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#201
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Probably some sort of "First Enchanter" type spec ala Merrill's "Dalish Pariah" spec.  What that would entail, I'm not sure.  Anyhow, we should probably get back to talking about "Dorian."  Sorry, but DHMG doesn't really roll off the tongue well and he seems to be the most likely candidate for that companion.  All future posts about him I'll be calling him Dorian.  Fan nickname or not, I think it suits the images of him.

 

How about "John". "John Doe" lol :P



#202
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Edit: AHHH! Tevinter batlemage picture ninja'd!  :lol:

 

 

 

People have speculated this, yes.

 

Specifically, we have concept art from World of Thedas that suggest Tevinter battlemasters use swords in battle - but I suspect that Dramatic Hands Guy would need a staff too.

 

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You know, going a bit out off topic, on the sword hilt, is that a depiction of Archon Hessarian, The current Archon, or Thalsian, who first learned blood magic, seemingly from Dumat?

 

Now back on topic, stellar eye on the "Chains" and "Surrender" concept art. Is he a companion, a guide, an emissary representing a group that joins up with the Inquisition, it's very interesting to see the things other fans can find and speculate about.



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Wuuuuuh, I know this is off-topic for this thread, but I completed my (female) Jedi Knight playthrough and never ever noticed that happening. I just googled it and couldn't find anything, either. Are you sure? How could I miss something like that! :lol:

 

 

I wish I was kidding.  I got to that (it's ~level 25-30 or so) and rolled a guy.  Stripped her stuff and deleted the character.  I liked Kira more anyway.

 

As for DHMG, I'm going to weigh in and say I think he's a mage, too. And I think this because the concept of the Dorian character has been my most favoritest since I read about him. I know, not a good idea to cling to an idea that could very well have been scrapped long ago. So I think DHMG is Dorian. Because I want him to be.  ^_^

 

It could have been scrapped, but I really hope not.  The thought of meeting a nice Tevinter magister in the games would be welcome, especially since Mae couldn't be included at this time.  Too late in development for them to add her.  However, just like with a Templar viewpoint, a Tevinter companion that isn't Fenris might be able to give us more of an idea of what that society is really like.  Not just from more of an outside view like Fenris or Fenyriel but a real window into that culture.


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I wish I was kidding.  I got to that (it's ~level 25-30 or so) and rolled a guy.  Stripped her stuff and deleted the character.  I liked Kira more anyway.

 

It could have been scrapped, but I really hope not.  The thought of meeting a nice Tevinter magister in the games would be welcome, especially since Mae couldn't be included at this time.  Too late in development for them to add her.  However, just like with a Templar viewpoint, a Tevinter companion that isn't Fenris might be able to give us more of an idea of what that society is really like.  Not just from more of an outside view like Fenris or Fenyriel but a real window into that culture.

 

Huh. Yeah, my character is female, end-game, romanced Doc, but I don't ever remember that happening. Does it happen no matter what? Maybe I'll youtube the romance; it was long enough ago that all I remembered was that I enjoyed it.

 

Although, yeah, I was pretty sad I couldn't romance Kira with a female Jedi. I just . . . I think the only character I liked more than Kira (so far, out of the companions I'm familiar with) is Malavai Quinn.

 

I really hope not, too! A "brazen and clever" rogue magister is just . . . super interesting to me. And I'd really, really like to have an All Mage All the Time party.

 

Not that DHMG will be uninteresting otherwise! He looks entertaining regardless.



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Fingers crossed for Moustachio being a companion.



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Too bad. I'd love a Red vs Blue Doc character as our medic. 

 

He was only amusing when he was possessed via Omega.



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Wuuuuuh, I know this is off-topic for this thread, but I completed my (female) Jedi Knight playthrough and never ever noticed that happening. I just googled it and couldn't find anything, either. Are you sure? How could I miss something like that! :lol:

 

As for DHMG, I'm going to weigh in and say I think he's a mage, too. And I think this because the concept of the Dorian character has been my most favoritest since I read about him. I know, not a good idea to cling to an idea that could very well have been scrapped long ago. So I think DHMG is Dorian. Because I want him to be. ^_^

 

Doc doesn't cheat on your Jedi Knight, even if you put the kibosh on the relationship straight away. He doesn't even flirt with Kira the way he does with if you're a male knight. He has two interactions with ex-girlfriends, but one is via holoterminal and the other takes place on camera, in front of the Knight, and neither is in anyway romantic or sexual.

