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[Arlee]

Thanks for the additional insight into Halward's character; I only have in game info about the family. I'm still not sure I wouldn't classify Halward as an abuser due to his manipulative nature which falls into emotional abuse territory and near physical assault with the blood magic which falls under physical abuse. His disrespect of boundaries by deceiving Dorian into seeing him are also controlling and manipulative behaviors; both behaviors fall under the emotional abuse category. He and his father may very well love each other and even gotten along better in the past but that doesn't mean all of these most recent actions aren't abusive.

Relationships are complicated especially parental relationships. I've spent time in therapy dealing with the aftermath of a mentally ill mother that was physically and emotionally abusive so I'm probably extra sensitive to the signs. Or perhaps I read too much of my own situation into what is going on. Dorian obviously still loves his father and wants his approval but he's so young. Again, that parallels my own experience. My mom had terminal cancer while I was in college and I helped care for her. In her last few days while she was doped up to the point of not being able to talk I said my final goodbyes. I begged for her forgiveness for being such a horrible daughter and causing her behavior toward me. She didn't respond but squeezed my hand when I asked if she needed more pain medicine. I was too young at that point and still too caught up in the abusive cycle to even call her previous behavior abuse. It took therapy to name her behavior for what it was and understand that I wasn't a horrible daughter. That's why it's so hard for me to stroll in and make these decisions for Dorian. The situation is too complicated and nuanced for anyone to get a good read in the 5 minutes that we know Dorian.

I guess I'm really getting much closer to my discomfort with the whole situation. I didn't realize all of this was going through my head when I started typing. Think I'll go have a cry, hug my hubby and pups and be grateful for the love I have in my life now.

 

Honestly, imo relationships between parents and children are some of the most fraught and complicated ones we experience, even when they are really good and healthy. There are just so many layers to everything and often issues stem through the generations. I have some personal experience about how a parent can make horrific choices out of love, but I think because at this point I have a healthy relationship with my mom I often do take a more forgiving view of Halward. Part of what BioWare does really well is to tell stories which touch people emotionally and our feelings on these things can't help but be informed by our personal experiences in real life. It's why there is such a wide breadth in how people react to these things. People's reactions to this quest in particular are fascinating. Personal experience informs even when the person experiencing it isn't aware of it.

 

Anywho, that's a lot of words to say I understand on a basic level how you feel about it and why you view it how you do

 

If you encouraged them to speak, Dorian says, "I only saw him a handful of times while I was home. He never said anything about keeping me as his heir."

 

The lines above about seeing his (drunk) mother only seem to trigger if he went home for the 2 years rather than the month or two, but I got the 'handful of times' line from a Dorian who'd been gone a month. I think when he's been gone 2 years and was encouraged to speak to Halward, he says something along the lines of "I went home - twice. Father was only there once. Mother was drunk both times." 

 

Oh! Thanks, I was just wondering why I never got that line about seeing his mother drunk. That makes a lot of sense

 

Do you feel it is a pity that you have to buy a source book to get the full picture about Dorian?   I mean it is obvious from the biography in WoT2 that the problems with his family started back in his childhood, so had been going on and off for around twenty years before the final straw with the blood magic.   It is also clear that Dorian wouldn't be the person he is today but for Alexius.

 

I wish they could put everything in the game, but honestly there's so much depth to everything it's not really possible and it would really water stuff down. Also, I wouldn't be surprised if most people wouldn't care

 

About when the family issues started... honestly I think the issues started from the moment Halward and (damn I forgot her name) got married. I mean I suppose it's possible they liked each other at some point but it seems unlikely. Also this is probably a great example of familial problems spanning generations.

[nightscrawl]

About when the family issues started... honestly I think the issues started from the moment Halward and (damn I forgot her name) got married. I mean I suppose it's possible they liked each other at some point but it seems unlikely. Also this is probably a great example of familial problems spanning generations.

