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#18126
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Too much Dorian/Cullen fanart not enough Dorian/Adaar fanart. Get on that, world. Or possibly Dorian/Lavellan fanart. I still haven't decided.

 

If I could draw for sh-t there'd be more Dorian/Lavellan, enough to make you puke XD But alas, I can only draw made up fantasy critters and not people.



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Or possibly Dorian/Lavellan fanart. 

Ryuichifoxe has pretty decent amount on that, actually. What's even better,it's not ooc at all. 



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These fan artworks are making it slightly harder for me to romance Dorian next time I play male inquisitor.

 
Wait, shouldn't you have the opposite reaction? Or is the Cullen/Dorian thing that much of a turnoff? lol...

I've never gone into slash pairings myself, instead preferring those that are plausible or suggested by the actual story itself. For example, my primary m/m fandom for a very long time was Seishirou x Subaru from the Tokyo Babylon and X manga. But like, Kirk/Spock, Harry/Draco, Fenris/Anders... wtf fans be crazy.



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Wait, shouldn't you have the opposite reaction? Or is the Cullen/Dorian thing that much of a turnoff? lol...

I've never gone into slash pairings myself, instead preferring those that are plausible or suggested by the actual story itself. For example, my primary m/m fandom for a very long time was Seishirou x Subaru from the Tokyo Babylon and X manga. But like, Kirk/Spock, Harry/Draco, Fenris/Anders... wtf fans be crazy.

 

I like Tsuzuki x Hisoka. I watched the Anime and had most of the books, and they seemed quite plausible though I'm not sure if it was intended- considering Hisoka's background. But god they are adorable.



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^ Hah a fave fic author duo of mine wrote an X/Yami crossover fic, complete with Muraki doing his thing... (unfortunately this is not available anymore or I'd link it). The extreme level of angst was INSANE.

 

 

Uh, back to Dorian now. Sorry for the digression.



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Currently trying to decide if I should do my Cassandra run or Dorian run for my next run but I am finding it hard to get excited for Dorain's romance based off of spoilers I've heard about it and because I see him as my Inquisitor's bro/bestie now, if I romance him who is going to be my Inquisitor's bro/bestie/whatever you want to call it?



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Currently trying to decide if I should do my Cassandra run or Dorian run for my next run but I am finding it hard to get excited for Dorain's romance based off of spoilers I've heard about it and because I see him as my Inquisitor's bro/bestie now, if I romance him who is going to be my Inquisitor's bro/bestie/whatever you want to call it?

Well, really only Dorian and Cassandra seem to genuinely think of you as a friend if you don't romance them. Also, Sera, I guess, but you have a lot of crazy to wade through to get to it. I don't even try to be contrary to her and I've still only gotten the "cookie" scene once through out my play throughs.



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Oh I'm always on good terms with Cassandra and Sera but only Dorian gives me that best friend feel. No idea why might be because I like my friends sassy.



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That's what I find so hard to understand about Dorian.   When I played through with my female Lavellan he was her devoted BFF and based off that I was regretting not going with my gay male Lavellan on my first run.   So now I am playing my male Lavellan to be honest he's being a real S**t in comparison.    Okay I did get the lovely speech about how he thought he'd lost me but apart from that he's generally cynical and mocking at my attempts to be nice to him and what is really frustrating is that my lovely guy has to put up with it if he wants to keep the relationship going; I'd like to be able to stick up for myself a bit more.    

 

However, I've been there before with both Zevran and Fenris.  My poor mage Hawke had to put up with so much angst and mage hate, plus that 3 year break, before he finally admitted he couldn't live without her, so I suppose based off that my Lavallen lad isn't doing so badly.   Zevran actually gives me hope that even if they do pack Dorian off to Tevinter for the next instalment of the story, he will eventually be reunited with my guy.   I got the letter from my Tabris Warden today and it would seem that after making her go solo for Awakening and then have Zevran hanging around Kirkwall without her, they have finally been reunited and he is with her as she looks for a cure for the Calling.   Brought a genuine smile to my face when I saw that - apparently occasionally we are allowed a happy ending for our romance.  


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These fan artworks are making it slightly harder for me to romance Dorian next time I play male inquisitor.

lol!! Don't worry. Cullen/Dorian is never gonna happen.  Besides, maybe I'm weird, but I always picture my IQ watching from a nearby chair.  There's no way he isn't gonna be the meat in a Cullen/Dorian sandwich.  Giggy! :wub:


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lol!! Don't worry. Cullen/Dorian is never gonna happen.  Besides, maybe I'm weird, but I always picture my IQ watching from a nearby chair.  There's no way he isn't gonna be the meat in a Cullen/Dorian sandwich.  Giggy! :wub:

 

I'm glad I am not alone in this haha.


