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[Wanderlust14]

I just recently watched this option on YouTube. I've never picked this investigate option during my plays since it seems artificial to me to ask about Dorian preferring men since we've been flirting for a while. He's suddenly pissed at his father for a reason unrelated to himself.

 

Oh goodness, I know, I dislike the dialogue options that it takes to get there, but that moment was totally worth it. 

 

 

I definitely feel like Dorian's popularity is augmented by a lot of what's been said. He and Cassandra are the only companions it's possible for the Inquisitor to form a close friendship with without the player having to do a lot of headcanoning. The rest of them always tend to hold you at arms reach unless you're romancing them. 

 

That is so true, when I read threads about favorite characters, people usually comment on how Dorian is their BFF in this game. 

[nightscrawl]

I definitely feel like Dorian's popularity is augmented by a lot of what's been said. He and Cassandra are the only companions it's possible for the Inquisitor to form a close friendship with without the player having to do a lot of headcanoning. The rest of them always tend to hold you at arms reach unless you're romancing them. 

 

Very true. I found the Dorian friendship with my gal Inquisitor and the Cass friendship with my guy Inquisitor to both be very rewarding. The final friendship scene with Cassandra always leaves me going "Aww, she likes me!"

[FrostDragon]

I just recently watched this option on YouTube. I've never picked this investigate option during my plays since it seems artificial to me to ask about Dorian preferring men since we've been flirting for a while. He's suddenly pissed at his father for a reason unrelated to himself.

 

 

I can't find a video for it anywhere >.< I've seen a few with the investigate options, but not this particular one. Could you link it please?

 

These damn games... I don't do this stupid head canon crap with anything else. But I always think of alternate ways for things to play out, or extend a scene, and so forth. I don't know what it is... the limited dialog options most likely. x_x

 

OH I'm not the only one who noticed! Yes, he does seem rather morose in some scenes. He seems to have a tremendous amount of guilt that is really never worked through. I feel very bad for Varric all throughout DAI.
 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that. Such musings often express themselves as fanfiction for me. 

 

Also, DAI Varric really just makes me long for happier days and makes me want to play DA2 again when he was normal, bromantic, light-hearted Varric and not as sad/saddening as he is in inquisition.

[DarthEmpress]

As someone stated in response to my Dorian/F!Lavellan friendship posts on tumblr: no Dorian no life

 

I adore him so much and we need moar of him.

[Des]

That was definitely one thing I loved about Dorian, he was one of the few people who really saw you as a person throughout the entire game and never forgot that fact. He felt like one of a few friends the Inquisitor really had, asking how you were doing, worrying about you, and protecting you. He is definitely one of the more protective companions we've had and I really like that fact about him (like that moment when you admit you like men too in front of his father and his father makes a comment and then Dorian stands between you and him and defends you, I love that moment) The others could become your friend and while they worried about you as a love interest, they never did as a friend and it seemed like a lot of them struggled between you the Inquisitor and you the person and were not always successful at remembering you the person. Even when Dorian says in the beginning, "I believe in you". It didn't feel like he was talking about the Herald or the Inquisition, but you as a person.  

 

 

This, so much! My first playthrough was a female Lavellan, who romanced Solas (still crying). I seriously LOVED how it's so clear that my Lavellan and Dorian were besties, and I have a ridiculous amount of headcanon about them hanging out in the library, arguing over magic theory, making fun of Vivienne, etc. Dorian was the one whose (attractive) shoulder she cried on when Solas broke her heart, who tucked her into bed and sat next to her until she fell asleep while she was mourning.

 

I just LOVE how much depth they put into Dorian's character. It would have been so easy to just write him off as Sassy Gay Mage, but instead they just made him marvelous.

[nightscrawl]

I can't find a video for it anywhere >.< I've seen a few with the investigate options, but not this particular one. Could you link it please?

Here ya go, enjoy.

[Wanderlust14]

I can't find a video for it anywhere >.< I've seen a few with the investigate options, but not this particular one. Could you link it please?

 

 

I'm glad I'm not the only one that does that. Such musings often express themselves as fanfiction for me. 

 

Also, DAI Varric really just makes me long for happier days and makes me want to play DA2 again when he was normal, bromantic, light-hearted Varric and not as sad/saddening as he is in inquisition.

Here you go, go to 4:40 to see the scene. 

[FrostDragon]

Here ya go, enjoy.

 

Here you go, go to 4:40 to see the scene. 

 

Right hard in the Dorian feels.   Adorableness.

 

In retrospect I probably should have checked her channel. She is the keeper of all of the things.

