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#16826
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Both have their pluses and minuses. If you've done mages before, I'd say do templars this time, because it also worth it - awesome appearance at Haven, then talk with Cullen and Roderick can make up for it. Also, templars path is kinda cool to boot.

Just know it yields dissaproval (both alliance and disband thingy), but it's not critical to a romance if played wisely. And don't go to Redcliff to "check up on them" first, because this way dissaproval will be even greater.



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Hey I was wondering if people could help me make up my mind.

 

I've gotten back to playing my Dorimance playthrough and am still a few hours away from having to pick Templar or Mage mission. I would like to roll templar with this character but am worried that it might.. lessen... the experience of romancing Dorian since I won't be doing his direct recruitment mission.

 

Has anyone done templar + Dorimance or maybe tried both options? Opinions?

 

My mage went Templars, which is quite suitable, considering the

 

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and it makes a little more sense to meet Cole there and have Dorian show up at the Haven gates. I still got Giselle almost right away, so didn't have any trouble getting the personal quest. I held off on it for a while, to roleplay them being acquaintances first instead of going right away, because he didn't feel he knew him well enough to drag him to the tavern over family matters.

 

So, as far as the romance goes, it's not really an issue and more personal preference.


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#16828
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I had some issue with Dorian based on checking up on him at the Chantry, I talked to him too much at Skyhold before getting his approval up and got the option to boot him, naturally I didn't take it.

 

For rpg reasons, if you still want to check up on the mages before choosing. Then you can still do it but make sure you do Dorian's Venatori quests and war table missions to build up his approval and you should be fine to romance his pants off. lol!



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Okay so essentially never meeting Dorian before he shows up at Haven will get me less disappoval? Good to know. Can I still go and unlock Redcliffe village and just ignore the tavern?

 

What about the Tranquil agent that stands inside the Tavern, is he still available after doing the Templar mission?



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Okay so essentially never meeting Dorian before he shows up at Haven will get me less disappoval? Good to know. Can I still go and unlock Redcliffe village and just ignore the tavern?

 

What about the Tranquil agent that stands inside the Tavern, is he still available after doing the Templar mission?

I think you can still unlock Redcliffe, but I doubt the Tranquil will still be there after the Templar mission (but maybe, I haven't tried yet, it just doesn't seem likely). I wouldn't worry too much about that, though, there are a ton of agents throughout the game. 



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Okay so essentially never meeting Dorian before he shows up at Haven will get me less disappoval? Good to know. Can I still go and unlock Redcliffe village and just ignore the tavern?

 

What about the Tranquil agent that stands inside the Tavern, is he still available after doing the Templar mission?

 

 You can go all but the rift in the Chantry if you wish to recruit Clemence.  Dorian won't have disapproval because you never met him, but you did meet Félix and it's kinda awkward because he mentions that you didn't meet Félix...lol

 

 I wouldn't bother with even recruiting Clemence if you're going Templars because you'll get Ser Barris as an agent for Champions of the Just.  You can still go unlock Redcliffe before choosing whenever.  It'll open up after the mission too.



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#16833
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Yep, I have a little crush on Felix. He's sweet, intelligent, stands up for his morals, and what little glimpse we got was fascinating.

 

He's also pretty damn attractive and I love his voice, so there's that, too :rolleyes:


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Yep, I have a little crush on Felix. He's sweet, intelligent, stands up for his morals, and what little glimpse we got was fascinating.

 

He's also pretty damn attractive and I love his voice, so there's that, too :rolleyes:

 

Yeeeep.

The quiet nice sexy guy.

When Dorian was like "he was the better man" I was thinking "I know, dude ."


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#16835
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Yep, I have a little crush on Felix. He's sweet, intelligent, stands up for his morals, and what little glimpse we got was fascinating.

