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I know this isn't Dorian related. But I just watched the latest episode of Black Sails.
 
My favorite character (Captain Flint) had a huge reveal. I'm so happy! :wub:
 
 
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Damn, what a time for the gif to restart... I watched the first ep of that show and discovered it wasn't for me, but that certainly is an interesting development.



Back on topic...
I've seen Dorian sans 'stache several times now and I still can't get used to it.

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That recent discovery of no class restrictions in armors got me doing some weird things, like giving Dorian heavy armor and warriors light armor. But seeing how Blackwall and Cassandra are looking at Dorian, it seems they are not very happy about the decision  :ph34r:

 

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I like Dorian even in heavy armor, but i miss his bare arm  :wub:


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Damn, what a time for the gif to restart... I watched the first ep of that show and discovered it wasn't for me, but that certainly is an interesting development.
 

I know. I tried to find one with the full kiss to no avail. *sigh*



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Back on topic...
I've seen Dorian sans 'stache several times now and I still can't get used to it.

 

It had never occurred to me to see what Dorian looked like sans mustache--to me he IS that sweet little 'stache (and that beauty mark mmmm), but I am glad for the perspective it gives.  Then I read a fic that has Dorian at 19 years of age, and after glancing at this screen shot, I had nooo problem picturing him as such  :wub: 

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It had never occurred to me to see what Dorian looked like sans mustache--to me he IS that sweet little 'stache (and that beauty mark mmmm), but I am glad for the perspective it gives.  Then I read a fic that has Dorian at 19 years of age, and after glancing at this screen shot, I had nooo problem picturing him as such  :wub: 

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Yeah... he's quite the bishi without the facial hair.


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 He does look young without the stache and I agree on that beauty mark, and those lips.... It's no wonder his parents stopped having kids after him. They already broke the mold, there was nothing else for them to do. :lol:


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Yeah... he's quite the bishi without the facial hair.

I've learned a new word today! And I like bishōnen better than Ganymede, so thanks for that.



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Ganymede

 

I saw that word and I was all "hey that was a thing in Cowboy Bebop.. like a planet or a moon... I should say something about that... but then they'll all think I am obsessed with Cowboy Bebop" and then I looked at my avatar :)


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I love this facial hair from the concept art...

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It's interesting how the facial hair differences add or subtract in terms of age. Without any he looks to be about 20, with our current look in the game I would say mid-late 20s, and with the sculpted whiskers he looks about 30.

 

Dorian obviously has good grooming habits, but I do wonder how annoying it is to maintain a look like that on a daily basis. My Inquisitor and Cullen are stubble bros >.>.



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I love this facial hair from the concept art...

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It's interesting how the facial hair differences add or subtract in terms of age. Without any he looks to be about 20, with our current look in the game I would say mid-late 20s, and with the sculpted whiskers he looks about 30.

 

Dorian obviously has good grooming habits, but I do wonder how annoying it is to maintain a look like that on a daily basis. My Inquisitor and Cullen are stubble bros >.>.

 

 

I don't know what it is about the concept art, but all of the proto-Dorians look older.  A function of bone structure? Dorian's face just looks softer somehow. 

 

I've noticed that Dorian definitely has closely shaved skin--a credit to the artists. Tho I wouldn't have minded some body hair -ahem-. His morning toilette must take forever: using a straight razor every day (at the least, assuming he's swarthy), eyeliner/kohl (unless he's related to Richard from LOST), dental hygiene (since he remarks on his excellent teeth), pomading the hair . . .

 

ETA: Moustache waxing, how could I forget that all-important step lol.


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Ugh, I'm really enjoying Inquisition, but one of the things that bug me is that the pacing can be pretty off...

 

Like in this playthrough, I took many choices in the early hours that pleased Dorian, and so I kinda got swept in an avalanche of his conversations and quests, to the point that I had to deliberately engage him in dialogue a couple of times in a row, just to make sure I didn't miss anything.

 

To paraphrase a certain banter by Sera... 'Too high! Felix! Too fast! Mother Giselle! Kiss! Mother Giselle again! Amulet! Bedroom scene!

 

literally, one after the other... and then, like, two lines of dialogue for the rest of the playthrough. It somehow felt more organic on my Templar run, which, all things considered, really shouldn't be the case.

 

But I guess I could also blame my compulsion to do anything Dorian required of me the very minute it appeared in my quests list.


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I don't know what it is about the concept art, but all of the proto-Dorians look older.  A function of bone structure? Dorian's face just looks softer somehow. 
 
I've noticed that Dorian definitely has closely shaved skin--a credit to the artists. Tho I wouldn't have minded some body hair -ahem-. His morning toilette must take forever: using a straight razor every day (at the least, assuming he's swarthy), eyeliner/kohl (unless he's related to Richard from LOST), dental hygiene (since he remarks on his excellent teeth), pomading the hair . . .


