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Dorian/Cullen would be cute, although the reaction would be great:

Inquisitor: Anything to report?

Leliana: Dorian and our Commander are an item now.

Inquisitor: I'll be in my quarters.

 

 

My inquisitor would probably reply with something more along the lines of: "Well then. We may need to be looking for a new general in the near future." *Grabs staff and leaves in a jealous huff.*

My Inquisitor may be jealous...or may try to join them...yeah, definitely going with joining. 


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My Inquisitor may be jealous...or may try to join them...yeah, definitely going with joining. 

 

My IQ will always join in because neither Cullen nor Dorian feel comfortable unless he participates. 

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Ohhh Cullen and Dorian would be a cute couple, because Cullen is so cute and loving, just what Dorian needs for a serious relationship (but yea I still prefer my inquisitor xD). And it reminds me of that funny moment in wicked grace game when Cullen is naked and they are like:

 

Cassandra: I'm leaving, I don't want to witness our commander's walk of shame back to the barracks.

Dorian: Well i do  ^_^ 

 

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If i had to join them with one of my characters i would definitely do it with female  :blush: 

 

 



This really makes me wish that werewolves was a specialization.

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Haha I would definitely romance him with a werewolf if it was a specialization :P . And as a female werewolf i could be his pet mmm interesting  :lol:  

 

That silly pic reminded me of this, I thought it was very cute when i saw it, and Dorian is the wolfy here  :wub: 

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Dorian and Janos.

Goofy pic :lol:

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Ohhh Cullen and Dorian would be a cute couple, because Cullen is so cute and loving, just what Dorian needs for a serious relationship (but yea I still prefer my inquisitor xD). And it reminds me of that funny moment in wicked grace game when Cullen is naked and they are like:

 

Cassandra: I'm leaving, I don't want to witness our commander's walk of shame back to the barracks.

Dorian: Well i do  ^_^ 

 

Haha I would definitely romance him with a werewolf if it was a specialization :P . And as a female werewolf i could be his pet mmm interesting  :lol:  

 

That silly pic reminded me of this, I thought it was very cute when i saw it, and Dorian is the wolfy here  :wub: 

I totally wish there was a dialogue option to agree with his sentiment there about Cullen's walk of shame. Also anyone romancing Cullen should have gotten an amusing scene or dialogue about it but I don't think they do (I've only seen videos of course, but there didn't seem to be one.) Also, that picture is adorable, ridiculous and totally appropriate all at the same time.

 

Also, also, I fully admit to head cannoning my dalish mage as a shape shifter that has mastered a few different forms, including a great wolf, though I suppose it's not quite the same a humanoid lycan. (Of course he has to keep this a secret as it is ancient elvhen magic unknown to most humans and thus he does not utilize it in combat or around other people.)

 

Dorian and Janos.

Goofy pic :lol:  

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I still just can't get over moustache-less Dorian. It just looks so wrong to me. It just grew on me so much that he looks terribly wrong without it.


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I think I've gotten used to it. Dorian is so cute either way and it's good to see him look so different yet still so good. :wub:



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I love the Cullen x Dorian pairing it's my guilty ship since Cullen since I normaly don't pair people up that goes against their Sexuality and I read a couple of fan fics on that couple oh my god they are so good.

Another guilty ship is Dean x Charlie in supernatural since Charlie is a lesbian the combo is awesome.

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That silly pic reminded me of this, I thought it was very cute when i saw it, and Dorian is the wolfy here :wub:
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I would play Dragon Age Crossing.

Mr. Resetti would have to be Corypheus though.

Tom Nook as Samson.

K.K. Slider as Mayerden.
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I am totally going to ship this. :wub:

I follow that artist on Tumblr. It's nothing but Cullen/Dorian, Kaidan/Shepard, and the occasional Hawke with either Fenris or Anders. She's pretty brilliant.



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I am just amused that some of my favorite male LIs are the ones that get so much hate. Kaidan for being "boring" or "Carth syndrome" but I never played that game so my impression is, he mentions once about having possibly a crush on someone, it goes badly, and it never comes up again. Apparently Carth angsted constantly? Anyhoo- they are different characters despite the same VA.

 

Fenris is moody and mean to mages? I would be too if I'd been a slave, tortured, likely sexually abused. I don't blame him one bit. And friendmance softens him a little anyway.

