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[madzilla84]

Omg, he says that? I'd forgotten as I've only played through Trespasser once, and at the time I was blown away and doing some hard-core fangirling over the fact that he says, "You are the man I love," in that one scene. I damn near died right there in front of the computer.

 

Yes! In the 'what about us?' investigate option:

 

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Inquisitor: What of us? This is it, then? 

Dorian: Nonsense. There will always be an us. We'll just be ... farther apart, for a time.

*inquisitor makes heartbreaking face of sad*

Dorian: Now now, don't pout. They'll put that expression on a statue, and then you'll be sorry.

Inquisitor: You think this is funny?

Dorian: Nothing about this is funny. I am sorry, for what it's worth.

 

 

As for it being optional... well... I wouldn't be surprised if a non-romanced Dorian and non-romanced Tal-Vashoth Bull are together regardless of whether the player actually had the romance in their actual game. They are Bioware's NPCs and they can do as they wish. 

 

Oh nooooo, don't say that, you'll give them ideas! I do wish they'd kept come things exclusive, though, like 'amatus'.

 

And yes, I know exactly what you mean about the Inquisitor post-DAI ... I had a lot of trouble nailing down what I thought he would do next, which was kinda why I started this story, because I figured he would struggle with it as well. I had him ending up eventually getting involved in Kirkwall politics and so on - because of course he does - with heavy side doses of being a Jenny, helping out Dorian and assisting where he can in the efforts around Solas. And maybe a little adventuring, despite his claims to have retired from such things.

 

Edit: Oooh, top of page! Have a Dorian:

[nightscrawl]

Yes! In the 'what about us?' investigate option:

Spoiler

Inquisitor: What of us? This is it, then?
Dorian: Nonsense. There will always be an us. We'll just be ... farther apart, for a time.
*inquisitor makes heartbreaking face of sad*
Dorian: Now now, don't pout. They'll put that expression on a statue, and then you'll be sorry.
Inquisitor: You think this is funny?
Dorian: Nothing about this is funny. I am sorry, for what it's worth.

Ah yes, I remember that now, thanks. I only partly liked that option because I don't think my Inquisitor would respond quite in that tone when he says, "You think this is funny?" That's just how Dorian is, and it's also partly for his own benefit, and my Inquisitor knows that. On the other hand, I do like those moments when Dorian realizes he's gone a bit too far with his teasing.

As I said, they talked about it, and he's known that it's been looming for quite a while. I make up for it by picking the option to wish him well. Dorian was already in Tevinter when Trespasser starts. Though I have been wondering what the deal is with that and how it appears that it wasn't presented as a permanent thing, which the magister position obviously is. Inquisitor also seems surprised to learn that Dorian is there and is the Tevinter ambassador. There just seems like some missing chunk there that I would like filled in.

Also, with the size of Thedas and the travel options, although the letter makes reference to the past month, he has probably been away for at least two or more due to travel time alone. Skyhold to Tevinter, then a month there, then Tevinter to Halamshiral (which is relatively close to Skyhold, closer than Orlais is). In my miscellaneous writing I've just rounded off the distance to a thousand miles** and said that it takes about a month to travel there on horseback.

 

So, as far as future visits are concerned, it would certainly be a significant time investment for the Inquisitor.

 

 

** Loosely based on Alistair's remark that Weisshaupt is "a thousand miles away" -- as the crow flies? I've never been sure.

 

I do wish they'd kept come things exclusive, though, like 'amatus'.

Didn't know that... Sigh... ah well. But I understand that Bull calls Dorian "kadan" as well (I think?), so it's only fitting.


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It seems like so many people took Sera up on the whole Jenny thing xD. That's not for me or my Inquisitor, but he certainly appreciated the offer.

[Conquerthecity]

I never have Dorian and Iron Bull in the same party because I don't want them together. I'd really hate for them to become canon regardless. 

[nightscrawl]

Here is a miscellaneous thing that I'm wondering about...

 

I recently learned that both of the main DAI OCs (one of whom is with Dorian) of a tumblr artist I follow are both bi. Since (I believe) she is a straight woman IRL, I'm left wondering how common that is for female players who have characters that are in m/m relationships. But perhaps gender and orientation don't make a difference at all in this instance and it's just a coincidence. For what it's worth in the conversation, my Inquisitor is gay and has always been -- I phrase it this way to say that falling for Dorian wasn't some sort of revelation or anything.

