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[Gaesesagai]

I think the hand appears in all romanced companions.

At first I thought the flower was an origami crane. I do remember in a war table successful war table mission Maevaris says something like hopefully Dorian is doing well despite the cold weather and that's he's always been a green house Orchid.

I guess that flower is an orchid?

 

Ooh, an orchid, cool

Just checked several cards... the Inq's hand doesn't appear on all companions... so far I only saw it on Dorian and a gloveless one on Blackwall... But can't find the complete list to check all lol...

[Wanderlust14]

I think the hand appears in all romanced companions.

At first I thought the flower was an origami crane. I do remember in a war table successful war table mission Maevaris says something like hopefully Dorian is doing well despite the cold weather and that's he's always been a green house Orchid.

I guess that flower is an orchid?

Orchids don't look like that flower though (or at least most that I've ever seen). It looks much closer to a lily than a orchid (which is the flower I had assume it was). 

[Steve236]

Yes, when there's no logical argument just use words like "whoring", surely everyone will see you're right.

Anyway, can you stop trolling Dorian's topic please? Send me a private message if you really want to debate* this further.

See I dont know why your getting all butthurt over...well...nothing.

 

I like Dorian in fact i keep him around all the time.  In every game where you can choose your gender i always play as  a female(even  though im a guy).  Dorian wouldve been my first romance option choice. Now if EA have kept their idiotic PR department on a leash, Dorian being gay wouldve come off has a very nice surprise.

 

  Beside a hint or two he doesn't reveal his sexuality off the bat and he actively flirts with my female inquisitor. So what couldve been a fun and nice charcter depth surprise was ruined .  So im not sure why your all going bioware fanboi all over me.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I thought Relenus was a place when I first heard it mentioned - as though it was a memory of what had happened at a particular location. No idea why I thought that.

 

Still, my favourite banter has to be the "wishing but wondering" conversation with Cole; Dorian comes perilously close to being sappy in public. After all the prodding about his father, it was nice to see a subject that Dorian was so happy to discuss, he didn't even object to the mind-reading (and mind-reading his thoughts around the time he was having sex, at that - compare that to his IB romance comments). And Cole comes across as adorably delighted when he sees how happy Dorian is - he even does the Spirit equivalent of a squee at the end!

 

 

 

 

I really liked the fact that Dorian goes out of his way to be friendly, unwittingly (or not?) playing the ambassador for Tevinter. I did cringe whenever he stepped on a landmine with Solas. You can't really predict what will set Solas off the first time through the game - Fenris and Anders were both grumpyguts, but you knew where their berserk buttons were, while Solas (along with Sera) isn't as straightforward. It was interesting that Dorian was changing tactics to try and lighten the mood, switching between joking and genuine intellectual conversation, but every time I head Solas' voice reply, my thought was "oh no, what's he going to get his head bitten off for this time?" 

 

I wonder if Solas and Blackwall have the same problem with Dorian - that he's unashamedly true to himself and upfront about his past, despite a heritage that makes him a default "bad guy", while they're both hiding something terrible while in the role of pure-hearted "good guys"?

 

Although frankly, the Tevinter = slaves thing was never going to help Dori's case.

I think there's a lot of weight in that interpretation. That Dorian being able to escape his baggage so easily is enviable to them. Especially since everyone but Solas and Blackwall is downright friendly with Dorian after speaking to him a couple of times. Even Vivienne seems to genuinely like him despite taking every opportunity to push his buttons.

[Hazegurl]

In my tarot book it says the Chariot means: victory, conquest over difficult odds. The force of destiny which drives one to achieve great things. Travel, renewed optimism and motivation. Be self-reliant and gain success.  The card in reverse is: Being out of control, arrogant and bad temper. Delays and frustration.
 

 

I can see Dorian in all of that. lol!

 

As for the white flowers, it symbolizes innocence and purity. I also think the flowers could be Lilies which can also mean a lot of things. In Ancient Greece it's a symbol of high eroticism, sexuality, passion, hope, renewal, and freedom.