 

The whole Kaidan hate just honestly amuses me, especially with his coming out as bi in the game. I just lol all the way back to Shepard's room where they get their dirty on.

 

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I am just amused that some of my favorite male LI are the ones that get so much hate. Kaidan for being "boring" or "Carth syndrome" but I never played that game so my imrpession is, he mentions once about having possibly a crush on someone, it goes badly, and it never comes up again. Apparently Carth angsted constantly? Anyhoo- they are different characters despite the same VA.

Fenris and moody and mean to mages? I would be too if I'd been a slave, tortured, likely sexually abused. I don't blame him one bit. And friendmance softens him a little anyway.

 

The whole Kaidan hate just honestly amuses me, especially with his coming out as bi in the game. I just lol all the way back to Shepards room where they get their dirty on.

Kaidan just gets hate because the ME fandom hates humans (seriously the fandom punching bags are Kaidan, Ashley, Jacob, Miranda, and James... I'm noticing a theme here) and hates any character who isn't the ridiculous cliche they refer to as "badass."

 

And Fenris has pretty much as many supporters as he does detractors. I can't say I like him very much as a person, although I agree that he is the way he is for completely understandable reasons, that empathy still doesn't endear him to me. But he's still a good character. I wish more people would look at characters as characters rather than as people when they feel the need to criticize.


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Kaidan just gets hate because the ME fandom hates humans (seriously the fandom punching bags are Kaidan, Ashley, Jacob, Miranda, and James... I'm noticing a theme here) and hates any character who isn't the ridiculous cliche they refer to as "badass."

 

And Fenris has pretty much as many supporters as he does detractors. I can't say I like him very much as a person, although I agree that he is the way he is for completely understandable reasons, that empathy still doesn't endear him to me. But he's still a good character. I wish more people would look at characters as characters rather than as people when they feel the need to criticize.

 

That's possibly true. I didn't hang out on the character forums for ME, and the romance subforum had already divided by zero by the time I played the game. My favorite characters are Garrus, Thane, and Legion (all non-humans XD), but I still enjoyed Kaidan quite a lot, and Tali almost as much. Liara was very meh for me.

 

As character versus person, Viv is sort of like that. I despise her to the very depths of my soul- but she's written that way and I can appreciate their intent. If I only felt "meh" about her, they would have failed the character.



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I totally wish there was a dialogue option to agree with his sentiment there about Cullen's walk of shame. Also anyone romancing Cullen should have gotten an amusing scene or dialogue about it but I don't think they do (I've only seen videos of course, but there didn't seem to be one.) Also, that picture is adorable, ridiculous and totally appropriate all at the same time.

 

If you go talk to Cullen after that scene and ask him if there is anything you should know he'll say something about never playing wicked grace again, Inquis replies she thought it was adorable, and he replies that he doesn't need any help looking foolish in front of her, and then Inquis laughs. I think that dialogue goes slightly differently if not romanced but I've only had one character who didn't romance him get to that point and I don't remember exactly what it was. IIRC Cullen just said the thing about never playing Wicked Grace again and the convo didn't continue from there.



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So far I did two runs with two female Inquisitors and the very first time I ended up flirting with Dorian like hell, because I couldn't stop hear him speaking. 

I think that my third run will be as a male Inquisitor and it will be very very very hard to resist him and romance Cassandra (I do like her as a character and I want strongly to romance her, but when Dorian speak I can simply stay there and listen to him)...



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So far I did two runs with two female Inquisitors and the very first time I ended up flirting with Dorian like hell, because I couldn't stop hear him speaking. 

I think that my third run will be as a male Inquisitor and it will be very very very hard to resist him and romance Cassandra (I do like her as a character and I want strongly to romance her, but when Dorian speak I can simply stay there and listen to him)...

 

Oh... if you're making your first male IQ I strongly recommend the Dorian romance, especially since you've seen the flirts and his quest on the fem IQ. The friendship with the fem IQ is really nice and I do adore him. But the romance does add an extra dimension to the character that you don't see otherwise.

 

Cole says it all: Glittering to gloss a hidden hurt. Unlearning not to hope for more. Stumbling steps where the wall used to be.

 

Why can't we give hugs in this game?! Whyyyyyy?


