I can see Dorian/Zevran having a few wild nights but yeah nothing serious, I'm closer to shipping Fenris/Zevran than Dorian/Zev.
Dorian and Fenris would need a mediator and a common goal to even get close to grudging tolerance. Fenris just isn't going to react well to a tevinter lord especially one who doesn't see slavery as that bad.
Eh, I think Fenris is too much of a raging ball of negativity to give Dorian the reassurance he requires. Dorian likes to dangle exit strategies to see if they'll be taken and Fenris tends to storm off when he's worked up about something (and he's almost always worked up about something), so I just don't see how they would stay together even if they could work through the Tevinter/mage/slavery issues.
And Zevran's commitment-phobia would just exacerbate Dorian's two-men-can't-be-in-love Tevinter baggage.
I do love all the ideas about Dorian/IQ meeting Hawke/Fenris but honestly I think it would end with my IQ shacking up with Hawke. I'm oddly shipping Hawke/IQ to the point of wanting to write adultery themed fan fiction. Poor Fenris and Dorian. 
I still can't get his tavern quest to trigger, no matter how much approval I have so I just you tubed it. It made my cry, especially when he said he didn't want to live his life screaming on the inside. To cheer myself up I watched his romance scene because I heard you get to see his butt. I wasn't disappointed lol
Are you talking to Hawke on the battlements at Skyhold before talking to Dorian, doing his war table missions, and doing his Venatori quest? Reloading to before speaking to Hawke and focusing on that got his tavern quest to trigger for me.
Eh, I think Fenris is too much of a raging ball of negativity to give Dorian the reassurance he requires. Dorian likes to dangle exit strategies to see if they'll be taken and Fenris tends to storm off when he's worked up about something (and he's almost always worked up about something), so I just don't see how they would stay together even if they could work through the Tevinter/mage/slavery issues.
And Zevran's commitment-phobia would just exacerbate Dorian's two-men-can't-be-in-love Tevinter baggage.
Sad, but I think I agree. Fenris splits after the first night (even after Hawke offered to sex him up some more if it'd help him remember his past 
I have no idea why I love that line, it's just so irreverent and clueless yet it suits sarcastic Hawke so well). And then you have to basically pine away for him for three years in order to convince him you really do care about him and you really do want a relationship with him- since you can't sleep with him and him walk away, then sleep with/break up with someone else and go back to Fenris in Act 3. I think a part of him needs to feel needed, and important to Hawke. Don't you have to tell him he's the only one you're interested in to get the romance going? I always pick that line, but seem to recall any other line won't progress the romance.
Dorian's tendency to poke and silently demand reassurance wouldn't work with Fenris, as Fenris I think needs less subtle hints. He needs to know, not just infer, that he's wanted and needed. Plus, yeah, the Tevinter lord/ex-Tevinter slave angle would probably really fark things up. I just really can't see it, and I would totally not mind seeing it, but it's not even an opposites attract thing with them. It's like matter and anti-matter, they'd meet and then explode and possibly even destroy the universe 
Zev I could see having a fling with Dorian, but again with the amount of work it took my Warden to get that elf to fall in love with him (and as terrified Zev was of doing so, since he cuts off all sex until he "figures it out" and decides it's okay), they just wouldn't last. Dorian would be needy, Zev might have some fun, but I dunno, just not the right dynamic there.
Which is why them meeting with their respective PC partners would go much better in my mind. My Dalish rogue warden with Zev, mage Hawke with Fenris, and Dalish warrior with Dorian could make for some fun times while also keeping the world from imploding when those three volatile companions meet each other.
I've done all his war table missions, his venatori, which maxes out his approval and tried talking to hawke before and after talking to him, exhausting all Giselle's and his dialogue at haven and not exhausting it. Nothing seems to work.
Exhausting his dialogue at Haven could also be a factor. Someone mentioned that if you speak to Dorian too much at Haven you end up triggering a piece of dialogue meant for Skyhold which will cause his quest to not trigger. It seems like there are multiple ways to not getting his quest to trigger which is sad.
Don't worry about talking to Giselle. I've managed to get his quest to trigger without saying a word to her.