 

My exposure to fandom pairings is extremely limited. I also don't read any fanfic other than my own -- this isn't ego, I just have no interest in reading someone else's Inquisitor. My primary fanfic exposure with a m/m pairing came from the Japanese manga series Tokyo Babylon and X, by CLAMP, and I only got into that because it's NOT a slash pairing, but actually supported by the material. I tend to think slash pairings are kinda silly. To my knowledge, most of the fics I read from that pairing were also written by women, but very few of them portrayed the characters as having any sort of independent sexuality outside of each other.

 

Thoughts?

[Fredward]

I recently learned that both of the main DAI OCs (one of whom is with Dorian) of a tumblr artist I follow are both bi. Since (I believe) she is a straight woman IRL, I'm left wondering how common that is for female players who have characters that are in m/m relationships.

 

Dunno about female players specifically but I do know that m/m romance as a writing genre has a LOT of female writers. I actually think the majority of the most famous (famous in niche writing here, mind) ones are straight women. Or women at least, they don't usually go around stating their orientation.

 

People always wonder why straight men are so into lesbian sex but women are kinda not so overtly into man on man action? They kinda are, they just prefer theirs in writing.
 

[LorenzEffect]

Do you think Dorian will be a companion in the next game?

I was suspecting so, but then I noticed there's no option in the tapestry to determine if he had a relationship with Bull. Surely that would be important if he was going to play a large role. It makes me wonder if he'll just be an adviser sort of person.

Which makes me sad! I would love to have Dorian return in a fuller role

[SaruDa]

as much as i liked pairing the spares..i don't really ship Dorian and Iron Bull. too obvious. but who am i to judge..i ship Dorian and Cullen.

i'm a male irl, plays both gender in game and my characters orientation depends on who i am going for. lol. but usually m/m

i would like an Archon Dorian in a future installment. heck just make a mention of it just so we know he actually did good for all he sacrificed.

[madzilla84]

They've got a long time to add things to the Keep if they decide they need it in the future, which is one reason it's so useful. Despite my dislike of the pairing, I'd actually quite like that tile, so I can be sure to set it to 'no'.

I would be surprised if we didn't see him again, but I think any mention of his romance would be a Leliana/Warden or Hawke/LI scenario - one or two lines in dialogue/codex and that'd be it, if anything. If the Inquisitor makes some sort of appearance then it might be mentioned.

As it stands, Dorian isn't eligible to be Archon because he's a magister (which was the main reason I was hoping he wouldn't become one). They've only changed the law once and had a magister become archon, and he was very quickly assassinated iirc. I mean, it's possible they could change/bend the law again, especially in a time of war, but currently he wouldn't be able to. (Aw.)

[nightscrawl]

... heck just make a mention of it just so we know he actually did good for all he sacrificed.

But Dorian doesn't want that kind of power. He doesn't like Tevinter's political system, and never has. So it's not like becoming Archon would make him happy.

 

As it stands, Dorian isn't eligible to be Archon because he's a magister (which was the main reason I was hoping he wouldn't become one). They've only changed the law once and had a magister become archon, and he was very quickly assassinated iirc. I mean, it's possible they could change/bend the law again, especially in a time of war, but currently he wouldn't be able to. (Aw.)

So wait... magisters don't become Archons? Then how do they choose one? I know there are assassinations and things, and in that case it might be that the "winner" might become the new Archon. But what if they just happened to die randomly? Surely there is some procedure. What is also odd is that it seems like anyone who is anyone among the altus ruling class is already a magister. So who is left to become Archon if that's the case?


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OK I just looked it up and apparently there isn't much more information than that. I find this rather odd, though. When Dorian has his "about me" conversation he tells you about his planned marriage, saying, "If they [his parents] had their way, by now I'd be married to some unlucky girl from a powerful family. We'd live in luxurious despair, despising each other as I waited to take my father's place in the Magisterium." But later on when you ask him about the "careful breeding" he says, "They wanted a son who could become Archon, to make House Pavus the envy of the Imperium."

 

So, if Dorian took his father's place in the Magisterium, how could he then become Archon?

 

 

As awesome as I think the lore books are, they don't always match actual game content and there are various inconsistencies. I've found it's best to take all of the information in aggregate, with anything in the game taking priority.