 

He's also pretty damn attractive and I love his voice, so there's that, too :rolleyes:

I liked Felix too. I thought he seemed really nice and I wished we got to know more about him. It is funny how much you can like a person after meeting them for about five minutes



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Ugh you guys are making it so difficult to choose the templar path this time around. I don't care about approval so much as story flow.

 

As you're leaving Orlais "Fiona" stops you and invites you to Redcliffe. At that time it makes sense that you go there, even if you have enough Power to do the templar mission, because of the circumstances. Then you get there, talk with Alexius, get a note from Felix, and meet Dorian, at which point he tells you about the scary time magic and how it's super important to stop Alexius before he rips a hole in time and makes everything worse. The urgency is there for choosing the mages that I feel is severely lacking with the templars.

 

If you then choose the templars after this (which had been my plan on the next play), of course it makes sense to get a large amount of disapproval from Dorian: "I told you this was a huge problem, you didn't act [by going to the templars], and look what happened." [Not an actual quote.]

 

To me, NOT going to Redcliffe first is logical only if you choose to ignore the other cues the game is giving you. And then once you actually get there the game directs you into the tavern to see Fiona which starts the ball rolling on everything. You can of course ignore the note, but that would be really lame.

 

I don't think the story aspect of these two choices flows well at all, and aren't presented with equal weight in the lead up to the decision. The actual mission itself is irrelevant at this point, since you make the choice before you go on it.

 

I suppose the very best for the story would be to ignore Redcliffe completely. After Fiona invites you, the game directs you back to Haven's chantry where you have a chat with the advisors and  then see the templar mission available for 15 Power. You also have Cassandra's concerns regarding the Lord Seeker's behavior to urge you onto the templars at this point.

 

This sucks all around. I'm almost at the point of making a girl rogue just to pick the templars so I don't have to deal with this.


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#16837
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Eh you're just gonna have to headcanon it.  Honestly my PC heard they were siding with Tevinter laughed her ass off then left that powder keg to explode on it's own. She wasn't going there with anything less than an army.

 

Because yeah the urgency is always gonna be there for the mages mission and not there for the templar mission. I think the templar mission more than makes up for it though.


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#16838
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Mmm you can head canon you meet Fiona , since she's the nicest one and offers help , you go to Redcliffe ...then you meet Alexius and Dorian.

When he leaves he says he'll keep in touch .But you have no idea where he is gone to.

So you have a town full of Tevinter and renegade mages with some strange magic going on.

And apparently they want to kill you.

 

It would make sense to go recruit the templars , thinking they could help with Redcliffe .You don't know the templars are going crazy and they might be okay dealing with Tevinter mages.



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@Ryzaki, right. There is actually no point in walking to Alexius's trap with no Templars to back you up. You're essentially going in blind as you have no idea how many Venatori infiltrated the Mages or if they are all at the castle.  Sure you have Inquisition soldiers and Leliana but it's a very small team with a high chance of everything getting screwed up. Not to mention that you would run the risk of bringing Venatori spies into your stronghold with the mages along with a possibly mind controlled Fiona as the "leader". There are plenty of ways to think about the Templar/Mage alliance and plenty of reasons to leave Redcliffe and go after the Templars despite meeting Dorian and Felix. 

 

Besides, you can romance Dorian either way. So getting some approval hits isn't a good enough reason to turn down the Templars. Besides I like the story of one or both future romance partners not liking each other but slowly build an understanding that blossoms into love and respect.



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 I'm almost at the point of making a girl rogue just to pick the templars so I don't have to deal with this.

 

That`s exactly what i did. It just doesn`t make sense for me to leave the strange things happening in Redcliff and go happily to the templars. There are this suspicious Tevinters doing who knows what right under our noses.

 

I like the templar`s mission, but i think it lacks the lead up, compared to mages.



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I did a playthrough where I left Redcliffe to go grab the Templars and Dorian didn't bring it up. He actually won't bring it up unless you have low enough approval to get his "I'm leaving the Inquisition" scene.

