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#16176
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Why couldn't they run out of time with Bull instead?  :angry:

^^Lol. Now Cullen/Dorian i wouldnt mind seeing if you romance neither..... Which would never happen in my PT's. But anyway. Cullen  is sort of squishy. Dorian imo needs squishy every once in awhile even though he mocks you mercilessly for it when you squee at him. I like it. But i hope BioWare dont get too much shyte for it being cut. I was around when Cullen being straight was announced. Dayyyum.



#16177
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Bioware probably would've get more sh*t if it wasn't cut. 

Because there were oh so many people nagging about Anders being "straight" in DAO and how BW retconed his character.



#16178
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Well, for those stressing about the Dorian/Cullen pairing, cut romance dialogue between a male Inquisitor and Cullen has been found and a former Bioware employee has said on twitter the only reason it was cut was that the cinematic designer ran out of time.

WhaaaAAaaaaa!?

 

*Eyes pop out*

C-c-could I have a link? I need to show this to somebody. Oh this'll ruin their day. I'm a terrible friend...



#16179
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Bioware probably would've get more sh*t if it wasn't cut. 

Because there were oh so many people nagging about Anders being "straight" in DAO and how BW retconed his character.

Pfft BioWare will get sh*t no matter what they do. They cant win. I didnt see Awakenings Anders as any set sexuality anyway? I dont know how you can just play DA:A and go "yes. Anders is 100% straighty 180" why because he says something about meeting a nice girl? Lol.



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Pfft BioWare will get sh*t no matter what they do. They cant win. I didnt see Awakenings Anders as any set sexuality anyway? I dont know how you can just play DA:A and go "yes. Anders is 100% straighty 180" why because he says something about meeting a nice girl? Lol.

The fact that he's an incredible womanizer? I mean, it kinda signals "I'm super-duper straight!"



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Things that I think should be side quests:

Dorian: if you find me ten of those silk thingy I could do a dance that really shocks everybody.
Me: WHERE IS THE SIDE QUEST TO FIND THEM GOD DAMNIT!

Dorian: alcohol here sucks, I miss Tevintor wine.
Me: *Open war table mission trying to find operation where you can ask Josiphine to import Tevintor liquors.
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#16182
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The fact that he's an incredible womanizer? I mean, it kinda signals "I'm super-duper straight!"

meh. Maybe i should play it again? I just remember him being flirty and not being tied down. I know gay dudes that act like womanizers. From what i remember Anders doesnt act "super duper straight".



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WhaaaAAaaaaa!?

 

*Eyes pop out*

C-c-could I have a link? I need to show this to somebody. Oh this'll ruin their day. I'm a terrible friend...

 

Sure:

 

http://danaduchy.tum...nd-m-inquisitor

 

http://danaduchy.tum...andras-dialogue

 

The former employee's tweets will take longer because her account is protected so I have to dig up screenshots.

 

Edit: some of her tweets:

 

Spoiler

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#16184
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^

:mellow:

 

Dorian is awesome, though, so this doesn't sting as much as it would have if I found this out pre-release.



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I dont know how you can just play DA:A and go "yes. Anders is 100% straighty 180" why because he says something about meeting a nice girl? Lol.

Cause he only flirts with womeeen. 

The same reason people always believed that Cullen is straight, he only flirted (or whatever he was doing) with fWarden.

I.e. straight if not proven otherwise.



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Cause he only flirts with womeeen. 

The same reason people always believed that Cullen is straight, he only flirted (or whatever he was doing) with fWarden.

I.e. straight if not proven otherwise.

 

Dorian will be the first to tell you that flirting with women means squat.


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#16187
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Cause he only flirts with womeeen. 

The same reason people always believed that Cullen is straight, he only flirted (or whatever he was doing) with fWarden.

I.e. straight if not proven otherwise.

Eh, screw 'em. Straight until proven otherwise is the foundation of heterosexism and I've got no time for that or anyone who wishes to proliferate that.


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#16188
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Cause he only flirts with womeeen. 

The same reason people always believed that Cullen is straight, he only flirted (or whatever he was doing) with fWarden.