 
I think that's clear when Dorian relates the information about marriage, and says of his parents, "Never mind that they loathed each other." He had to deal with that, and see it, his entire childhood. Sexuality issues aside, I've no doubt that that influenced his views on relationships a great deal. About the relationship with his father, in the tavern scene he says, "I'm never what you wanted." Again, this is a lot of baggage for Dorian to be carrying around, and he has done so for a very long time.

[Gervaise]

That hand holding by the Inquisitor is really touching but the fact is you never get to see this without a mod.   Why on earth did they animate these sequences and then not include them in the game?   Or is it nothing to do with Bioware but someone else's clever programming?      I've experimented with each of the responses and the play out is exactly the same if you only have the standard game, it is only the dialogue which is different.

 

As for the emotional baggage that Dorian is carrying around with him, I think it shows that he would probably be just as messed up without his sexuality because he started kicking back against his arranged life from quite a young age.   As you say, observing his parent's unhappy marriage would have been enough to put anyone off the prospect of being married to someone you were promised to from the day you were born, without your feelings on the matter being taken into consideration at all.   Then there is the whole, our son will be the next Archon thing.   They never really gave him the opportunity to choose his own path in life at all or how he wished to use his talents.    I've known people like Dorian in real life, whose parents were pressuring them to follow one path, when their heart was somewhere else and it never ends well.

[Witch Cocktor]

You know, as the Inquisitor and Dorian's friend, in some cases lover (depends on the Inquisitor), I wanted to give him an intervention because honestly, his alcohol usage worried me, and still does. Not many people in this fandom have expressed their concern on the subject, though yeah we are talking about a fictional character BUT HE LIVES ON and is possibly coming back in DA4. Don't want him to have a route in which he ends up a pathetic drunk.

 

The man has a really unhealthy relationship with alcohol, imo.

[nightscrawl]

That hand holding by the Inquisitor is really touching but the fact is you never get to see this without a mod.   Why on earth did they animate these sequences and then not include them in the game?   Or is it nothing to do with Bioware but someone else's clever programming?      I've experimented with each of the responses and the play out is exactly the same if you only have the standard game, it is only the dialogue which is different.

 
It's not a mod, really, just the cinematic camera app. And yes, that would be a Bioware and cinematic team decision. As I said in the post, the clipping is quite bad. While it's nice that the scene is fully animated, it's not really "game ready." It shouldn't actually be shown in that state.
 
 

You know, as the Inquisitor and Dorian's friend, in some cases lover (depends on the Inquisitor), I wanted to give him an intervention because honestly, his alcohol usage worried me, and still does. Not many people in this fandom have expressed their concern on the subject, though yeah we are talking about a fictional character BUT HE LIVES ON and is possibly coming back in DA4. Don't want him to have a route in which he ends up a pathetic drunk.
 
The man has a really unhealthy relationship with alcohol, imo.

 

It crops up from time to time. I think the view will vary from player to player.

 

I say this as a person who does not drink. I'm not a teetotaler, I just have no interest and never acquired much of a taste for it.

 

It is true that he uses it as a crutch, but I don't think it's too bad, really. I wouldn't call him an alcoholic, as some have, or anything that extreme. I think DG may have expressed surprise at those remarks, but I don't have a quote to back that up. In general, I think the alcohol usage by both Dorian and Fenris reflect more of a looser view toward its use that David Gaider has, and is not meant to be indicative of any "problem" that either of them have.

 

For Dorian specifically, he was raised in an environment where high-quality alcohol was accessible and consumed at social events. He likes to drink, and appreciates it, but I don't think it's any more excessive than anyone else in that time period, or even today. It seems more noticeable for him (and Fenris) because he actually talks about it. There are two instances in the game where he gives examples of using it as a crutch: his relating his history with Alexius, and his remark after the Halward confrontation. All other instances or references to drink in the game seem to be for its own sake. And remember, the game takes place over the course of 1-2 years, so I don't think that alcohol consumption over that time, in the mentions that we get, is excessive. The same is true for Fenris and the timespan of that game.