 

I love Dorian even more.

 

Edit: Lilly Picture. It seems to have the same shape and red stems. If not, I'm dying to know what flower it is. I like looking up the meanings and how it could all relate to Dorian's character.

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[(Disgusted noise.)]

See I dont know why your getting all butthurt over...well...nothing.

 

I like Dorian in fact i keep him around all the time.  In every game where you can choose your gender i always play as  a female(even  though im a guy).  Dorian wouldve been my first romance option choice. Now if EA have kept their idiotic PR department on a leash, Dorian being gay wouldve come off has a very nice surprise.

 

  Beside a hint or two he doesn't reveal his sexuality off the bat and he actively flirts with my female inquisitor. So what couldve been a fun and nice charcter depth surprise was ruined .  So im not sure why your all going bioware fanboi all over me.

EA/Bioware didn't push it though, they just said that Dorian is only romancable by a male character (just like they revealed the sexuality for every other companion) and Gaider mentioned in one interview that he was the first gay male playable character from Bioware. Everyone else ran with it and made it a big deal because it's so rare to have a major character in a video game be gay. If Bioware wasn't the odd duck for actually treating LGBT people like they're normal, things like that wouldn't happen. So criticize heteronormative media for creating the situation, not Bioware.

[TheLastArchivist]

His VA sure worked hard and made Dorian the charismatic and well beloved character he is. Love his british polished accent.

His writer did a marvelous job as well, of course. All that sarcasm is irresistible. He may criticize you in front of an audience and you'll still want to kiss him.

Dorian really gets under your skin. 

[TheSimbul]

Ok so I have a quick question now that I've managed to finally beat the game after a second playthrough (the purpose of which was basically romancing Dorian because he is the best).

 

During the celebratory chats at Skyhold, after defeating Coryphish, Dorian says he's decided to go back to Tevinter (eventually, not just yet etc)....and I have seen vids on Youtube where he says he'll stay. So I was wondering, anyone knows how to get him to stay? I'm not sure this is something we'll be able to tinker with in the Keep once the DA:I stuff is accessible and it would kill me to hear how he eventually left my m!inquisitor in future games/content. They are my OTP! (Them and my f!quisitor/CulluWully couple)

 

Help!

 

PS: Kudos to Bioware and Gaider on creating such a compelling, moving and nuanced character. Love love love him.

[Wanderlust14]

Ok so I have a quick question now that I've managed to finally beat the game after a second playthrough (the purpose of which was basically romancing Dorian because he is the best).

 

During the celebratory chats at Skyhold, after defeating Coryphish, Dorian says he's decided to go back to Tevinter (eventually, not just yet etc)....and I have seen vids on Youtube where he says he'll stay. So I was wondering, anyone knows how to get him to stay? I'm not sure this is something we'll be able to tinker with in the Keep once the DA:I stuff is accessible and it would kill me to hear how he eventually left my m!inquisitor in future games/content. They are my OTP! (Them and my f!quisitor/CulluWully couple)

 

Help!

 

PS: Kudos to Bioware and Gaider on creating such a compelling, moving and nuanced character. Love love love him.

Unfortunately, this appears to be a bit buggy, but you should have been able to convince him, when he talks about going back after the temple and you ask him not too (or emotional blackmail as he calls it). It is after you talk to him about it in the main hall that it seems to bug out a bit and then in post game, he will talk about leaving again (but if you don't speak to him in the main hall, in the post game he will talk about not leaving you). 

I think this may be a thing that will have to be fixed in Keep later on. 

[TheSimbul]

Unfortunately, this appears to be a bit buggy, but you should have been able to convince him, when he talks about going back after the temple and you ask him not too (or emotional blackmail as he calls it). It is after you talk to him about it in the main hall that it seems to bug out a bit and then in post game, he will talk about leaving again (but if you don't speak to him in the main hall, in the post game he will talk about not leaving you). 