[Hazegurl]

I love all these posts! Dorian is the only companion I've felt close to as a person while Solas became someone I respected greatly and oddly, I see him as a mentor.  Cole was like a child more than anything so it felt like my IQ adopted him.  I love letting him be a spirit. Cullen and my IQ had a very good leader subordinate relationship. I think it fits for both of them.  I just could never get into the rest, I enjoyed Cass's book scene but I usually clash with her so I haven't gotten along with her on my more canon play throughs. I acknowledge that Varric is not my IQ's friend and quite honestly i got sick of him and everyone else feeling this need to see me do normal things in an attempt to "keep you grounded." I enjoyed the Wicked Grace scene until Varric ruins it with his God like visions of me at the end. IB is okay, probably the only other person who sees you as a person but I never feel close to him or consider him a friend. I'm his "Bauss".

 

I also love that head canon of extending the fight with Dorian about Adamant. Having the IQ tell Dorian that his safety is number one to him would had been a great option.

 

I've always selected the "company of men" line. Which feels better when you don't flirt with Dorian beforehand (imo).  But I've never been clear on what Dorian's father was implying "I should have known that what this was about!" Did he assume that Dorian joined the Inquisition because he was having an affair with the Inquisitor? at least that's what i thought until Dorian's outburst about how he knows nothing of the Inquisitor.

[Wanderlust14]

Right hard in the Dorian feels.   Adorableness.

 

In retrospect I probably should have checked her channel. She is the keeper of all of the things.

Haha, so true, she is where I go for all things DAI

 

 

 

I've always selected the "company of men" line. Which feels better when you don't flirt with Dorian beforehand (imo).  But I've never been clear on what Dorian's father was implying "I should have known that what this was about!" Did he assume that Dorian joined the Inquisition because he was having an affair with the Inquisitor? at least that's what i thought until Dorian's outburst about how he knows nothing of the Inquisitor.

That is how I always took it, that Halward assumed that Dorian was with the Inquisition because the Inquisitor was sleeping with him. As for Dorian's line, I always figured he was defending the Inquisitor from that accusation because he both believes in what he is doing with the Inquisition and doesn't want his father thinking negative things of the Inquisitor just because he also likes men. He knows what his father thinks of men who like other men and he doesn't want his father to think that of the person who has become his friend (and perhaps more). 

[nightscrawl]

So I'm doing the mage mission again... when exactly does he say the "I'll protect you" line?

[Wanderlust14]

So I'm doing the mage mission again... when exactly does he say the "I'll protect you" line?

When you first get into the future, after you fight those guards. There is dialogue options, one of the questions will lead you to a star option (I think it has something to do with being unsure of what is going on), take that. 

[nightscrawl]

When you first get into the future, after you fight those guards. There is dialogue options, one of the questions will lead you to a star option (I think it has something to do with being unsure of what is going on), take that. 

 

OH thank you. I didn't pick that because I didn't want Dorian to think I was a moron. The lead in line to that is "[Explain a bunch of time stuff...] Make sense?" and I typically just picked the other investigates. Ahaha I'm kicking myself now.

[Freedheart]

lol i always play my quizzy pretty dumb, just to keep dorian talking...  i forced myself to play a female this time, so i couldn't romance dorian - guess who was the first companion to declare themselves my friend *sighs* he's just the best!

[Bugsie]

The friendship arc with Dorian is great, one of Biowares best IMHO. The romance, is just all kinds of adorable and lovely (and sometimes hawt). The little facial expressions that the inquisitor and Dorian make has made me replay scenes with them just so I can get screenshots of their faces.

[Wanderlust14]

The friendship arc with Dorian is great, one of Biowares best IMHO. The romance, is just all kinds of adorable and lovely (and sometimes hawt). The little facial expressions that the inquisitor and Dorian make has made me replay scenes with them just so I can get screenshots of their faces.

Oh I know, I absolutely adore their friendship. If he wasn't my canon LI, he would definitely have been my canon BFF.

 

 

OH thank you. I didn't pick that because I didn't want Dorian to think I was a moron. The lead in line to that is "[Explain a bunch of time stuff...] Make sense?" and I typically just picked the other investigates. Ahaha I'm kicking myself now.

Haha, I did the same thing my first time, but then I saw a video of the scene and so my second time I was totally cool with looking like an idiot.  

[Dr. Doctor]

I definitely feel like Dorian's popularity is augmented by a lot of what's been said. He and Cassandra are the only companions it's possible for the Inquisitor to form a close friendship with without the player having to do a lot of headcanoning. The rest of them always tend to hold you at arms reach unless you're romancing them.

This is just a thought, but given the Tevinter Chantry's stance that Andraste wasn't divine (not that Dorian really cares) maybe that's why Dorian isn't as hung up on the Inquisitor being Herald.

I RP being called Herald as being similar to Captain Sisko being named Emissary of the Prophets in Deep Space Nine. While the Inquisitor isn't entirely comfortable with the title and isn't as sure of it as Cassandra, but realizes that the title gives people hope.