As for Felix becoming a Warden, I thought it was Alexius' fear of losing him that would have kept him from allowing Felix to leave. The fact that he'd managed to keep him alive as long as he had was impressive. Although I found it a bit cruel that he couldn't get the medical treatment he needed after we took Alexius prisoner. The man helped the Inquisition and plead our case to the Senate, the least we could of done is helped him.

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Although I found it a bit cruel that he couldn't get the medical treatment he needed after we took Alexius prisoner. The man helped the Inquisition and plead our case to the Senate, the least we could of done is helped him.


I feel you here, but Felix has the blight sickness. No medical treatment can help him; he is doomed. Felix himself knows that. The ONLY thing that could save him would be becoming a Warden, and even surviving the joining is not a guarantee.

Besides, have you actually talked to the surgeon at Skyhold? Trepanning, leaches, and who knows what else. Keep her far away from your loved ones. >.>
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I feel you here, but Felix has the blight sickness. No medical treatment can help him; he is doomed. Felix himself knows that. The ONLY thing that could save him would be becoming a Warden, and even surviving the joining is not a guarantee.

Besides, have you actually talked to the surgeon at Skyhold? Trepanning, leaches, and who knows what else. Keep her far away from your loved ones. >.>

 

Oh Who needs magic !I have amputations!Science is great , let's drill into people's skulls !It's the future.

That woman...is scary.


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@Ryzaki, right. There is actually no point in walking to Alexius's trap with no Templars to back you up. You're essentially going in blind as you have no idea how many Venatori infiltrated the Mages or if they are all at the castle.  Sure you have Inquisition soldiers and Leliana but it's a very small team with a high chance of everything getting screwed up. Not to mention that you would run the risk of bringing Venatori spies into your stronghold with the mages along with a possibly mind controlled Fiona as the "leader". There are plenty of ways to think about the Templar/Mage alliance and plenty of reasons to leave Redcliffe and go after the Templars despite meeting Dorian and Felix. 

 

Besides, you can romance Dorian either way. So getting some approval hits isn't a good enough reason to turn down the Templars. Besides I like the story of one or both future romance partners not liking each other but slowly build an understanding that blossoms into love and respect.

 

Yeah I can even see why after Templars/Mages the PC is too busy trying to shut down the breach to go after the other group.

 

Plus don't get me started on not being able to judge Fiona. Grumble Grumble.

 

Slow acceptance of one another is mine. My PC was a bit "huh?" when he got called a friend considering how often he and Dorian snapped at each other (but that one last Ventaori quest made up for it ho ho ho).


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#16845
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Oh Who needs magic !I have amputations!Science is great , let's drill into people's skulls !It's the future.
That woman...is scary.


From archaic procedures come legitimate surgical procedures.

Although, given the prevalence of magic that can fix seemingly everything up to the Blight there isn't much reason to develop messier mundane techniques.
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#16846
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Yeah, magic tends to replace science in fantasy settings.



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Yeah, magic tends to replace science in fantasy settings.

And the science that does get included tends to be magical science/technology (ie Smokeless Coal, the Anvil of the Void, etc.) 



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I feel you here, but Felix has the blight sickness. No medical treatment can help him; he is doomed. Felix himself knows that. The ONLY thing that could save him would be becoming a Warden, and even surviving the joining is not a guarantee.

Besides, have you actually talked to the surgeon at Skyhold? Trepanning, leaches, and who knows what else. Keep her far away from your loved ones. >.>

Not to mention the wardens are all missing until quite some time after Felix dies.

 

But don't forget the necessity of keeping all your humors balanced. That stuff is all very important in not succumbing to mortal wounds and illness. >.>



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The surgeon is super great! Much better than that jerk Dorian in my party ! I do not enjoy listening to his whining... Sorry Dorian-lovers!



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The surgeon is super great! Much better than that jerk Dorian in my party ! I do not enjoy listening to his whining... Sorry Dorian-lovers!

 

Whiny jerk? I think you have him confused with someone else.