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I'm not one for reposting art, but I found this Dorian screen to be SO fantastic that I just have to share it.

 

Danaduchy on tumblr. Go reblog it there.

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I appreciated Kaiden a lot more once I did a whole trilogy run.

Ash got the shaft with her writer change and the fact that most of her non-romance dialogue is bugged so it can't play. The whole racist thing isn't without reason, by the time ME3 rolls around the Council throws Earth under the bus just like Ash said they would.

Cassandra has a lot in common with Ash, but it could be argued that Cass is the secondary protagonist of DAI.

As for Fenris, he does have a good reason to dislike magic. He sees Tevinter at its worst, Dorian is in a position where he can see the good parts of the Imperium. If Fen wouldn't flip out I think they could have a good discussion.
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I totally wish there was a dialogue option to agree with his sentiment there about Cullen's walk of shame. Also anyone romancing Cullen should have gotten an amusing scene or dialogue about it but I don't think they do (I've only seen videos of course, but there didn't seem to be one.) Also, that picture is adorable, ridiculous and totally appropriate all at the same time.

 

Also, also, I fully admit to head cannoning my dalish mage as a shape shifter that has mastered a few different forms, including a great wolf, though I suppose it's not quite the same a humanoid lycan. (Of course he has to keep this a secret as it is ancient elvhen magic unknown to most humans and thus he does not utilize it in combat or around other people.)

 

I still just can't get over moustache-less Dorian. It just looks so wrong to me. It just grew on me so much that he looks terribly wrong without it.

 

Yea i also wish there was option for both male and female inquisitor to agree with Dorian about Cullen in that same scene, it would be even more hilarious xD. The only thing romanced female gets is after that scene, when you go to talk to him and you can tell him "you were blushing, it was adorable", and Cullen is like "Maker's breath...." It's at the end of that wicked grace video, but yea it would be nice to say something in the wicked grace scene too  ^_^ 

 

Oh that headcannon is nice!, i still didn't play as mage, but i will totally imagine something like that when i make mage elfy. ;) I honestly miss ranger and shapeshifter specializations in this game. How cool it could be combined, turning into a wolf and have a wolf pet at the same time  :lol: 

 

Also, for some reason i find moustache-less Dorian surprisingly mesmerizing.... He is awesome with and without it to me  :wub:

 

I would play Dragon Age Crossing.

Mr. Resetti would have to be Corypheus though.

Tom Nook as Samson.

K.K. Slider as Mayerden.

 

Haha ,actually, i think it would be the perfect time for Corypheus to be the giant darkspawn hamster with aspirations of godhood that Dorian commented in banter with Blackwall.  :lol: 

 

"Dorian, why can't you look after your little friends, Corypheus peed on the carpet again!"


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I had to have a break from DAI coz of the banterbug. But now it seems to be fixed. I can´r wait to try human male mage... and TRY to avoid Dorian, which prob will be impossible... I know in my brain i SHOULD romance Cass, but my HEART says Dorian. Sight.



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I am just amused that some of my favorite male LIs are the ones that get so much hate. Kaidan for being "boring" or "Carth syndrome" but I never played that game so my impression is, he mentions once about having possibly a crush on someone, it goes badly, and it never comes up again. Apparently Carth angsted constantly? Anyhoo- they are different characters despite the same VA.

 

Fenris is moody and mean to mages? I would be too if I'd been a slave, tortured, likely sexually abused. I don't blame him one bit. And friendmance softens him a little anyway.

 

The whole Kaidan hate just honestly amuses me, especially with his coming out as bi in the game. I just lol all the way back to Shepard's room where they get their dirty on.

 

holy typos batman. I blame being sick, I think my medicine has made me slightly stoned.

Don't forget the hate Dorian gets. "He condones slavery" I read recently on Tumblr (a rare visit I assure you) that some people are stating that if you like Dorian than it's because you condone slavery too. :rolleyes:  I totally regretted that visit when I read someone's "lovely" headcanon of characters murdering Dorian.

 

People also hate Kaidan for not mindlessly thinking joining Cerberus is okay. How dare he actually think for himself and have his own mission to complete. Ash gets the same hate for that, I believe (idk, I never let her live).  But I've usually seen it discussed about Kaidan.