[NeverlandHunter]

This is just a thought, but given the Tevinter Chantry's stance that Andraste wasn't divine (not that Dorian really cares) maybe that's why Dorian isn't as hung up on the Inquisitor being Herald.
I RP being called Herald as being similar to Captain Sisko being named Emissary of the Prophets in Deep Space Nine. While the Inquisitor isn't entirely comfortable with the title and isn't as sure of it as Cassandra, but realizes that the title gives people hope.

The Tevinter Chantry doesn't think Andraste was divine? I know they say she was a mage, but that doesn't mean they don't think she was divine/was the Maker's earthly conduit.
Maybe I'm mistaken though

I definitely feel like Dorian's popularity is augmented by a lot of what's been said. He and Cassandra are the only companions it's possible for the Inquisitor to form a close friendship with without the player having to do a lot of headcanoning. The rest of them always tend to hold you at arms reach unless you're romancing them.

And Dorian is sooo easy to get friendship up (at least for me) I severely disapprove of his views towards slavery and I had intended my Lavellan to be sort of cold towards him, but next thing I know, we're best buds. Oops, oh well!

[Vita Brevis]

The Tevinter Chantry doesn't think Andraste was divine? I know they say she was a mage, but that doesn't mean they don't think she was divine/was the Maker's earthly conduit. 

Well Dorian never said what they think she was beside being a mage, but considering how he desribed her... I get that he doesn't think she's divine. And he considered himself andrastian. Imagine what the rest of them think then. 

[FrostDragon]

This is just a thought, but given the Tevinter Chantry's stance that Andraste wasn't divine (not that Dorian really cares) maybe that's why Dorian isn't as hung up on the Inquisitor being Herald.

I RP being called Herald as being similar to Captain Sisko being named Emissary of the Prophets in Deep Space Nine. While the Inquisitor isn't entirely comfortable with the title and isn't as sure of it as Cassandra, but realizes that the title gives people hope.

 

That's actually an angle I hadn't even considered, but it does make some sense, especially when combined with Dorian just being Dorian. 

 

Also, Star Trek reference. This thread has officially exceeded infinity on a scale of awesomeness.

[NeverlandHunter]

Well Dorian never says what they think she was beside being a mage, but considering how he desribed her... I get that he doesn't think she's divine. And he considered himself andrastian. Imagine what the rest of them think then. 

Hmm. I don't know. There's a banter between Dorian and Sera where he says "Most of the Imperial Chantry's teachings are same as in the south, expect for a few finicky bits about magic."
And what is an Andrastian if not someone who believes Andraste was the Maker's prophetess?
Just some food for thought!

[Vita Brevis]

Ah, who knows. Kinda hard to understand them sometimes. 

It's just doesn't really fit in what he said when you talk to him about that.

[FrostDragon]

Hmm. I don't know. There's a banter between Dorian and Sera where he says "Most of the Imperial Chantry's teachings are same as in the south, expect for a few finicky bits about magic."
And what is an Andrastian if not someone who believes Andraste was the Maker's prophetess?
Just some food for thought!

 

Prophet does not necessarily equate to holy. Take the bible for instance, just because someone wrote the scripture of god, doesn't make them holy. And while it's agreed by both chantrys that she lived and died, they don't necessarily have to agree about whether she ascended to some form of godhood, or that she really even spoke to the maker (lore is again very spotty on what exactly the Tevinter chantry's view on all that is.)

[NeverlandHunter]

Ah, who knows. Kinda hard to understand them sometimes. 
It's just doesn't really fit in what he said when you talk to him about that.

Well yeah, Dorian isn't part of his country's Chantry nor does he seem very zealous about Chantry beliefs. He's just expressing his opinion as an individual. His personal take on Andrastianism is just that , in my opinion at least.

Prophet does not necessarily equate to holy. Take the bible for instance, just because someone wrote the scripture of god, doesn't make them holy. And while it's agreed by both chantrys that she lived and died, they don't necessarily have to agree about whether she ascended to some form of godhood, or that she really even spoke to the maker (lore is again very spotty on what exactly the Tevinter chantry's view on all that is.)

Well a prophet is usually someone who is speaking/teaching the will of their god. They are a middleman between the deity and normal folk. So in a way they are holy and a bit divine. But the biggest difference between Andraste and those who wrote scripture in the Bible is that Andraste is considered the Maker's bride and, as far as I'm aware, is the only mortal to speak directly with the Maker. At least since he turned away from Thedas.

[FrostDragon]

Well a prophet is usually someone who is speaking/teaching the will of their god. They are a middleman between the deity and normal folk. So in a way they are holy and a bit divine. But the biggest difference between Andraste and those who wrote scripture in the Bible is that Andraste is considered the Maker's bride and, as far as I'm aware, is the only mortal to speak directly with the Maker. At least since he turned away from Thedas.

 

According to the southern chantry. There's really no cohesive picture on how the Imperial chantry views Andraste as a whole, but it is stated in chantry lore that the Imperial chantry refuting that Andraste was in fact divine is what lead to the schism of the chantries in the first place.