I.e. straight if not proven otherwise.

well okay then i stand corrected. Anders is retconned for sure. Cullen should be straight, as he was always straight and it would never make sense if he suddenly fell for a male. There is no way Anders in Awakening could be seen as open to a male. Thank you for clearing it up for me. Allthough im pretty sure it was proven otherwise in DA2 with Anders. But thats right. Retcon


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#16189
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Eh, screw 'em. Straight until proven otherwise is the foundation of heterosexism and I've got no time for that or anyone who wishes to proliferate that.

Which is why it really sad that Cullen romance with the male Quizzy never made it to the final game.

It would've been a nice change.  

 

well okay then i stand corrected. Anders is retconned for sure. 

Except he's not.  :lol:

Because people only see what they want to see. I always though that he's bi because he's banter with Nathaniel was somewhat... funny at times. Especially liked it when Nate asked him about the robes, ahaha.  :lol:


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#16190
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Which is why it really sad that Cullen romance with the male Quizzy never made it to the final game.

It would've been a nice change.  

 

Except he's not.  :lol:

Because people only see what they want to see. I always though that he's bi because he's banter with Nathaniel was somewhat... funny at times.

.... :huh:  but thats what i was saying and you shut me down lol, or were you being sarcastic???. *shrug* internet talk eh



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.... :huh:  but thats what i was saying and you shut me down lol, or were you being sarcastic???. *shrug* internet talk eh

I think he was bringing up what other people would say (and in fact are saying in other places now that the cat is out of the bag), not that he agrees with it.

 

Showing interest in the opposite sex publicly doesn't make you straight. Not showing interest in the same sex publicly also doesn't make you straight. Saying you're only interested in the opposite sex makes you straight.


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#16192
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I think he was bringing up what other people would say (and in fact are saying in other places now that the cat is out of the bag), not that he agrees with it.

 

Showing interesting in the opposite sex publicly doesn't make you straight. Not showing interest in the opposite sex publicly also doesn't make you straight. Saying you're only interested in the opposite sex makes you straight.

danm, im usually good at picking up that sort of thing :lol:  Just goes to show how long my patience would last against idiots talking bollocks, and people trying to tell me how everyone "works". 

This would be why i never venture into tumblr land. I would be eaten alive. :ph34r:



#16193
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Sure:

 

http://danaduchy.tum...nd-m-inquisitor

 

http://danaduchy.tum...andras-dialogue

 

The former employee's tweets will take longer because her account is protected so I have to dig up screenshots.

 

Edit: some of her tweets:

 

Spoiler

Hear that thump? That was me, collapsing, after just waking up and reading this without coffee first :lol:



#16194
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A shame Dorian and Varric didn't mention maevari in their convos since she's a mutual friend of both
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#16195
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Interesting opinion piece on Dorian from a gay writer.

 

http://gaygamer.net/...t-dorian-pavus/


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#16196
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Looking for advice: I want to play a male Inquisitor romancing Dorian in my next playthrough (just wrapped up my first). 

 

Apparently Dorian's romance has a bug. I didn't even get his personal quest in my previous playthrough. Apparently, the quest is needed to initiate romance. How do I assure that I don't miss out? 

 

Please be as non-spoilery as possible, please. ;) 



#16197
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^Just don't talk to him often at haven. I think the bug occurs when you trigger a dialogue at Haven that is meant for Skyhold.  If you want to be extra safe then side with the Templars so that all your dialogue with Dorian is at Skyhold. So far I haven't ran into the bug.


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#16198
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^ Thanks for the advice! I definitely talked to him a lot at Haven, which may explain the bug. 

 

1 more question: If I side with the Templars (tempting, since I sided with mages in my previous playthrough), will I get less interaction with Dorian? Because I really loved my interaction with him during the mission I got when siding with the mages. 



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Aside from not doing the Mage side quest with him I think the overall interactions with him are the same. You can still talk to him about Felix et al. And working for Alexius. He will mention you not aiding him with Alexius though, but I was still able to romance him. If you're asking if he appears in the Templar quest, then no. You'll be dealing with Cole and Ser Barris.


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#16200
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Hm, tough call then. New content vs interaction with future LI. Decisions, decisions. I will have to think about this. 

 

Thanks for answering my questions!