Modifié par nightscrawl, 02 décembre 2015 - 11:17 .

[Hazegurl]

DA lore is messed up and I stopped trying to make sense of it. 
 

 

Do you think Dorian be a companion in the next game?

 

I hope not. And if he does appears I hope it's in a very minor role.  Not that I wouldn't be happy to see him again, but with a new PC, I see no point to these cameos as all it does is reintroduce the same character and you get some token details of your romance if you romanced them. 

[Gervaise]

Nightscrawl mentions about the distance between the south and Tevinter and that is something I have been trying to get to grips with.   I thought it odd that Dorian was only meant to have been away a month and yet had time to visit both his parents and conduct some initial meetings with his fledgling lucerni.     I thought that even with the best horses and riding constantly, it would take him around 10 days to 2 weeks just to travel the distance from Skyhold to Minrathous, possibly longer.    I assumed he went overland because of how much he hates travelling by sea.    He teases you how it is now the wrong time of year to be travelling back via the caravans and suggests he might go by sea so he can be captured by burly pirates.     This suggests that he travelled more slowly with a merchant caravan but then the time taken would be even longer.   When he came south before he did come by sea.    There would have been a sense of urgency then because of wanting to find Alexius and stop him from doing whatever he had got involved in.    So, even though it involves going round the continent rather than through it, do you suppose sea travel is quicker?

 

I think the writers sometimes ignore things like distance.    In Masked Empire PW has Briala leave for Halamshiral some 4-5 days before Celene sets out with her army and you'd think Briala would go by the fastest means possible in view of the importance and urgency of her mission, yet Celene arrives there only just after Briala.      No indication is given on how long this journey took altogether but Celene begins it by sea and only does the last part from Lydes over land.      Then later we are told the eluvians would be so much help because they would reduce the time taken to travel back to Val Royeaux to days instead of weeks.  

 

So does anyone have an idea of the distances in Thedas (apart from Alistair's vague reference to the distance to Weishaupt).    Does anyone know about the length of time a large sailing ship would take to make a journey compared to the equivalent distance over land?      I'd always thought Thedas must be a pretty big place or else the darkspawn would have overrun the Continent during the First  Blight before the Grey Wardens ever got going.   

 

It is only out of curiosity but I was interested in finding out just how long it would take the Inquisitor to travel up to see Dorian in Tevinter and how quickly they could get there if Dorian did seem to be in trouble.

[nightscrawl]

^ The only other distance reference I can think of in a game is also from DAO. In Orzammar, you talk to Dagna and tell her you will go to the Circle on her behalf. If you leave and then talk to her again without having the quest complete, she will say, "You're back? But it takes two weeks and four days [18 days!] minimum to make the journey to the Circle tower." BUT, travel time is also likely to be longer in that instance because you are going up/down a mountain and other rugged terrain. And of course it's never specified just how we travel throughout DAO, and we're left to assume that it's done by foot, like through much of The Lord of the Rings.
 

Spoiler

 
Recall too that DAO is said to have taken place over about a year, but Ferelden is a relatively compact area to travel around in, leaving one to assume that most of the time was taken up by travel and actually being in wherever location. I'd imagine that some players would be even more anxious about the Deep Roads portion of the game if they felt that the Warden and co. spent weeks down there. Sadly, I can't recall at the moment, but both The Stolen Throne and The Calling have portions that take place in the Deep Roads, and I'm sure David Gaider made some reference to time spent in those instances, particularly with The Calling, which is mostly situated there. And of course Asunder has significant travel time described as well.
 
As far as I know there have never been official maps with a distance key. There is supposedly one in the RPG guide, but I've never been able to see a source where it clearly looks like a scan, rather than some Photoshop nonsense. I don't really understand why, but the devs seem really reluctant to give any hard numbers relating to the size of Thedas. While this is not a bad idea in theory as it allows them more freedom in storytelling, it's certainly not helpful for these sorts of discussions. But I have no doubt that they have a general scale that they work off of during development.
 
To your other point, all we have to go on is the letter in Trespasser. We are left to assume that he's been gone for a month because of the wording, but he doesn't state that directly. So it's not improbable that it would actually be more, say, 2-3 months, with most of that being actual travel time.
 