I think this may be a thing that will have to be fixed in Keep later on. 

Ah...yes, I definitely tried to convince him to stay after our visit to the temple, and he said he'd consider it carefully. That's why I was so shocked to hear his decision to go...if it's a bug then hopefully there will be a chance to fix it (either through a patch or in the Keep). But just in case I foolishly decide to reload a very early save and re-do the game, when you say "talk to him in the main hall", what do you mean exactly? During the celebration dinner or before at some point? I'm replaying a few scenes for enjoyment's sake (ehem) but I'll go se what his post-game chat is about and update everyone.

Cheers!

[Wanderlust14]

Ah...yes, I definitely tried to convince him to stay after our visit to the temple, and he said he'd consider it carefully. That's why I was so shocked to hear his decision to go...if it's a bug then hopefully there will be a chance to fix it (either through a patch or in the Keep). But just in case I foolishly decide to reload a very early save and re-do the game, when you say "talk to him in the main hall", what do you mean exactly? During the celebration dinner or before at some point? I'm replaying a few scenes for enjoyment's sake (ehem) but I'll go se what his post-game chat is about and update everyone.

Cheers!

During the celebration dinner, when you can talk to the companions. It is unfortunate, but Dorian has proven to be a particularly buggy companion. 

[Hazegurl]

See I dont know why your getting all butthurt over...well...nothing.

 

I like Dorian in fact i keep him around all the time.  In every game where you can choose your gender i always play as  a female(even  though im a guy).  Dorian wouldve been my first romance option choice. Now if EA have kept their idiotic PR department on a leash, Dorian being gay wouldve come off has a very nice surprise.

 

  Beside a hint or two he doesn't reveal his sexuality off the bat and he actively flirts with my female inquisitor. So what couldve been a fun and nice charcter depth surprise was ruined .  So im not sure why your all going bioware fanboi all over me.

I think you should have gone into a media blackout. I knew all the romances but for everything else I went into a blackout  so that I could be surprised. Fact remains is that people do want to know the information on the possible LIs so they don't waste 10+ hours on a game only to realize they've been chatting up the wrong person. At least that was my reason.

[Birdy]

I think I'm in love.    Dorian's quest let me use the Murder Knife!

[TheSimbul]

Sadly it seems he's decided to leave....reloading the game from my post-temple save and re doing the last 7+ hours (in January. I will be away from my PS4 til then. Ugh). Hopefully I can avoid the bug the second time around D;

[InstantNoodlez]

What do the snakes in Dorian's cards mean?

[Chrys]

During the celebratory chats at Skyhold, after defeating Coryphish, Dorian says he's decided to go back to Tevinter (eventually, not just yet etc)....and I have seen vids on Youtube where he says he'll stay.

 

Unfortunately, this appears to be a bit buggy, but you should have been able to convince him, when he talks about going back after the temple and you ask him not too (or emotional blackmail as he calls it). It is after you talk to him about it in the main hall that it seems to bug out a bit and then in post game, he will talk about leaving again (but if you don't speak to him in the main hall, in the post game he will talk about not leaving you). 

 

I think you guys are talking about different things. Dorian can say three things at the end when romanced. If you talk to him at the party, he can say (1) being alive and together will have to be enough and that he's decided to stay with the Inquisition. For now. Because there's no you in Tevinter. Or he can say (2) he's decided to leave for Tevinter. Then he says not right away and you go into some banter about not being through with each other. If you don't talk to him there, he says (3) something else I don't recall but no mention of leaving.

 

So it seems Simbul got (2) and Wanderlust is talking about (1) and (3).

[myahele]

Snakes represent magic and their relation to how the mage think about magic

[Felene]

Has anyone try to start Dorian romance with alternative way?

 

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[Soulscythe81]

See I dont know why your getting all butthurt over...well...nothing.