I don't really give too much thought to the body hair. The reason is because we know that all of the nude men use the same body model, so it's kind of difficult (for me) to look at a naked Dorian and think "this is a naked Dorian" when my Trevelyan Inquisitor and Cullen both have the same body, albeit with different skin tones.
 
If he did shave, I do picture him looking somewhat like this though... 
Gorgeous art from slugette on tumblr.

Spoiler


The people of Tevinter do seem more swarthy than those of southern Thedas. Broadly speaking, you can go in one of two ways with this: there is the Asian swarthy with fine and/or sparse body hair, and the European swarthy with fuller and/or coarser hair. Since we've seen so few Tevinter men, and only one nude, it's difficult to know how the devs are leaning with this.


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Ugh, I'm really enjoying Inquisition, but one of the things that bug me is that the pacing can be pretty off...

 

Like in this playthrough, I took many choices in the early hours that pleased Dorian, and so I kinda got swept in an avalanche of his conversations and quests, to the point that I had to deliberately engage him in dialogue a couple of times in a row, just to make sure I didn't miss anything.

 

To paraphrase a certain banter by Sera... 'Too high! Felix! Too fast! Mother Giselle! Kiss! Mother Giselle again! Amulet! Bedroom scene!

 

literally, one after the other... and then, like, two lines of dialogue for the rest of the playthrough. It somehow felt more organic on my Templar run, which, all things considered, really shouldn't be the case.

 

But I guess I could also blame my compulsion to do anything Dorian required of me the very minute it appeared in my quests list.

I had the Dorian romance bug, so when the patch dropped, I got all the romance in like an hour, no convos in between.  Talk about whirlwind lol.

 

Thx for the laugh RE: the Sera banter, :D

 

ETA: @nightscrawl: I appreciate your measured analysis on Dorian's possible body hair pattern. I figured he'd groom whatever he has anyway, to an extent, but even a sprinkling of leg hair would have been nice to see.


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His morning toilette must take forever: using a straight razor every day (at the least, assuming he's swarthy), eyeliner/kohl (unless he's related to Richard from LOST), dental hygiene (since he remarks on his excellent teeth), pomading the hair . . .

 

ETA: Moustache waxing, how could I forget that all-important step lol.

 

This reminded me of this silly comic:

 


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But I guess I could also blame my compulsion to do anything Dorian required of me the very minute it appeared in my quests list.

 

I have a similar problem. I am already mentally preparing myself for my next PT so I can spread stuff out better, and have things happen slowly as opposed OMG ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!



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I have a similar problem. I am already mentally preparing myself for my next PT so I can spread stuff out better, and have things happen slowly as opposed OMG ALL THE THINGS!!!!!!!


Ugh I tried pacing out the romance a bit on this current pt. At one point I just left Mother Giselle standing in the hall because I just knew that if I got the quest from her I would just go do everything.

It helps to be the type of player that does many quests and collections though, because that way I was able to go run around for a bit, go back to Skyhold and talk to Dorian, run around some more, and so on, so it actually felt like time was passing rather than: "OMG we're at Skyhold now! One, two, three, Dorian, I love you!"

It helps to plan ahead too and determine which dialog options you want to save for what time. I did the "getting to know you" at Haven, since that seems appropriate, but I space out the fun Tevinter dialog and ask them in stages so I actually have something to talk to him about. I also save the "about the future" for before the Arbor Wilds.

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It helps to plan ahead too and determine which dialog options you want to save for what time. I did the "getting to know you" at Haven, since that seems appropriate, but I space out the fun Tevinter dialog and ask them in stages so I actually have something to talk to him about. I also save the "about the future" for before the Arbor Wilds.

 

That's basically what I have been doing. Since I am waiting on my PS4 to get fixed I am pretty much writing out outlines of my plans for the next few PTs so I don't forget. I think I have decided for sure for my next one to do mages (since I did Templars with my first Dorian character) and to make my Inquisitor either a Champion or Templar. I just can't decide if I want to do Qunari or Elf :/ Qunari would be fun, but I feel like the height discrepancies in some scenes might bother me more. The only reason I'm not all "definitely elf" is because the male elf is super skinny and that bugs me :/ Especially for a warrior.



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That's basically what I have been doing. Since I am waiting on my PS4 to get fixed I am pretty much writing out outlines of my plans for the next few PTs so I don't forget. I think I have decided for sure for my next one to do mages (since I did Templars with my first Dorian character) and to make my Inquisitor either a Champion or Templar. I just can't decide if I want to do Qunari or Elf :/ Qunari would be fun, but I feel like the height discrepancies in some scenes might bother me more. The only reason I'm not all "definitely elf" is because the male elf is super skinny and that bugs me :/ Especially for a warrior.