 

So I think it's all relative and you need to take everything together and look at it with that perspective.

 

 

Now, the above does not apply to the account of his behavior in WoT. That is presented as self-destructive behavior that, along with sex, he is using as a means of escapism and also rebellion. It is evident that Dorian needs something to work toward, to apply himself. Alexius gives him that and he slides into relative stability during his time with him. Then he and Alexius quarrel and break, and he goes back to his old ways until his father kidnaps him and he's forced to be without his vices. He eventually leaves, wanders aimlessly, living off of family and friends, until he makes the fateful decision to head south with a new goal: find out exactly what Alexius is up to and intervene if necessary.

 

Now Dorian has what can be said to be his ultimate personal goal: saving his homeland from itself. In addition, I think his time with the Inquisition, and in the South (away from Tevinter) has changed him for the better. I do not think he will slide back into self-destructive behavior.

[susanwb]

 
It's not a mod, really, just the cinematic camera app. And yes, that would be a Bioware and cinematic team decision. As I said in the post, the clipping is quite bad. While it's nice that the scene is fully animated, it's not really "game ready." It shouldn't actually be shown in that state.
 
 

 

It crops up from time to time. I think the view will vary from player to player.

 

I say this as a person who does not drink. I'm not a teetotaler, I just have no interest and never acquired much of a taste for it.

 

It is true that he uses it as a crutch, but I don't think it's too bad, really. I wouldn't call him an alcoholic, as some have, or anything that extreme. I think DG may have expressed surprise at those remarks, but I don't have a quote to back that up. In general, I think the alcohol usage by both Dorian and Fenris reflect more of a looser view toward its use that David Gaider has, and is not meant to be indicative of any "problem" that either of them have.

 

For Dorian specifically, he was raised in an environment where high-quality alcohol was accessible and consumed at social events. He likes to drink, and appreciates it, but I don't think it's any more excessive than anyone else in that time period, or even today. It seems more noticeable for him (and Fenris) because he actually talks about it. There are two instances in the game where he gives examples of using it as a crutch: his relating his history with Alexius, and his remark after the Halward confrontation. All other instances or references to drink in the game seem to be for its own sake. And remember, the game takes place over the course of 1-2 years, so I don't think that alcohol consumption over that time, in the mentions that we get, is excessive. The same is true for Fenris and the timespan of that game.

 

So I think it's all relative and you need to take everything together and look at it with that perspective.

 

 

Now, the above does not apply to the account of his behavior in WoT. That is presented as self-destructive behavior that, along with sex, he is using as a means of escapism and also rebellion. It is evident that Dorian needs something to work toward, to apply himself. Alexius gives him that and he slides into relative stability during his time with him. Then he and Alexius quarrel and break, and he goes back to his old ways until his father kidnaps him and he's forced to be without his vices. He eventually leaves, wanders aimlessly, living off of family and friends, until he makes the fateful decision to head south with a new goal: find out exactly what Alexius is up to and intervene if necessary.

 

Now Dorian has what can be said to be his ultimate personal goal: saving his homeland from itself. In addition, I think his time with the Inquisition, and in the South (away from Tevinter) has changed him for the better. I do not think he will slide back into self-destructive behavior.

 

There's also the banter he has with Blackwall, who says something like "I can't believe you drank that swill in the tavern," Dorian gives some lengthy (and ridiculous) explanation for it, and Blackwall ends by saying, "Or you're a drunkard with terrible taste."  And Dorian replies, "Well, there is that."  So he doesn't really deny it.  I agree that his use of alcohol is worrisome.  My Inquisitors worried about it, anyway.

[Addictress]

Just throwing a topic out there... Dorian and healing magic. Go!

I am very much of the opinion that the specific spells we have access to in the game do not dictate anything "real" in the sense of how it relates to the story. I don't believe that my Warden mage is SO much more powerful simply because that game has the most amount of spells. For example, even though we don't have healing spells in DAI, we know that mages still do heal. Aside from the devs' gaming reasons for removing it -- please don't debate this here -- I thought the lore reasons were interesting: healing was never meant to be an in-combat cure-all like the way that we used it in DAO/2, and is actually more limited in Thedas as a specialty.