 

I like Dorian in fact i keep him around all the time.  In every game where you can choose your gender i always play as  a female(even  though im a guy).  Dorian wouldve been my first romance option choice. Now if EA have kept their idiotic PR department on a leash, Dorian being gay wouldve come off has a very nice surprise.

 

  Beside a hint or two he doesn't reveal his sexuality off the bat and he actively flirts with my female inquisitor. So what couldve been a fun and nice charcter depth surprise was ruined .  So im not sure why your all going bioware fanboi all over me.

 

I have to agree with you on that part and on Bioware/EA being overzealous with their PR stuff in general. It sucks how they spoil all possible companions and romance options months before the game's release. It's pretty much impossible to avoid being spoiled, if you don't stay away from the internet at all, when a lot of sites put companion names in their news headlines and such. I tried really hard this time, but in the end I knew everything beforehand once again, except about Cole, which was a nice surprise indeed.

 

The surprise factor is so much better, if you don't know anything and a person in game offers to join your party from out of the blue. Or Dorian's reveal about his sexuality would have caught a lot of people off guard for sure.

[Chrys]

If you look at comments on videos and the like, you'll see that a lot of people tried to romance characters that they couldn't and were surprised. Not everyone follows game news.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Considering Dorian offers flirt options in almost every conversation with a male Inquisitor, I think you guys are overestimating the surprise factor. Unless maybe that he's gay rather than bisexual since Female Inquisitor/Dorian is really the only instance where there is a high volume of flirt options for someone who's not interested in you.

[d4eaming]

I did In Your Heart Shall Burn, finally (had to sleep before work) and I think it almost makes more sense having Dorian show up then. He's actively fighting and has an explanation for it, and he can't help you as he's admittedly exhausted from out running the army. His conversation after that almost sounds tailored to that introduction versus meeting during the mage quest (though I miss out on him promising to protect my PC ).

Playing a Dalish First, running into Cole while dealing with the Envy demon underscores my boy's belief that spirits and demons are different, something he already agreed with Solas about, and he instantly recognized Envy for what it was, which is a good contrast to Cole. Then saving Dorian at the gates (because it's clear he wasn't going to last much longer since he was about to collapse) gives his recruitment a little more oomph. Suspecting him of being a spy, and Dorian's "Well, let me help for now and hang me later" attitude is well received.

I dunno, it just definitely *feels* much different for them versus my Dalish hunter stumbling into Redcliff village where he's so out of his element and naive to magic, while my mage chose Templars, believing the mages to be too unstable and powerful to approach.

Yeah, it's all the same in the end, but the flavor is subtly different. Yay for roleplaying? Lol

[Gaesesagai]

In my tarot book it says the Chariot means: victory, conquest over difficult odds. The force of destiny which drives one to achieve great things. Travel, renewed optimism and motivation. Be self-reliant and gain success.  The card in reverse is: Being out of control, arrogant and bad temper. Delays and frustration.
 

 

I can see Dorian in all of that. lol!

 

As for the white flowers, it symbolizes innocence and purity. I also think the flowers could be Lilies which can also mean a lot of things. In Ancient Greece it's a symbol of high eroticism, sexuality, passion, hope, renewal, and freedom.

 

I love Dorian even more.

 

Edit: Lilly Picture. It seems to have the same shape and red stems. If not, I'm dying to know what flower it is. I like looking up the meanings and how it could all relate to Dorian's character.

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Nice. Thanks for info I thought the cards were more or less a small play on the characters and didn't really payed them attention... curious if the others are as layered and clever as Dorian's

[droitdivin]

When is this Remelus mentioned?
 

Knowing what Dorian's card means when romanced makes me wonder about Viv's, with the upside down chalice. 

[Gaesesagai]

When is this Remelus mentioned?
 

Knowing what Dorian's card means when romanced makes me wonder about Viv's, with the upside down chalice. 

 

Cole's banter with Dorian. One of the exchanges has Cole mentioning Relenus.

http://dragonage.wik...ki/Dorian_Pavus