offensive comic is offensive.  I'm not sure if it's actually offensive, but it certainly isn't funny (or original).  I'm all for a good naughty joke, that just doesn't happen to be one of them. 



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Unfunny comic is unfunny.  Offensive comic is offensive.  I'm not sure if it's actually offensive, but it certainly isn't funny (or original).  I'm all for a good naughty joke, that just doesn't happen to be one of them. 

 

I imagine humor is kinda subjective, unless you wanna tell a bunch of people they're doing funny 'wrong.'



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I imagine humor is kinda subjective, unless you wanna tell a bunch of people they're doing funny 'wrong.'

Nope, just giving my opinion on the matter.



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Let's not be too hasty now. It's just one of those things that could be taken the wrong way because of certain stereotypical cliches found in a lot of non-heterosexual characters, many of whom were poorly written out of, well, ignorance, for lack of a better word. It's not something many people seem to be aware of and I'm sure that comic isn't meant to cause any offence.

 

Anyway, since the writers are pretty damn serious with characterisation, it's certain that Dorian (and Sera) won't be the "pesky homosexual cliche" who hits on or ogles over heterosexual men/women. I mean, I actually don't see that happening, to be perfectly honest. Dorian's just more concerned with righting wrongs in his homeland and seeking personal freedom to live his life how he sees fit.


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#12857
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Anyway, since the writers are pretty damn serious with characterisation, it's certain that Dorian (and Sera) won't be the "pesky homosexual cliche" who hits on or ogles over heterosexual men/women. I mean, I actually don't see that happening, to be perfectly honest. Dorian's just more concerned with righting wrongs in his homeland and seeking personal freedom to live his life how he sees fit.

 

Funny, I always saw Dorian as exactly the kind of guy who'd teasingly flirt with a straight guy just to make him uncomfortable. And, at least in my mind, that in no way conflicts with him wanting to change the injustices that plague his homeland.


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carlo angelo

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Funny, I always saw Dorian as exactly the kind of guy who'd teasingly flirt with a straight guy just to make him uncomfortable. And, at least in my mind, that in no way conflicts with him wanting to change the injustices that plague his homeland.

True, it doesn't rule that out. But for me, it comes off as this "predatory gay" cliche-gag that I see done a fair bit in film, television, and novels, even if it is just for laughs. One reason why Dorian doesn't come across that way to me.


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I'm sorry. I understand why you have your opinions on that stereotype and I agree with them. You don't have to find it funny and I understand why. At the same time, I think you're overreacting to that comic.

 

The comic never implied that Dorian and Sera did anything more than ogle at their companions. They just had a good time, that's all. I don't think simply liking what you see counts as sexual predatory.



#12860
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If you're referring to me, my explaining why a certain part of a comic, which invokes a stereotypical characteristic a lot of writers nowadays are trying to eschew from queer characters, wasn't meant to come across as overreacting. I wouldn't be the type to say "I don't like it because it's offensive", but merely stating why I thought the humour seemed kind of "off" for a couple of us. I did say that comic's intentions wasn't meant to offend and that it was just innocent amusement... just with a few shades of some unfortunate implications.

Anyway, moving on.

Apparently one of the devs said something about Dorian being the youngest of the companions, save Cole (yes even younger than Sera) I haven't the source of this info and what I could find is in tumblr and they're totally 'reliable'.

Still find this bogus since he just looks and sounds like he's in his thirties.
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If you're referring to me, my explaining why a certain part of a comic, which invokes a stereotypical characteristic a lot of writers nowadays are trying to eschew from queer characters, wasn't meant to come across as overreacting. I wouldn't be the type to say "I don't like it because it's offensive", but merely stating why I thought the humour seemed kind of "off" for a couple of us. I did say that comic's intentions wasn't meant to offend and that it was just innocent amusement... just with a few shades of some unfortunate implications.

 

I know, I wasn't addressing to you specifically. :) Yes, I understand why some people may not find it funny. However, I personally find it funny because I didn't and will not associate the little comic with the whole stereotype issue.



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TOO LATE. IT HAS ALREADY CONSUMED ME!!!