It seems to me that, with the spells that Necromancy has available, Dorian would lean more toward the School of Entropy generally. However, I do realize that there are a couple of references in banter to him using fire spells. Entropy is the opposite of, and complimentary to Creation (where we typically have healing spells).

Dorian is a competent and skilled mage, and it seems to me that he would know a little something of everything. I'm thinking that he would know how to heal, but that it might not have been something he was very interested in, and so never really developed. Consequently, he may only use healing for very minor things: cuts, scrapes, bruising, headaches. It may require intense concentration. And anything more intense, such as in an emergency, might be severely draining.

Unfortunately, I do find it difficult to consider magic and its use outside of the gaming context, and the developers have never given much of a description of its use. I do recall that David Gaider wrote quite a bit of Fiona's magic use in The Calling, including some healing, and of course Asunder centered around mages. But it's difficult to recall the exact way he described it all.

I always wonder this too - how much can all the Mages cast spells that are outside their specialization? I wonder if Vivienne who I always spec for lightning can do Solas' cold spells too. Etc.

[nightscrawl]

There's also the banter he has with Blackwall, who says something like "I can't believe you drank that swill in the tavern," Dorian gives some lengthy (and ridiculous) explanation for it, and Blackwall ends by saying, "Or you're a drunkard with terrible taste."  And Dorian replies, "Well, there is that."  So he doesn't really deny it.  I agree that his use of alcohol is worrisome.  My Inquisitors worried about it, anyway.

 

Blackwall: Dorian, I can't believe you drank that swill at the tavern.
Dorian: I can't believe they served that swill at the tavern. What is Skyhold coming to?
Blackwall: Then why did you drink it?
Dorian: I couldn't stop. With each sip, it was, "it can't be that bad, can it?" Before I knew it, I was analyzing the nuances of its flavor, observing its effect on my nausea. I was in a catatonic trance, fueled by the stench of disgusting dwarven ale.
Blackwall: Or you're a drunkard with terrible taste.
Dorian: There is that.

 

*shrug* I don't agree with your view on this. Let me put it this way: I don't think there is an obvious problem and it can be interpreted in different ways, and each player is going to do so based on their own perspective.

[nightscrawl]

I always wonder this too - how much can all the Mages cast spells that are outside their specialization? I wonder if Vivienne who I always spec for lightning can do Solas' cold spells too. Etc.

 
I wouldn't want to get too into Solas's magic, since he has an unique background. I'd imagine that formally trained Circle mages, whether in Tevinter or in the South, know all of the basic spells, but perhaps a lot of practice, or specialization in one school or other is required for many of those spells to inflict their maximum damage, or be combined with other spells. We can also look at spells later in the tree as more advanced, so a mage might need to have more of an understanding of, say, Lightning Bolt before they can cast Chain Lightning**, and so on.

 

Entropy is an interesting example because a lot of those abilities involve inflicting some sort of weakness, physical or mental, on your opponent. I wouldn't be surprised if those are quite advanced all around.

 

 

 

 

** Yes, I realize that CL is actually available before LB in DAI.

[Witch Cocktor]

Dorian is also banned from the Skyhold's wine cellar, and Josephine's assistant, agent, whoever, says to him that Josephine is considering that Dorian should replace the 13 bottles of wine he took, to which Dorian says '' only 13? I should consider myself lucky. ''

 

His history with alcohol is awful, but he still remains such an enthusiastic user of such substances which confuses me slightly. I don't think there's any companion in DA:I that brings up alcohol as much as Dorian.

 

But, in the end, I'm maybe a bit more sensitive to alcohol-related issues that most people. I'm totally for using alcohol in moderation, but I think Dorian is anything but moderate with his alcohol usage, from what we know of his history and present.