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lol!! Don't worry. Cullen/Dorian is never gonna happen.  Besides, maybe I'm weird, but I always picture my IQ watching from a nearby chair.  There's no way he isn't gonna be the meat in a Cullen/Dorian sandwich.  Giggy! :wub:

 

Haha I was always pro Dorian/Cullen sandwich since i met them in game lol. I think it's far more interesting than just Dorian and Cullen alone.  ^_^ 


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That's what I find so hard to understand about Dorian.   When I played through with my female Lavellan he was her devoted BFF and based off that I was regretting not going with my gay male Lavellan on my first run.   So now I am playing my male Lavellan to be honest he's being a real S**t in comparison.    Okay I did get the lovely speech about how he thought he'd lost me but apart from that he's generally cynical and mocking at my attempts to be nice to him and what is really frustrating is that my lovely guy has to put up with it if he wants to keep the relationship going; I'd like to be able to stick up for myself a bit more.


There are two things at work here. That is part of Dorian's general personality, to a degree. BUT he also uses sarcasm to deflect from talking seriously about his own feelings, or from delving too deeply into the Inquisitor's feelings. Both the post-Adamant dialog and the "about the future" dialog perfectly illustrate this.

 

After Adamant he starts off being pissy and then you have to ask him what his problem is. THAT is Dorian in a nutshell. If you don't ask, he won't tell you. He keeps things inside, dwells on them, and that affects his behavior.

 

The "about the future dialog" also has this. When you bring up the subject he immediately goes for the self-depreciating line, which on the surface seems to question the strength of the Inquisitor's attachment. Dorian is not confident in himself (despite outward appearances), and is afraid that he is going to care too much for the Inquisitor and get hurt because of it.

 

 

This is the reason I get frustrated at people who characterize Dorian as one-dimensional or who say he has no depth as the "SJW gay agenda insert" character -- I'm NOT saying this of you, Gervaise -- because it's obvious that those people have not done the romance and seen Dorian in this other light.

 

I really enjoy the friendship my female mage characters have with him. But I don't really feel that you can actually know Dorian as a character unless you do the romance. But that's OK. People do have issues that are related to romantic relationships that their close friends might not be aware of. It seems very real and natural to me that there exists the same dichotomy with Dorian's character.


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That's what I find so hard to understand about Dorian.   When I played through with my female Lavellan he was her devoted BFF and based off that I was regretting not going with my gay male Lavellan on my first run.   So now I am playing my male Lavellan to be honest he's being a real S**t in comparison.    Okay I did get the lovely speech about how he thought he'd lost me but apart from that he's generally cynical and mocking at my attempts to be nice to him and what is really frustrating is that my lovely guy has to put up with it if he wants to keep the relationship going; I'd like to be able to stick up for myself a bit more.    

 

However, I've been there before with both Zevran and Fenris.  My poor mage Hawke had to put up with so much angst and mage hate, plus that 3 year break, before he finally admitted he couldn't live without her, so I suppose based off that my Lavallen lad isn't doing so badly.   Zevran actually gives me hope that even if they do pack Dorian off to Tevinter for the next instalment of the story, he will eventually be reunited with my guy.   I got the letter from my Tabris Warden today and it would seem that after making her go solo for Awakening and then have Zevran hanging around Kirkwall without her, they have finally been reunited and he is with her as she looks for a cure for the Calling.   Brought a genuine smile to my face when I saw that - apparently occasionally we are allowed a happy ending for our romance.  

Have you slept with him yet? He pretty much tells you flat out, if not in so many words, why he's a bit emotionally distant with a romanced Inquisitor. He's a product of his environment, and in Tevinter men don't engage in emotional relationships with each other. It's just about sex. And while Dorian desperately wants a romantic connection with someone, he's built up defense mechanisms to keep himself from getting too attached because in Tevinter those relationships would never go anywhere. Because of that Dorian is still a bit insecure about his relationship with the Inquisitor. He thinks that eventually the Inquisitor will get bored with him or be scandalized out of wanting a relationship with Dorian, so Dorian treats it flippantly in order to keep from getting hurt. He's not that good at it though, when he's taken off guard or lets his guard, like after they sleep together or after Adamant, you can tell he's completely smitten with the Inquisitor. He's pretty much got the opposite romance arc to Zevran.


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#18140
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Its less that Dorian is a jerk and more that he's still afraid that the whole relationship is going to collapse in on itself, or that the Inquisitor is going to get himself killed. When Dorian gets nervous he snarks more than usual.
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Its less that Dorian is a jerk and more that he's still afraid that the whole relationship is going to collapse in on itself, or that the Inquisitor is going to get himself killed. When Dorian gets nervous he snarks more than usual.

I thought it was a really well done scene.



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There are two things at work here. That is part of Dorian's general personality, to a degree. BUT he also uses sarcasm to deflect from talking seriously about his own feelings, or from delving too deeply into the Inquisitor's feelings. Both the post-Adamant dialog and the "about the future" dialog perfectly illustrate this.

 

After Adamant he starts off being pissy and then you have to ask him what his problem is. THAT is Dorian in a nutshell. If you don't ask, he won't tell you. He keeps things inside, dwells on them, and that affects his behavior.