For the water travel, he says his remark about being seasick (on the Storm Coast) when looking at the Waking Sea -- "Bloody Waking Sea. Never been more sick than when I crossed that." -- but that is only the stretch of water that separates Ferelden from the Free Marches. And of course it makes sense to cross there and then take the old Imperial Highway south as that is the most direct route to Redcliffe. But we don't know how much travel he did by water across the whole journey, or if he did any at all. I'm not sure if it would be faster to take a boat from Minrathous to either Jader, Amaranthine, or Gwaren (where the Hawkes sailed from, if you'll recall), since you would have to travel around the entire eastern portion of the continent, or overland along the Imperial Highway to a port city, then take ship south to Jader or Amaranthine and continue overland.
 
Here are Dorian's possible travel routes from Minrathous to Redcliffe before we meet him. Considering his remarks about the Waking Sea, I think the red is the most likely, and is also the most direct route.
 

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You can also see Halamshiral on that map, so it's not too much of a stretch to think he took the red route for Trespasser as well.

Although... head-canon time, I imagine him going back to Skyhold for a bit (maybe a week or so) before returning to Tevinter. He'll have to pick up all his wardrobe, after all -- per the Josephine/messenger banter about Dorian's outfits ("How many outfits does one man need?").

OH! (Damn, I just keep thinking of things and editing this post...) And another argument for the red route is the selling of his amulet, which may have happened in Jader, as it seems unlikely that the merchant might have been too far away from Val Royeaux at that time, and NOT unlikely that he would be doing business in Jader, which is relatively nearby. Or an argument for Amaranthine, since we know that is a center of commerce for the region.


Erm... I just realized that the line colors might be bad if you're colorblind. If so, lemme know...

Modifié par nightscrawl, 04 décembre 2015 - 11:29 .

[Qun00]

DA lore is messed up and I stopped trying to make sense of it.


I hope not. And if he does appears I hope it's in a very minor role. Not that I wouldn't be happy to see him again, but with a new PC, I see no point to these cameos as all it does is reintroduce the same character and you get some token details of your romance if you romanced them.

You can't put all the apples in the same basket.

Dorian is in a new role and facing new challenges. And having him as a companion again would create more room to explore that fully.

If I were to think of a pointless returning character that would be Varric, though I love him to death.

[TwixMix]

I am dead. Literally dead. This is actually my ghost using my body as a puppet to type this rn. I just finished DA Inquisition, having romanced Dorian - DLC and everything. I HAVE COME HERE SEEKING SOLACE FOR MY FEELS. I'm a grown ass man and I have made squealing noises bc of this piece of moustache tevinter trash. I hate him so much he's perfect
 
I have so many questions... I've snooped this thread over the time I've played the game, 150hrs of play time.. and now I can finally ask. e.e Some may seem random, I apologize and I ask for any assistance ya'll can give  I have no idea how to post under spoilers? sorry
 
-Why does Dorian drink so much if he's in a relationship with the inquisitor? Isn't he like happier now?
-I've seen so many alternate scenes of Dorian I literally have to see them all. I'm talking about the trespasser scene where the inquisitor is like "a month away and that's the greeting I get?". The alternate sex scene where quizzy is full frontal nude lol. And any other alternate scenes. I recently heard how to get the kiss in the library... I shall try it soon. But anyone know how to get these?

-So I've heard much of the dialogue between Dorian and Cole, but not yet where he talks about how things are better now. How long must I wait?

-I would have asked about the snake in Dorian's card, but I recently found out the snake is representative of Tevinter culture/tevinter imperium. pas it onnn

-Once again... I really need those alternate scenes o_o I need closure... or to prolong this as much as possible

-why does he have to go to tevinter after? gOD hes such ****** trash... plz

I feel like there's so much more but I can't remember...

[nightscrawl]

He certainly is special .

 

I have no idea how to post under spoilers? sorry

Highlight the text you want to be hidden by the spoiler tag. In the options for the post box, hit the square with green line that is to the left of the Font selection; this will give a bunch of options, including spoiler.

Alternatively, you can also just type out [ spoiler ]TEXT[ /spoiler ] (remove the spaces).

 

I don't think you need to worry too much about spoilers for this thread now. If a new person comes in and and asks a question and requests no spoilers, we will certainly oblige, but we generally don't use the tags anymore other than for really large images.
 