[Gervaise]

On the drink subject, I met someone some years ago who Dorian reminded me of.    They had signed up for an alcoholics program but the people in charge of it switched them to a different one because they weren't deemed alcoholic, they just abused alcohol.  In other word the drink wasn't the problem but their underlying issues.   They recounted to me how they had been in a bit of a habitual lifestyle of drinking, partying and then winding up in bed with a total stranger.    One morning they woke up and thought "What in the hell am I doing with my life?"  They poured the last bottle of vodka down the sink and signed up to get themselves sorted out.   When their reasons for living the way they did were analysed, it turned out the problem was their relationship with their father.   Sound familiar?

 

With regard to the animations, there was one that I did pick up on quite by accident.   I had been going through the various cut scenes, taking screen shots.   When I looked through them; the one at the end of Trespasser, where Dorian comes back to stand at the Inquisitor's side showed the Inquisitor turning their head to either look or speak to him.  I hadn't noticed it when it was actually playing but there it was.   May be the Inquisitor is asking him to stay a bit longer, which is why Dorian is there in that final scene.  

[maia0407]

You know, as the Inquisitor and Dorian's friend, in some cases lover (depends on the Inquisitor), I wanted to give him an intervention because honestly, his alcohol usage worried me, and still does. Not many people in this fandom have expressed their concern on the subject, though yeah we are talking about a fictional character BUT HE LIVES ON and is possibly coming back in DA4. Don't want him to have a route in which he ends up a pathetic drunk.

The man has a really unhealthy relationship with alcohol, imo.

Yeah, he shows signs of being a problem drinker. I suspect he self medicates with it. After his confrontation with daddy, he mentioned getting a drink or getting drunk (can't remember which) to help him deal with the aftermath. His comments on drinking along with others restricting his access and calling him a drunk point to his drinking being excessive enough to stand out as abnormal to others. Poor Dorian. He needs a hug and a therapist. But please no interventions like on that awful tv show. I think those do more harm than good.

[Gervaise]

If you are a devoted friend or lover to Dorian then that is really all the intervention he needs.   It is noticeable that he makes far less references to getting drunk later in the game.   In Trespasser he mentions about getting the good wine but we are meant to be at a party.   It certainly doesn't sound like he is drowning his sorrows in drink, simply enjoying himself normally.   

 

Whilst he mentions drinking after dinner brandy with Alexius, in the biography in WoT2 it seems to me that he wasn't drinking to excess during the time he was with him because he had someone mentoring him who he could respect and who was letting him be himself, plus keeping his family at bay.    It was only after Alexius went off the rails himself and Dorian couldn't take the pressure of constantly trying to find a cure for Felix, when he knew it was hopeless, that he reverted to his former drinking habits.   Then his behaviour was compounded but what his father tried to do to him.     Even so, he manages to pull himself together and head off south in search of Alexius and Felix, even if he is cradling a brandy bottle during the voyage. 

 

What Dorian needs is TLC and someone in his life that he can totally rely on.    He recognises this in the Inquisitor whether you are his friend or lover, which is why he gives the crystal to both.    I imagine that when things get tough mentally and he feels himself slipping, he now reaches for the crystal instead of the alcohol.

[Sifr]

Yeah, he shows signs of being a problem drinker. I suspect he self medicates with it. After his confrontation with daddy, he mentioned getting a drink or getting drunk (can't remember which) to help him deal with the aftermath. His comments on drinking along with others restricting his access and calling him a drunk point to his drinking being excessive enough to stand out as abnormal to others. Poor Dorian. He needs a hug and a therepaist. But please no interventions like on that awful tv show. I think those do more harm than good.

 

Something that came up in Trespasser I noticed, is that problem drinking or self-medicating with alcohol might run in the family, as Dorian pointedly mentions that his mother was drunk both times he visited home when he was back in Tevinter. We know that her relationship with her husband (prior to his assassination) was loveless and just as rocky as that with her son, so it'd not be that surprising to learn that she might use alcohol as a coping mechanism to deal with her unhappy marriage.