For my first PT romancing Dorian, I did an elf, but it was too weird and I had to restart with a human. But then I redid my chart (you don't wanna know) so I deleted that and am planning on starting a Qunari PT for Dorian. Based on the videos I've seen, it does look a little weird, but at least Dorian doesn't look like a pedo. (:

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I don't really give too much thought to the body hair. The reason is because we know that all of the nude men use the same body model, so it's kind of difficult (for me) to look at a naked Dorian and think "this is a naked Dorian" when my Trevelyan Inquisitor and Cullen both have the same body, albeit with different skin tones.
 
If he did shave, I do picture him looking somewhat like this though... 
Gorgeous art from slugette on tumblr.

Spoiler


The people of Tevinter do seem more swarthy than those of southern Thedas. Broadly speaking, you can go in one of two ways with this: there is the Asian swarthy with fine and/or sparse body hair, and the European swarthy with fuller and/or coarser hair. Since we've seen so few Tevinter men, and only one nude, it's difficult to know how the devs are leaning with this.

 

I recall reading that Tevinter- or at least Dorian- is based around darker Asian racial types- specifically Indian.



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It had never occurred to me to see what Dorian looked like sans mustache--to me he IS that sweet little 'stache (and that beauty mark mmmm), but I am glad for the perspective it gives.  Then I read a fic that has Dorian at 19 years of age, and after glancing at this screen shot, I had nooo problem picturing him as such  :wub: 

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I will never get tired of seeing this pic.


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I recall reading that Tevinter- or at least Dorian- is based around darker Asian racial types- specifically Indian.

Yep, Dorian is South Asian, specifically Indian, and since several devs have specifically mentioned that he's from eastern Tevinter, I would assume that area would have the same ethnic background. The white Tevinters we've seen are probably from the other areas


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Ugh, I'm really enjoying Inquisition, but one of the things that bug me is that the pacing can be pretty off...

 

Like in this playthrough, I took many choices in the early hours that pleased Dorian, and so I kinda got swept in an avalanche of his conversations and quests, to the point that I had to deliberately engage him in dialogue a couple of times in a row, just to make sure I didn't miss anything.

 

To paraphrase a certain banter by Sera... 'Too high! Felix! Too fast! Mother Giselle! Kiss! Mother Giselle again! Amulet! Bedroom scene!

 

literally, one after the other... and then, like, two lines of dialogue for the rest of the playthrough. It somehow felt more organic on my Templar run, which, all things considered, really shouldn't be the case.

 

But I guess I could also blame my compulsion to do anything Dorian required of me the very minute it appeared in my quests list.

 

I got everything bam! bam! bam! like that, too.

 

I'm really trying to make my playthrough stretch out and have better pacing, but it's so hard to resist. I know after the amulet and the bedroom scene it'll be sparse, so I've been putting it off. Only, I kinda cheated, because I couldn't really resist. When I got the amulet, I did the quest and made a save right there, so I can go back and re-play the amulet & bedroom scene any time I want to... but then I reloaded to a time previous, and haven't "officially" done the quest/bedroom scene yet. So it's still in their future. (and I've seen the future, and it's glorious)

 

body hair talk: Since Indian doesn't necessarily mean fine or sparse body hair, Dorian could be anything people want to head canon. Let your imaginations run with whatever you prefer!  :wub:

 

I haven't been to India, but was in a long term thing (8yr) with an Indian guy, which meant alllll his huge extended family, many who still lived in India. Most of them had a good deal of chest and facial hair (and umm, back hair), but their calves were more fine. I wouldn't say any of them had sparse body hair, but it wasn't nearly as thick as the Italian or Israeli men I've dated. ((Yes, it seems I have a thing for men from countries that start with I, I swear it was accidental!  Checkmark for Irish, still missing Icelandic!))  Fun bit -- gray eyes ran in the family, hitting one or two out of every generation. He had cousin that in retrospect looked sooo much like Dorian. Makes me want to ring him just to find out what his cousin is up to.


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Yep, Dorian is South Asian, specifically Indian, and since several devs have specifically mentioned that he's from eastern Tevinter, I would assume that area would have the same ethnic background. The white Tevinters we've seen are probably from the other areas

 

I didn't play the first games but I've been getting the analogy that Thedas is Eurasia flipped upside down.  Though I haven't sorted if it is also flipped west to east.  I have seen Dorian's home city Qarinus on maps of Tevinter, sitting on the coast due north of central Navarre and Western most Ferelden.  Across the sea from Minrathos.  Though Dorian is a fair blend of Indian and Middle Eastern looks, the drawings of Qarinus remind me of my time living in the Greek islands.

Always amuses me when Dorian gripes about the cold and rain.  A "Hot House Orchid" I believe he was called at one point.


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Random: I love the conversation mod, that zooms in while you're talking to people. I can actually see Dorian's face while flirting!

 

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Yep, Dorian is South Asian, specifically Indian, and since several devs have specifically mentioned that he's from eastern Tevinter, I would assume that area would have the same ethnic background. The white Tevinters we've seen are probably from the other areas


I'd guess that the Western Imperium shares more with the people of the Anderfels (fantasy Gaul/Germany).