-Why does Dorian drink so much if he's in a relationship with the inquisitor? Isn't he like happier now?

Like many before you, you are blowing a few remarks out of proportion. The main game takes place over about a year and a half, and there are a few remarks about his drinking over that time. Dorian likes his drink, yes, but I don't think he has a "problem." I don't think he drinks considerably more than the average person, or even David Gaider (Dorian's writer) himself -- I've seen some remarks on DG's twitter in regard to various libations. However, similar to Fenris in DA2, because there aren't very many other remarks of this type during the game by other people, they tend to stick out.
 

-I've seen so many alternate scenes of Dorian I literally have to see them all. I'm talking about the trespasser scene where the inquisitor is like "a month away and that's the greeting I get?". The alternate sex scene where quizzy is full frontal nude lol. And any other alternate scenes. I recently heard how to get the kiss in the library... I shall try it soon. But anyone know how to get these?

There are no "alternate sex scenes," and there is no scene with full-frontal nudity. ALL of the body models, of all genders and races, are basically like Ken and Barbie; there is no body hair, and there are no genitals shown.

Now, for the sex you might be thinking of this nice piece by Danaduchy. This is not an alternate scene. This is in the base game and we can only see it because she is using a program to freely move the camera around. So, what we normally see is Dorian leaning toward the Inquisitor and they move off-camera and we just look at the window for a couple of seconds and hear some kissing sounds. But this is actually happening out of our view. The devs fully animated the scene, but we just don't see it. Now, part of the reason for not having it shown is that there are a ton of clipping issues, and Danaduchy has the best outcome in using a human Inquisitor, and positions the camera very well so we hardly see it, but it's there.
 
The Trespasser scene you are referring to occurs when you take the option in the first Trespasser conversation with Dorian, when you meet him for the first time; it leads to the first of two possible Dorian Trespasser kisses. If you were in a romance with him when you played it, I'm surprised you didn't take the option... But it's not an alternate scene in that it's not hidden, and is merely one of several dialogue options for that scene.
 

-So I've heard much of the dialogue between Dorian and Cole, but not yet where he talks about how things are better now. How long must I wait?

Are you referring to the romance party banter between Dorian and Cole, starting with, "You're happier now, Dorian"? If so, this banter is a bit problematic. I've only heard from one person who has seen it in their game, and this was after walking around the Deep Roads during the Descent DLC and exploring for a very long time. I've played through the game numerous times with the Dorian romance and take those two everywhere, but have never seen it, although I have gotten every single other banter between them leading to eventual total silence.

 

 

If you have any other questions, feel free... I never tire of talking of my favorite mage, and will happily take any excuse to do so.

[Gervaise]

Yes, good luck with trying to get that one Cole conversation.   I've played through the Dorian romance several times now and have Cole with me much of the time.   One run through I kept him with me continually throughout the whole main game, JoH and the Descent and got every conversation except that one, even got some twice and three times because clearly I had exhausted all the possibilities (except that one) and it was going round again.   Still it becomes rather irrelevant by the end of the main game since it is pretty clear he is happier now without needing to have Cole convey his inner feelings.  Then in Trespasser he finally gets to say the word I'd been waiting to hear: Love.     I love talking about Dorian too.     For the kiss in the library you should just be able to go and talk with him once your relationship has started and choose the appropriate icon.   I used to do it every time I returned to Skyhold at the end of a mission.    It's what I missed after the main game finished, because you can no longer do that.  

 

I've been surfing the net to see if I could find anything on distances in Thedas and discovered a site called WardenWiki.    I don't know how accurate their information is but they seem to think it takes 19 days from Cumberland to Weisshaupt and 8 days from Weisshaupt to Minrathous.  All these would be the times taken by carriage and they reckon a caravan would be a bit slower.  That would make 27 days, or nearly 4 weeks.   Admittedly you can deduct a few days because Weisshaupt is a little off the main route but even so, if you add on the journey from Cumberland to Skyhold, I reckon it would still be about the same.     So I think that Dorian probably spent a month in Tevinter itself, plus 4 weeks travelling either way, making around 3 months in all.   I'm going to be based in Kirkwall post Tresspasser, so that might knock a bit off the time, if I can head straight across the Virmmark Mountains instead of going round them to Cumberland but that would still mean a journey of around 3-4 weeks travelling with the merchant caravans.   So I'm thinking my Lavellan is going to have to set up some private staging posts on route with all the lovely horses he bought and pay people to care for them, so he can get up there post haste if Dorian is in trouble.   