So that really sweet piece about Cole, Dorian, and Elf Inquisitor posted yesterday, it continues
By: Sirius http://siriusdraws.t...solas-is-making
I am really starting to adore Dorian and Solas being frienemies in the library/Solas weird office space
So that really sweet piece about Cole, Dorian, and Elf Inquisitor posted yesterday, it continues
By: Sirius http://siriusdraws.t...solas-is-making
I am really starting to adore Dorian and Solas being frienemies in the library/Solas weird office space
Bahaha.... Is that finger thing a "f--- you" ? Or is he insinuating that's what he's about to do to elfy? Either way, that's adorable and hilarious.
Oh, good, someone else posted it. 
Bahaha.... Is that finger thing a "f--- you" ? Or is he insinuating that's what he's about to do to elfy? Either way, that's adorable and hilarious.
And I think he's insinuating both. It's Dorian. He can multitask, even when he's insulting someone. 
Bahaha.... Is that finger thing a "f--- you" ? Or is he insinuating that's what he's about to do to elfy? Either way, that's adorable and hilarious.
Both!
Eh, I think Fenris is too much of a raging ball of negativity to give Dorian the reassurance he requires. Dorian likes to dangle exit strategies to see if they'll be taken and Fenris tends to storm off when he's worked up about something (and he's almost always worked up about something), so I just don't see how they would stay together even if they could work through the Tevinter/mage/slavery issues.
And Zevran's commitment-phobia would just exacerbate Dorian's two-men-can't-be-in-love Tevinter baggage.
Just out of curiousity, how do you see Dorian saying he wants to go off to help Tevinter when the events in Inquisition are settled? Do you think it's him dangling another escape route for the Inquisitor, see whether he'd fight to keep Dorian, or genuine character growth?
Just out of curiousity, how do you see Dorian saying he wants to go off to help Tevinter when the events in Inquisition are settled? Do you think it's him dangling another escape route for the Inquisitor, see whether he'd fight to keep Dorian, or genuine character growth?
I know this wasn't to me, but I want to respond anyway. I tend to feel it's character growth. Or well, not actually growth since he's always wanted to return to Tevinter at some point, but this gives him the proper motivation other than just a personal desire.
I think that by this point in the game he's more confident in the Inquisitor's feelings for him -- even moreso if you suggest going with him! -- and that this is not him dangling an exit for the Inquisitor. No matter which response you choose he still leaves it up in the air, which is another reason I think this. This is similar to the "About the future" dialog you can have with him. It seems that Dorian is concerned that either, or both, of them will die before the end and he doesn't want to commit to anything either way, regardless of his feelings.
On the other hand, Dorian dwells on things, to his own detriment. I don't think that a "test" to see whether the Inquisitor would fight for him is beyond Dorian, but I don't think he would be fully conscious that that was the reason he would ask/say something. He's not devious, he just sometimes sucks at communicating unless presented with a direct situation, as with the amulet.
The above reason is partly why I'm loathe to pick the "I understand" option about him returning to Tevinter. I do actually understand and want to be supportive. But the game is so limited in responses that I can't be truly nuanced in my reply to him regarding this issue.
So I'm playing a fem Inquisitor atm and planning on the Cullen romance. I flirted with Dorian a couple of times, but I DID NOT pick the "You led me on" star option after Dorian's personal quest. Can I still flirt with him, and does he ever address it? Or did I miss my chance by not taking the star option?
I didn't pick it because I don't actually feel that he "led me on." Dorian is fun, and fun to flirt with, and I (well, she) never expected anything from it.
And omg I just adore his friend dialog after the Giselle scene.
This just may earn me my first warning point...but maker help me if I didn't flash to Isabela commenting on Fenris' 'magical fisting thing' when you guys were discussing a Dorian/Fenris um....meeting.
*I'll just got stand in the corner and think about what I've done.* 
Are you playing as a Qunari Inquisitor? I am pretty sure Bull only comments on those.
No, I'm not playing as a Qunari; I'm a human noble. Are you sure Iron Bull only comments on the relationship if you're a Qunari? If that's the case, that means no more Bull in my party from now on. And perhaps Sera only has that extra comment aside from the jousting line if the Inquisitor is an elf? Although I doubt that as she's not very "elfy", and I doubt Cole only comments if you're a...spirit?
I'm hoping someone remembers exactly where and at what point in the game they got the banter so that I can replicate the context and see if it works for me.
No, I'm not playing as a Qunari; I'm a human noble. Are you sure Iron Bull only comments on the relationship if you're a Qunari? If that's the case, that means no more Bull in my party from now on.