 

Of course, that Dorian is aware of his mother's excessive drinking at least gives him a reason to keep his own issues with alcohol in check, along with the support of his friends, who we can see are are clearly all looking out for him. Even Alexius' invitation for him to join the Venatori might have also been a way for him to try to get his former protege to find a purpose and quit drinking, since it's clear that his former mentor still holds him in high esteem despite their differences and falling out.

 

On a slight tangent, but did anyone else find it a tad heartwarming to learn in WOT2 that Dorian was fully aware of the nature of Felix's illness the entire time, but chose to keep it secret from the Inquisitor? It really shows how strong his friendship was with Felix that he'd not betray his trust or confidence, even to their mutual newfound ally in the Inquisitor.

[maia0407]

He sounds so sad when he mentions his mother being drunk during his visits. You are definitely on to something in that alcohol abuse probably runs in his family.

[Sifr]

I think that to understand Dorian's problems with alcohol, we first need to understand what the problem he's drinking to cope with.

 

Naturally we should begin with his parents. It seems to me that his conflict with his parents run far deeper than them having a problem with his orientation, which always struck me an excuse more than anything, because while it does play a part in it, it nonetheless does not address the more underlying issue at the heart of that matter.

 

That issue being the impossible standard they set for him growing up and Dorian feeling like he can never measure up to it.

 

Dorian's need to excel probably stems from him having developed a bit of an inferiority complex to the perceived ideal version of him he feels his parents have of him, hence his habit of flouting of his brilliance as overcompensation. Dorian doesn't brag to convince others he's as good as he claims, but in order to convince himself of that fact.

 

Dorian is a highly intelligent scholar and highly accomplished mage, so why does that not make him the "perfect heir" his parents desired? Why should he not be someone whom could easily become the future Archon that they dreamed of? The answer is because the ultra-Conservative and hetero-normative Tevinter that his parents belong to refuse to accept him for who he is.

 

As long as Tevinter society exists as it does in the present, then I think Dorian will feel slightly burdened by the weight of the prejudice and bigotry, that would ostracise him simply because he refuses to let society dictate his happiness and how he lives his life.

 

And yet... for all that he doesn't care about what society thinks of him and could handle being a pariah, I think we can safely say that Dorian does care about what his parents think of him. This is why their rejection of him and attempt to "change him" are what hit him so hard. It's one thing to always feel like you're living in the shadow of their "ideal" son, it's another to know they want to replace you with it.

 

I dunno, I'm probably wrong and just overthinking it all? 

[nightscrawl]

^ All of that sounds about right to me.

 

What I don't understand in all of these posts by various people is the failure to take into account the fact that Dorian is a more stable person as a result of his time in the South, not only in being away from Tevinter and his family, but also in forming friendships with those outside of Tevinter, and possibly a very close friendship or romantic relationship with the Inquisitor. I find it significant that, regardless of friend or romance, Dorian respects and admires the Inquisitor, and takes inspiration from him. Those are healthy things to feel from and for someone.

 

He may miss the Inquisitor, but I think he's going to be fine.

[Sifr]

Yeah, I think that being in the South was definitely a good experience for Dorian, especially since it gave him a chance to meet and befriend people that he'd probably never have been able to if he'd remained back home.

 

Given how Elves are treated in the Imperium, as slaves, servants or second class citizens at best, even someone who thumbs his nose at Tevinter society as much as Dorian probably didn't have much chance to befriend many elves before he arrived in the South.

 

Dorian also lets slip on several occasions that while Spirit summoning is not unheard of in the Imperium, none are allowed to roam around unbound and tend to be treated as nothing more than slaves, pets or idle curiosities.

 

Tevinters also don't tend to have any kind of interaction with Qunari or Tal-Vashoth that doesn't involve fear, suspicion and bloodshed. And while I don't think that Dorian is in any way, shape or form prejudiced against Qunari - especially not given he enjoys fantasising about being kidnapped by burly Qunari pirates and potentially hooking up with Bull or Adaar - we do see signs in their dialogue and banter that does come across as him being slightly wary around them at first.