 

I mean, can you imagine it, Dorian calls up and admits that things are getting a bit rough at his end and it takes you 3 weeks to get there!    I'd be going out of my mind with worry, even if I could call him every night to reassure myself.    What would be worse of course would be if he didn't answer.      That's another thing I have to hold against Solas.   When Dorian first said about going back to Tevinter, I thought, that's okay I'll ask my pal Briala if I can use the eluvians  to visit him; I could have been there in days.   No chance of that now.

[Letsbefoolish]

OKAY. So I literally had to find a blog like this through google, so I could have somewhere to talk about this because I am a friendless nerd who has nobody around who's into Dragon Age; at all, and less so in hearing me fangirl like an idiot. XD

 

Maker's breath.

Okay.

Let me just say that this is like my... I don't know 10th? 12th Inquisitor? I've done games that I have not completed so disregard that.

They've all been females. Because I'm a chick and I enjoy playing as a girl, of course. So I played the first time, and of course fell for Cullen. And then I did another playthrough for Bull, because he was really my type. And then I currently have one going for Blackwall and I've done his personal quest and fixed everything up for us. 

 

Now, with that said? I had to literally start a new game because after so many playthroughs and countless times talking to Dorian and always choosing the mage route for the Breach, mage or not, with little headcanon roleplay added to my character, basically just to see him sooner in my game, I just had to romance him. I knew eventually I would but I just couldn't take it any more. (Have you HEARD him speak? Have you SEEN that glorious mustache?!)

 

So I made a cutie patootie Lavellan for him, since I really enjoy being an elf, and I started. 

And MAKER'S BREATH IT GOT SO CUTE I CANT STAND IT

 

I stayed away from all spoilers, basically, for his romance. I just knew there was something about an amulet or something that he wanted, and then of course the problems with his dad in Redcliffe.

 

So I played, and I flirted and I squealed like an idiot and I just gave him his amulet and it was so sweet. I never knew he truly worried about what people thought of us. (I know, the dreaded Tevinter 'magister' and a Maker forbidden elven mage. How dare two people so looked down upon for simply being what they are try to be happy!)
And it was incredibly sweet. Of course, he's a incredible arse when it comes to accepting gifts, but he's a cute one. 

I've always really related with his character. Somewhat with my sexuality even, since I'm bisexual, and moreso even with the family situation (Now my parents may not have tried to ever use blood magic on me, but there are... tensions and its far more along the lines of extremely dysfunctional and, like Dorian, having people tell you what you should do with your life, and expecting you to live a lie just... festers in you, like a poison.) To be able to see much more of him with this romance is absolutely thrilling! And I wasn't expecting him to be so... fluffy. Its so fluffy yet its sexy, its so romantic, yet its relatable. I really am enjoying it already and I am about to go to Halamshiral and I can only squeal in excitement about it!  

This romance is just making me squeal like an idiot and I CANT HELP IT so I really needed some place like this to fangirl my little heart out!

 

when he said "Have you been to your quarters lately by chance?" "Not recently." "Do, when you have the time. here's... something there that might interest you." I was utterly nervous. None of my female quizzy romances gave me as many butterflies as Dorian is already giving me. Its just so... new, to be honest. I've seen most of what Bull's and Blackwall's and Cullen's romances have to offer, but Dorian? I know next to nothing about his and I'm never expecting anything that occurs and it always catches me off guard and makes me so excited.  

 

ALSO THEN WHEN HE SAYS "That depends. How bad does the Inquisitor want to be?"

SWEET ANDRASTE. 

 

Okay, that's about it, I'm terribly sorry to anyone who bothered to read this, I just needed to get this all out somewhere. xD 

 

But, to sum it up, much more calmly... His romance is truly wonderful. He's always seemed to really care about my inquisitor, and never seemed to want anything in return. I always took a bit of offence when people like Cassandra or Blackwall got things started and warned not to trust him, et cetera, because I never once doubted or questioned him. He was the only one not joining to 'become a better man' or 'to get paid' or 'to serve the Maker'. He simply did it because it was 'the right thing to do.' 