I'm hoping someone remembers exactly where and at what point in the game they got the banter so that I can replicate the context and see if it works for me.
I am pretty sure the only comment is that Dorian made a comment about Qunari and Bull asks if that applies to the Inquisitor as well. I could be wrong, though, I haven't done as much with Bull as the others. As for Sera, naw, she will use the jousting line for anyone (I played as a Human mage). My banter on jousting came in the Exalted plains, by the camp midway up.
This just may earn me my first warning point...but maker help me if I didn't flash to Isabela commenting on Fenris' 'magical fisting thing' when you guys were discussing a Dorian/Fenris um....meeting.
*I'll just got stand in the corner and think about what I've done.*
...*scrubbing brain*...
Thanks for sharing, Wanderlust! Yeah, I've gotten the jousting bit from Sera easily every time, but I've read that she has another exchange with Dorian about the romance, and that bit of banter is like...the golden halla...you know it exists but it's just so hard to find...
Thanks for sharing, Wanderlust! Yeah, I've gotten the jousting bit from Sera easily every time, but I've read that she has another exchange with Dorian about the romance, and that bit of banter is like...the golden halla...you know it exists but it's just so hard to find...
I haven't heard of any other romance comments from Sera when it comes to the Inquisitor and Dorian. You may wish to check Danaduchy's party banter video on youtube to see if there is any more, but no problem! If you find out what this other line is, let us know.
So I'm playing a fem Inquisitor atm and planning on the Cullen romance. I flirted with Dorian a couple of times, but I DID NOT pick the "You led me on" star option after Dorian's personal quest. Can I still flirt with him, and does he ever address it? Or did I miss my chance by not taking the star option?
I didn't pick it because I don't actually feel that he "led me on." Dorian is fun, and fun to flirt with, and I (well, she) never expected anything from it.
And omg I just adore his friend dialog after the Giselle scene.
I've been able to flirt with him since then. I didn't take the 'you lead me on' dialogue either, my girl's sights were firmly set on the Commander and flirting with Dorian was just a bit of fun.
Both!
Just out of curiousity, how do you see Dorian saying he wants to go off to help Tevinter when the events in Inquisition are settled? Do you think it's him dangling another escape route for the Inquisitor, see whether he'd fight to keep Dorian, or genuine character growth?
I think it's both. The fact that he always leaves it up in the air about going back no matter what you do (even the "there's no you in Tevinter" that you can get isn't exactly a firm promise) proves that he was serious about it. But I also think that he brings it up in the way he does was in order to see your reaction to his possible leaving, as evidenced by his absolute delight at you trying to use your feelings for him to guilt him into staying.
As someone else said, Dorian is a smart guy. He can multitask.
I think it's both. The fact that he always leaves it up in the air about going back no matter what you do (even the "there's no you in Tevinter" that you can get isn't exactly a firm promise) proves that he was serious about it. But I also think that he brings it up in the way he does was in order to see your reaction to his possible leaving, as evidenced by his absolute delight at you trying to use your feelings for him to guilt him into staying.
As someone else said, Dorian is a smart guy. He can multitask.
I can dig it. My Inquisitor suggested he'd go with and then when Dorian said he didn't want that he said 'kay then, go.' Pieces of me tend to show up in my characters like that. I'll have to explore these guilt trippy options this round.
I've played with all three personalities (my canon Hawke is grumpy Hawke, but they just come off as having anger management issues in DAI, so I've been swapping it around) and none of them ever shut up about blood magic.
I noticed that too. My canon sarcastic mage Hawke comes off like a total jerk in Inquisition. Not to mention that aside from his chats with Varric there's really no reason my inquisitor wouldn't see him as an overly serious jerk obsessed with doom and gloom. It would have been nice to see more cameos from DA2 interacting with him and his personality shine through a bit more.
I've played with all three personalities (my canon Hawke is grumpy Hawke, but they just come off as having anger management issues in DAI, so I've been swapping it around) and none of them ever shut up about blood magic.
Hawke's just traumatized for life. 
Fenris/Dorian? oO No effing way.
If Anders, with his rebel mage antics already pissed the elf off, imagine Dorian with his Tevinter mage pride.
Not to mention his uncontrollable tongue...it's a matter of time until he hits a nerve and sets Fenris on a mad frenzy of rage.
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