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[Gaesesagai]

The insecurity is mostly understandable and sympathetic, but I suppose you could make a case for Dorian having a bad habit of trying to "push" the Inquisitor into proving his devotion.

 

I'm pretty sure his relationship with the inquisitor is his first serious long term relationship (if I'm wrong someone please correct me ). With that in mind it all falls into place for me. He's constant fears concerning the inq leaving him, or wanting only sex, or getting bored of him, etc. It's a fairly common occurance for a young gay man to experience those type of feelings in his first serious relationship. Especially when there's really crappy baggage like Dorian has (societal rejection, family rejection, being identified as deviant or abnormal and so on - and yes it is a rejection, even though it's worded as "it's ok as long as you hide it").

So yea, I totally get where he's coming from with all that so it doesn't bother me at all. If you are serious about it and get in a relationship with someone like that, it's like a "term of service" you agree to it and to the fact that you'll have to work a bit harder then usual to assure and confort him so he doesn't lose himself in his own head. He's a smart guy, so hopefully he'll be able to understand soon enough that the inq is there to stay (well at least mine is  )

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Out of curiosity, does Dorian have any character flaws whatsoever?

I can't think of any.

Vanity, short temper, insecurity.

 

The arrogance is more of a defense mechanism than genuine.

[Maiafay]

The next scene it would be back to commenting on how people dress or decorate, or complimenting himself, or sashaying past Cassandra while I talk to her with some snark.

I'm probably sure he was correct about feeling "dumber" after reading whatever Varric wrote - since I'm assuming this is the scene you're referring too, and so what? I thought it was funny, since Varric probably wrote the Thedas version of Twilight. Then again, Dorian's snark is one of his best features to me, because I'm just like him in RL. I love snark. Most of his lines make me laugh.

And complimenting himself...again, I point to that blog post I linked on the last page. It's a front. A buffer of sorts, and IMO, masks a potent insecurity issue that is probably made worse by what his father did. Dorian overcompensates for rejection.

Decorating...if you're referring to the Inquisitor's quarters, it's because he's a bundle of nerves after the "deed" and is worried that he'll be blown off - which is possible given the options. As for how people dress....Solas, love him to death, but he does dress like a hobo. Blackwall smells and Dorian isn't the only one who remarks on it.

These are superficial things to dislike, imo. Easily overlooked. Just like I overlook traits in my friends or family that irk me from time to time. Is Dorian arrogant, yes, he can come across that way, and sometimes he means it. But I can overlook that because he tries to do the right thing. His integrity alone more than makes up for his flaws.

[CrabbyCrackers]

did they fix the dorain kiss bug? i kissed him twice with no error today.

[Maiafay]

Yes, I believe they did. I also can kiss him without crashing, lol.

No more Dorian's too sexy for my PS4

[CrabbyCrackers]

well if thats the case i want to hug bioware.

[droitdivin]

I never had that bug!

 

Anyways, can you craft/find Dorian's Skyhold armor for exploring? I like it - but not that much that I let him run around without any armor.

[Wanderlust14]

Yeah, you can make armor in skyhold for any of the companions as long as you have schematics, it is in the undercroft.

[Akrim_Drak]

So, just wanna say that Dorian being an arrogant brat, even as a front for something deeper doesn't actually make him any LESS of an arrogant brat...

I enjoyed the moments when you could see who he really is but my problem with Dorian is that by the end of the game he wasn't exactly any nicer. I told him he should go back to Tevinter(albeit with protection) because dude needs a bit more humble pie. Coryphyspits wasn't quite enough and the elves almost got him there. Just a bit more!

That being said overall I enjoyed his character, as I enjoyed Vivienne even though she was so insufferable. But to think his behavior is somehow excusable just cuz he had a hard life is kinda silly in my opinion.

[Alejandrawrr]

I just completed the Fade with a romanced Dorian and found it very sweet how upset he gets thinking he had lost the inquisitor forever.
 
So what is his biggest fear, namely temptation, about? While he seems ambitious, he doesn't strike me as someone who's particularly power-hungry. He also seems too committed to the relationship to cheat. So what might tempt him?

Loved that as well. Especially after pointing out that he was with Quizzy, but even then he panicked when the Inquisitor was apparently delayed. ****, I need to play through this romance again

It was one of those moments that really made me appreciate Dorian's relationship path, especially since I imagine my loving, diplomatic/"paragon" Inquisitor was getting slightly annoyed at Dorian's occasional tendency to instinctively push him away. The Fade scene, the "he said yes" Cole banter, and a few other things scattered about are reassuring that he really does love the Inquisitor.

 

Out of curiosity, does Dorian have any character flaws whatsoever?

I can't think of any.

None, he's perf tbh. Everyone else but Dorian just needs to learn to accept that fact. Dorian would agree 

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Spoiler

So I just got to the part in Dorian's romance where he comes to your chambers and you can decide to have a love scene then or ask to take it slower. What happens if you choose the option for them to slow down, does the love scene go away or does it come back up later in the story?