And I really like that. He's always been extremely charming of course, and anyone with ears can attest to that. He's always been my inquisitors- my past females of course- best friend and now that I have my first male Inquisitor, he's the love of his life, to put it plainly. 

I'm thoroughly enjoying the romance already and I'm really excited to see what's in store for me down the road. 

[nightscrawl]

Well since you've already played through the game you know about certain plot points, regardless of romance. But... there are some truly melt-worthy romance lines later on that I'm sure you'll enjoy.

[TwixMix]

For the trespasser scene, I didn't get any romance dialogue options even though I was in a romance with Dorian? e.e Did I do something wrong or...

And with the drinking... I guess I mean why does that dialogue between Blackwall and Dorian only come up if he's in a romance with the inquisitor?

Ty for the help, I had no idea that scene was just a trick of the camera! I've actually seen another variation of it where the camera is behind a Lavellen inquisitor as Dorian walks up and such. That's what I was thinking of

 

(Also this is my first DA game, and I'm playing on a PS4. Wish I could use mods but alas... I was also wondering how different the experience is with different races? Like my inq was pretty elfy, in the way that Sera hated lol. I'm curious as to how different the scenes are with romances if the inq is, say, a dwarf? Or a different class? Like being a mage was fun but I much more enjoyed fighting as Bull.)

[nightscrawl]

And with the drinking... I guess I mean why does that dialogue between Blackwall and Dorian only come up if he's in a romance with the inquisitor?

Well there are two tavern-related banters between them, one only one that directly mentions drinking. The romance one is...

Dorian: I overheard you at the tavern, Blackwall, asking about the Inquisitor and I.
Blackwall: I was unsure I'd heard correctly.
Dorian: You have a question? Are your whiskers quivering with curiosity?
Blackwall: I would not pry into the Inquisitor's business.
Dorian: Are you certain? I can draw diagrams.
Blackwall: No. Thank you.

Damn Dorian loves to goad and tease. But it's one reason I adore him.

 

I'm curious as to how different the scenes are with romances if the inq is, say, a dwarf? Or a different class? Like being a mage was fun but I much more enjoyed fighting as Bull.

Class doesn't make a difference at all for the romance. There are a couple of Dorian lines for certain class specs, but those are not romance related. However, if you are a warrior and take the templar spec he does say a certain line --

Spoiler

he remarks that the lyrium you're now taking makes you have a certain smell, which he seems to like. But I don't believe that is romance related, or even gender related.

 
In general, you are free to go with whatever race/class combo you like the best and/or have a good roleplay story for. I play a SnS Trevelyan who is Andrastian.

The races can be iffy in some cutscenes. You may have noticed that in certain scenes Dorian gets shorter or taller compared to the Inquisitor. To my knowledge this is the least noticeable with the human, although the scenes where he appears taller might be hardly noticeable with an elf (there are a few of these). I've heard it's extremely awkward with Qunari and dwarf because they appear to shrink and grow oddly.

[TwixMix]

Oh I must be mistaken about the drinking thing then lol I could have sworn it only came up after the romance. *shrugs*

 

What about trespasser though? I'll try that scene again just to be sure.... Edit: yeah so definitely no icon. weird

[nightscrawl]

The banter about the drinking may have come up after you started the romance, but that doesn't mean it's romance related. As far as I know, there is only one romance banter per companion.

 

And I can't help you regarding the Trespasser option. Did everything else play out correctly, with the ending slide referencing you as "amatus" and so on?

[TwixMix]

Did everything else play out correctly, with the ending slide referencing you as "amatus" and so on?

 

If you're referring to that initial scene when you first see eachother, no. He calls the inq "old friend". However, later on when you talk to him again, he says 'amatus' and that quizzy is the man he loves.

[Hazegurl]

You can't put all the apples in the same basket.

Dorian is in a new role and facing new challenges. And having him as a companion again would create more room to explore that fully.

If I were to think of a pointless returning character that would be Varric, though I love him to death.

Sure he'll be in a new role et al but it wouldn't be the same as it wouldn't be a continuation of the relationship you had with him before (friendship or romantic). You'll be in the role of once again getting to know him and having to pry for personal details about the romance.  I still cringe at the convo between Morrigan and my IQ.

[TwixMix]

Honestly I would be pretty devastated if in the next game you can't develop your relationship with Dorian more.. or at least see them together if you're a different inq?