 

I love Fenris and I don't get why people think he is supposed to be 100% rational concerning his feelings. As a matter of fact I found him to be far more rational than Anders. Fenris admits that not all mages are the same, but recognizes that there are no viable solutions to protecting people from a mage who decides to go all demony on some folks.


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Dorian's argument is valid, a servant or serf in Val Royeux is no more free than a slave in Minrathous, or a laborer in Par Vollen.

The aristocracy in both Tevinter and Orlais both treat the lower class poorly, and the Qun sacrifices individuality and freedom of thought for stability.

Pretty much everywhere has a system that "works" but they're all flawed in some way.
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Dorian's argument is valid, a servant or serf in Val Royeux is no more free than a slave in Minrathous, or a laborer in Par Vollen.

The aristocracy in both Tevinter and Orlais both treat the lower class poorly, and the Qun sacrifices individuality and freedom of thought for stability.

Pretty much everywhere has a system that "works" but they're all flawed in some way.

It is actually talked about how the servants in Orlais are treated about the same as the slaves in Tevinter (in one of the novels) and Chevaliers can take any number of 'liberties' with the commoners of Orlais, including sexual assault and murder. I am not trying to excuse Tevinter for their use of slaves, but merely saying that a ton of places in Thedas treat commoners horribly. It is just easier to focus on Tevinter because they use slaves and we all can agree that slavery is wrong. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/OrlaisCulture and Society: The class divide.  


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Don't forget the hate Dorian gets. "He condones slavery" I read recently on Tumblr (a rare visit I assure you) that some people are stating that if you like Dorian than it's because you condone slavery too. :rolleyes:  I totally regretted that visit when I read someone's "lovely" headcanon of characters murdering Dorian.


There is a school of thought that some people think DG put that in there as Dorian's "flaw," because really, he doesn't have any other than that... haha... Seriously though, unless you just don't jive with Dorian's personality, he doesn't actually have any major character flaws. While I adore Fenris, he has a nasty streak that comes out, especially when he talks to Merrill.

The meaningful thing to me is that he is willing to consider it and have a discussion, which is not something that many people are willing to do when confronted with ideas contrary to their upbringing.

I can really appreciate Dorian's approach to the conversation, which is intellectual rather than emotional. He is discussing slavery as a concept, and although he does reference the treatment of them briefly, he doesn't really delve into what it means to be property, which to me is the key issue. Unfortunately for players, the conversation in the game is woefully inadequate to discussing the issue in full, and the dialog options available to the PC are also emotional, rather than intellectual, so there can't really be a productive conversation in that sense.

 

Cole: Dorian, what's a slave?
Dorian: Festus bei um canaverum!
Cole: But you said I could ask questions!
Dorian: That's true. Just... go ask the Inquisitor this one.


IQ: Thanks, Dorian... (Sigh.) Cole, very basically, a slave is a person that is owned by another person**. They are property. Some may be treated well, and some may be treated poorly. Some people may get captured and forced into slavery and some might sell themselves into it. In the end none of that matters. Every aspect of their lives is controlled and they have no freedom. If a master wants to abuse his slave there are no consequences for doing so. That is what a slave is.

 

** Is that so hard? It's not a deep concept.

 

Dorian rebelled against control of his own life. It is so frustrating that he can't see how contrary that is to his views on slavery and I want to make him SEE that. Honestly, I think they should have left it out of the game altogether for the level of frustration it engenders. Not that a more detailed conversation would change Dorian's opinion, but the options are SO very limited that they seem almost pointless.



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I don't really view it as a flaw... he's just being honest. His point about the "servants" and city elves not really having much of a choice either is quite valid. Of course I've always felt they were slaves in all but name anyway so I have some bias there. I think Dorian is quite aware there a big problems with both set-ups but doesn't really know how to fix it.


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I wouldn't say Dorian is flawless, even disregarding his "the other kids were doing it too" mentality when it comes to the problem of slavery (which, personally, I feel is mostly rooted in patriotism and defensiveness rather than because he genuinely thinks it's a good system), he's still vain, condescending, and, most importantly, has a tendency to lash out at bystanders when he's upset and lets his temper get the best of him. Those are pretty manageable flaws, especially since he's quick to apologize and acknowledge when he's wrong, but they're still there.


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