Seriously.  I was already looking forward to the game; now Dorian has raised my anticipation to absurd heights.  Even my wife keeps asking when my new boyfriend will arrive (she has always referred to Kaidan in Mass Effect as my boyfriend).  


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Apparently one of the devs said something about Dorian being the youngest of the companions, save Cole (yes even younger than Sera) I haven't the source of this info and what I could find is in tumblr and they're totally 'reliable'.
Still find this bogus since he just looks and sounds like he's in his thirties.


I've tried searching in the twitter thread and websites, but I haven't found evidence to support this either. Dorian seems to be safely in his late 20's to early 30's to me and at least one of our younger companions.

On another note, Mike said in the twitch livestream that we likely start the game with Cassandra, Varric, and Solas (they were level 3). I wonder if that means Dorian will be the second earliest recruitable mage.
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#12864
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I understand where you're coming from, and no disrespect to the artist behind it, but the reasons you stated are why the joke's supposedly lost on me. I mean, I get that it's done in jest, but... it's not exactly my kind of humour either.

At least it wasn't as bad as the puns from yesterday.  While I agree with you on the comic, those bothered me more.



#12865
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There was that Aimo comic where the (female) Inquisitor and female companions were ogling while watching the male companions bathe. I am curious, is that also considered offensive?



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Can we all agree that while humor is subjective, we are all here to objectify...er, celebrate Dorian? This is the only thread I feel safe coming to, hoping that anyone with the good sense to appreciate Dorian would also be sensible enough to not post any spoilers.  If we are going to focus on negatives during these last 6 weeks, I will have no safe haven on the BSN.  For the love of all that is holy, focus on what is important - The 'Stache!!!!

 

Hugs and thanks!  :)


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#12867
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Can we all agree that while humor is subjective, we are all here to objectify...er, celebrate Dorian? This is the only thread I feel safe coming to, hoping that anyone with the good sense to appreciate Dorian would also be sensible enough to not post any spoilers.  If we are going to focus on negatives during these last 6 weeks, I will have no safe haven on the BSN.  For the love of all that is holy, focus on what is important - The 'Stache!!!!

 

Hugs and thanks!  :)

Avoid spoilers, focus on the stache, something something, profit!  I shall do my best!


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#12868
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Can we all agree that while humor is subjective, we are all here to objectify...er, celebrate Dorian? This is the only thread I feel safe coming to, hoping that anyone with the good sense to appreciate Dorian would also be sensible enough to not post any spoilers.  If we are going to focus on negatives during these last 6 weeks, I will have no safe haven on the BSN.  For the love of all that is holy, focus on what is important - The 'Stache!!!!

 

Hugs and thanks!  :)

 

I try to lol but I might offend someone again by posting stuff, so I'm going to refrain from any further objectification ... er, I mean, celebration of Dorian.



#12869
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Focus on the stache and celebrate Dorian, you say? I can do that :)

 

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*goes back to lurking*


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#12870
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So, are y'all gonna go mutual mustaches with Dorian? Stubble, a beard? Completely clean-shaven?!

Inquiring minds want to know.

#12871
Lucy Glitter

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I'm going with some sexy stubble and a goatee. Damn, goatees are sexy.
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Can we all agree that while humor is subjective, we are all here to objectify...er, celebrate Dorian? This is the only thread I feel safe coming to, hoping that anyone with the good sense to appreciate Dorian would also be sensible enough to not post any spoilers.  If we are going to focus on negatives during these last 6 weeks, I will have no safe haven on the BSN.  For the love of all that is holy, focus on what is important - The 'Stache!!!!

 

Hugs and thanks!  :)

 

Wait, we aren't supposed to be objectifying Dorian? Uh... well... good, cause I don't do that, no sireee, not at all.

 

google.com dorian pavus, no-shirt


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#12873
Lucy Glitter

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Hey, that google term actually comes up with a couple of shirtless Dorian!


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#12874
Lieutenant Kurin

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Hey, that google term actually comes up with a couple of shirtless Dorian!

 

No it doesn't...  <_<  :whistle:



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Do we know if Dorian is race-gated at this point? I haven't been keeping up with romance news, and another thread reminded me about how much I'm looking forward to QunquisitorxDorian.