 

(I suspect it's more based more in concern that their people's turbulent history might spill over and cause problems between them, rather than Dorian having any negative prejudices against Qunari. He admits to Bull his confusion over the lack of suspicion and hostility Bull has shown him, despite them technically being enemies as a Vint and Bull being a spy for the Qun. His attempt to bury the hatchet with Adaar regarding the matter also seems rooted more in concern whether their backgrounds might potentially affect their relationship, despite Adaar having no affiliation with the Qun that would have given them any reason to dislike him anyway?)

 

I've gone off on an overanalysing tangent again...

 

But yeah, my point was that his time in the South did wonders for Dorian and allowed him to make a wealth of friends and relationships with a variety of people from various cultures and backgrounds he'd never have made if he'd stayed home.

 

Whether romanced or otherwise, you really do get the sense in Trespasser that his relationship with the Inquisitor means the world to Dorian and he has come to consider them one of the greatest friends he's ever had.

[WulvenWanderer]

So I really like Dorian, and am trying to figure out when for sure his romance locks. Canonwise, I feel like Cassandra gets the romance stick, but just in case, I kind of want a save right before locking with Dorian. When exactly does that occur?

Can I safely kiss him after meeting his dad?

[nightscrawl]

I'm not too sure I understand your question... you want to kiss Dorian, but still do the romance lock-in with Cassandra? I don't really see the point... but fine. Yes, you should be able to take that path.

 

It can play out one of two ways:

1 After the tavern, if you select the option in that scene, the Inquisitor will initiate a kiss.

2 There is an alternate scene that you can have instead. If you do NOT take the flirt option from 1, pick "I think you're brave," and you will get an alternate kiss scene where Dorian initiates in the following Giselle conversation. If you take this path, you have to confirm again, after the conversation, that you want to start a romance.

 

You should know that if you take it that far that his romance quest will trigger, given by a messenger in Solas's area in the tower. After the romance quest then you get the quarters scene where you can have (or turn down, but still have a romance) sex, or refuse him completely. This is the romance lock-in.

 

There is also an option to break up with him afterward.

 

BUT I will say that I don't have any experience with trying to romance more than one person at a time. I don't know what the path for Cassandra's romance is. If you are too far along with Cassandra, if you try something with Dorian he will actually suggest that you get back to him after resolving any loose ends with other people; he doesn't want any confusion or bad feelings. I'm sure Cassandra likely has something similar.

[Arlee]

BUT I will say that I don't have any experience with trying to romance more than one person at a time. I don't know what the path for Cassandra's romance is. If you are too far along with Cassandra, if you try something with Dorian he will actually suggest that you get back to him after resolving any loose ends with other people; he doesn't want any confusion or bad feelings. I'm sure Cassandra likely has something similar.

 

Yea, Cassandra gets sort of cutely jealous though she tries to pretend she isn't. Either way you have to end things completely with one before going to the other and I'm pretty sure you can't go back to the original one ie Dorian, do things with Cass, and then back to Dorian or the reverse.

[nightscrawl]

Hello all - just posting about this in here in case anyone would like to contribute! I'm putting together a scrapbook of fan content celebrating the Dorian/Inquisitor romance to give to BioWare as a thank you. If you have art, pics, letters, notes, messages or similar you would like to contribute, please send it to operationamatus(at)gmail.com! The original post with full details is here.

In case anyone was curious about this, Madzilla did make the book and handed it off to Mike Laidlaw, who tweeted about receiving it. You can view info about it here.

[catabuca]

Some pictures for you lovely people:

 

 

 

 

 

[catabuca]

One more:

 

 

Dorian seems to suit the lighting in Crestwood really well. Looking forward to The Fallow Mire.

[nightscrawl]

Nighttime Crestwood is a favorite of mine, to be sure.