 

The "about the future dialog" also has this. When you bring up the subject he immediately goes for the self-depreciating line, which on the surface seems to question the strength of the Inquisitor's attachment. Dorian is not confident in himself (despite outward appearances), and is afraid that he is going to care too much for the Inquisitor and get hurt because of it.

 

 

This is the reason I get frustrated at people who characterize Dorian as one-dimensional or who say he has no depth as the "SJW gay agenda insert" character -- I'm NOT saying this of you, Gervaise -- because it's obvious that those people have not done the romance and seen Dorian in this other light.

 

I really enjoy the friendship my female mage characters have with him. But I don't really feel that you can actually know Dorian as a character unless you do the romance. But that's OK. People do have issues that are related to romantic relationships that their close friends might not be aware of. It seems very real and natural to me that there exists the same dichotomy with Dorian's character.

yeah he really sets himself and the inquisitor up with a lot of outs right. The "i am but an adornment on your arm" bit of dialogue, he's playing himself and the relationship down even after you tell him you want more than just fun/want a relationship. Probably so when he "inevitably" loses the inquisitor he doesnt come out looking too worse for wear or people pitying him, or so he can tell himself i told you so? Just makes it all the sweeter when he gets caught off guard. I do wish the inquisitor could do a Tom Cruise ( :sick: ) sort of thing and completely embarrass himself, just to get it into Dorians head that my Ouizz is pretty serious about him. God i wonder how Dorian would handle that, lol. My poor Inquisitor.


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yeah he really sets himself and the inquisitor up with a lot of outs right. The "i am but an adornment on your arm" bit of dialogue, he's playing himself and the relationship down even after you tell him you want more than just fun/want a relationship. Probably so when he "inevitably" loses the inquisitor he doesnt come out looking too worse for wear or people pitying him, or so he can tell himself i told you so? Just makes it all the sweeter when he gets caught off guard. I do wish the inquisitor could do a Tom Cruise ( :sick: ) sort of thing and completely embarrass himself, just to get it into Dorians head that my Ouizz is pretty serious about him. God i wonder how Dorian would handle that, lol. My poor Inquisitor.


I like to play it out that my IQ can read Dorian better than he (Dorian) thinks. I think my favorite opportunity for this is during the dialog about Alexius, totally unrelated to the relationship. When Dorian talks about his reaction to parting ways with Alexius and says that he (himself) had too much pride, you can say "I don't think that's it. I think you felt guilty because you couldn't help him," to which Dorian responds with "Clever you [expounds further.]"

 

I also always take every opportunity to ask him what he wants because I refuse to let his flippancy work. IMO there are some alternate paths with the dialog that enable the player to play out the relationship in different ways. I really appreciate that.


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has this one been done?

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I like to play it out that my IQ can read Dorian better than he (Dorian) thinks. I think my favorite opportunity for this is during the dialog about Alexius, totally unrelated to the relationship. When Dorian talks about his reaction to parting ways with Alexius and says that he (himself) had too much pride, you can say "I don't think that's it. I think you felt guilty because you couldn't help him," to which Dorian responds with "Clever you [expounds further.]"

 

I also always take every opportunity to ask him what he wants because I refuse to let his flippancy work. IMO there are some alternate paths with the dialog that enable the player to play out the relationship in different ways. I really appreciate that.

Same here. Yeah its nice to be able to play it out differently.

Speaking of. Do you usually seal the deal with him or go the, taking things slow route? If you dont mind my asking of course. I cant decide which way i like better for Dorian. Both are great, but i do love the gobsmacked face he pulls when you take it slow (especially because at Haven he said he doubts i could surprise him, HA)

.... although.....sex.

Also strangely difficult to say no to his pixels.


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Hallo again, Dorianites.  For the first time I'm playing through the Dorian romance with my 2nd male Lavellan and I must say, I adore this romance! <3  I agree with a lot of the recent posts - Dorian's vulnerability shines through when he lets his guard down and it's so damn sweet.  It's making me want to write a fluffy bit of fanfic, but I want to finish this play through first so that I can incorporate some of the later moments as well.  There is a lot more to him than he tries to let on and it's so a defense mechanism.  I guess being hurt they way he was with his own family added to it and made him put up even more walls. 

 

It will be difficult to play another romance out for awhile, I must admit.


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Ok, this one was pretty damn funny.

 

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EDIT: Artist link that I forgot. http://izzlerizzle.t...-kinky-with-his


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It will be difficult to play another romance out for awhile, I must admit.

yep. Just as well my first PT was as lady inquisitor and went with Cullen. At least someone else got a look in while it wasnt to late, because once you go Dorian you can never return. True story.

David Gaider always traps me into romances. Bllloooooood magic


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Ok, this one was pretty damn funny.
 

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Actually, where does Dorian sleep? In he perpetually near his chair?
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Actually, where does Dorian sleep? In he perpetually near his chair?

No idea, but he mentions that he has a bed in banter with Cole, so it's got to be somewhere.