[Chrys]

Spoiler

So I just got to the part in Dorian's romance where he comes to your chambers and you can decide to have a love scene then or ask to take it slower. What happens if you choose the option for them to slow down, does the love scene go away or does it come back up later in the story?

 

Spoiler

It goes away. You get a kiss instead.

[Wanderlust14]

It goes away. You only get the naked scene once at that point (it is implied they have sex later on)

[Zarro-Morningstar]

Spoiler

It goes away. You get a kiss instead.

 

 

It goes away. You only get the naked scene once at that point (it is implied they have sex later on)

Okay thanks you guys for the info! I thought that's what happened, but one can never be too sure about how Bioware has their romances play out.

[Bob Walker]

I only got one banter (from Cassandra) alluding to Dorian and Inquisitor's romance. I really would like to see the others, mainly from Cole. Do those banters only happen right after the romance is triggered (and no more afterwards)?

[Maiafay]

I enjoyed the moments when you could see who he really is but my problem with Dorian is that by the end of the game he wasn't exactly any nicer. I told him he should go back to Tevinter(albeit with protection) because dude needs a bit more humble pie. Coryphyspits wasn't quite enough and the elves almost got him there. Just a bit more!

What exactly should he be humble about? Can you explain please? Dorian isn't a Fairbanks from the Emerald Graves, you know. He's not suddenly going to alter his entire personality and heap dust on his head, dress in rags and never say a snarky word to anyone ever again. Like someone said earlier, he is quick to apologize if he offends anyone in the Inquisition. He fumbles about when trying to be nice to Solas or Sera. Hell, even he and Blackwall make nice eventually.

I think he's well on his way to changing his thinking if not doing a 180 already. So again, where does he need to be more humble?

[Reznore57]

Gosh I don't want Dorian to be more humble , it's just too fun to hear him say stuff like "Pfff I'm not a plebeian."

[Wanderlust14]

I only got one banter (from Cassandra) alluding to Dorian and Inquisitor's romance. I really would like to see the others, mainly from Cole. Do those banters only happen right after the romance is triggered (and no more afterwards)?

Nope, I had banter immediately afterwards from Blackwall and almost at the very end of the game from Cass, so it just pops randomly. I know for me, the best place to get a lot of banter was the Hissing Waste, just running from point to point, may be a good place to try and trigger it. 

[Bob Walker]

Thanks for the tips, Wanderlust14.

[Des]

Vanity, short temper, insecurity.

 

The arrogance is more of a defense mechanism than genuine.

 

I wouldn't exactly call his short temper a flaw. Every time he's lost his temper with either of my Inquisitors (elf female and Qunari male romancing him), he has immediately realized it was uncalled for, then apologized. It's not like he flies off the handle or says nasty things and then storms off.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

I wouldn't exactly call his short temper a flaw. Every time he's lost his temper with either of my Inquisitors (elf female and Qunari male romancing him), he has immediately realized it was uncalled for, then apologized. It's not like he flies off the handle or says nasty things and then storms off.

Eh, I appreciate the fact that he's quick to apologize (if he wasn't this would be an absolute deal breaker for me), but I would say his consistent need to lash out at bystanders when he's upset is a definite character flaw.

[Maiafay]

Romancee banter with Cole is random, I think. I'm locked into the romance right now, but Cole and Dorian are just now getting to the "ask me questions" bit of their banter.

You probably should keep bringing Cole and it should trigger eventually.

[Willowhugger]

Out of curiosity, does Dorian have any character flaws whatsoever?

I can't think of any.

 

Dorian is a wonderful example of "check your privilege" in action as he is pretty damn blind to the REASONS people fear and hate Tevinter. He's a heroic and dashing sort, but he's also a spoiled rich nobleman. Some of my favorite Dorian moments is his absolute HORROR at trecking through the wilderness with the Inquisitor.

[Willowhugger]

I can see how you disagree and I have completed the romance and know that there are supposed to be layers to the character. Still, his every day behavior is annoying to me nonetheless and overshadows the 10 minutes of content where he would show another side. The next scene it would be back to commenting on how people dress or decorate, or complimenting himself, or sashaying past Cassandra while I talk to her with some snark.

 

Don't get me wrong, I understand what you're saying.

 

I think the portrayal of gay men in the media kind of warps the narrative a bit as there's nothing really "gay" about Dorian or Zevran's behavior but people try and read gay into it because the media has primed them for clues. I can imagine some fans would have liked characters who don't fit into some stereotypes, even if I think they're overstating the case.

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Pretty high quality mustache-less edit.

 

Spoiler

 

I wasn't a fan of it at first, but now I'm pretty fond of the stache and his face looks so odd to me without it.

 

He looks a lot younger without it, though. More evidence that he's definitely under thirty, in my opinion.