 

Doc is the worst (there's a reason why this is his tag on tumblr), but it's not because he cheats. All this being said, I want this mustachio'd dude to be in the game because he seems like someone I would love- like a big budget version of Awakening Anders, minus the Circle-induced PTSD and plus ridiculous facial hair. Also, I'm gonna call him "Dorian" no matter the lack of proof and, in Surely Land, he is definitely a companion.  


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Whoa. Trying to reply lead to some serious formatting problems.

 

In response to SurelyForth:

 

I just rewatched the entire romance, and I didn't see any "cheating." And I didn't remember it, either. Although now, more than a year after playing my JK, he is really, really creepy. Like, the more he talked the more uncomfortable I got. I guess I didn't notice it the first time through, for whatever reason.
 

ANYWAY, I'm right there with you; I think he's Dorian (and a companion) mostly because I Want It. And on the off-chance DHMG actually is Dorian, and a companion, he's earned a permanent slot in my party, forever.


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Ugh. While he doesn't cheat on your Knight, Doc still parades exes in front of her and gets all upset if you call him out on it. Then he goes and acts like nothing happened for awhile. Then he pulls a Barney and comes back and is all, "I decided to let you marry me".

 

I am sure they meant for all of it to come across as charming. But I just wanted to throw him out the air lock and romance the Sith instead.



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I do think we'll learn about who "Dorian" is before the game ships. It's the mysterious ninth companion, presumably the third rogue, who I think is being obscured. But DHMG has appeared in a lot of art and there's nothing really mysterious or special about him.

 

I think he'll be the last (second last including the one who might remain a mystery?) companion revealed, though. I think we're likely to hear about Feathers before Dorian.



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Ugh. While he doesn't cheat on your Knight, Doc still parades exes in front of her and gets all upset if you call him out on it. Then he goes and acts like nothing happened for awhile. Then he pulls a Barney and comes back and is all, "I decided to let you marry me".

 

I am sure they meant for all of it to come across as charming. But I just wanted to throw him out the air lock and romance the Sith instead.

Trust me, the lady Sith LI will have you wanting to punt him out of the airlock too.  He just isn't as "Leisure Suit Larry" about the matter.  I could have sworn Doc cheated on my Jedi, but admittedly it's been quite awhile since I played SWTOR.

 

Back on topic, I'm still rooting for DHMG to be Dorian. :D

 

@Rubios He was a great friend as a male Jedi, but he is such a slimeball to the female one.  



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Trust me, the lady Sith LI will have you wanting to punt him out of the airlock too.  He just isn't as "Leisure Suit Larry" about the matter.  I could have sworn Doc cheated on my Jedi, but admittedly it's been quite awhile since I played SWTOR.

 

Back on topic, I'm still rooting for DHMG to be Dorian. :D

 

@Rubios He was a great friend as a male Jedi, but he is such a slimeball to the female one.  

Naw, it was just Doc being Doc to an ex (she was implying that she wanted sexy times and he doesn't say no or turn her down) right in front of the PC and then being all "Whaaaaaaat? You're upset I was flirting with an ex on your ship, right in front of you? Well... I can't help it if all the ladies want me."

 

Icing on the cake was that it was the companion for the Bounty Hunter who was his ex. O_o

 

Anyways, worst romance, EVER.

 

*coughs* I sure do hope any possible romance with DHMG is better.



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I like his character design from those images more than a couple other characters we've seen and 'seen'



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Is this our boy? Standing over the chains?

 

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Is this our boy? Standing over the chains?

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The link doesn't work but if you are referring to the giant chain concept art then yes, looks like him.



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The link doesn't work but I know what concept art are you referring to and yes, looks like him.

Weird. Works on my page. =( Only to break when I reloaded... odd... tried a different link.


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I admit, I'm really curious who this guy is.

 

I lean toward the "arcane warrior" theory, which would mean he's most likely Dorian.  However, he could also be Rhys or an unknown chevalier... or one of our advisors/Seneschal.  He's not happy about the Inquisitor messing up his map, after all.

 

Could be very fun if he's always dramatic as his art suggests.



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I admit, I'm really curious who this guy is.

 

I lean toward the "arcane warrior" theory, which would mean he's most likely Dorian.  However, he could also be Rhys or an unknown chevalier... or one of our advisors/Seneschal.  He's not happy about the Inquisitor messing up his map, after all.

 

Could be very fun if he's always dramatic as his art suggests.

Aren't they still up in the air about even having the arcane warrior class back?

 

Unless, of course, they're keeping mum about it to keep DHMG a secret.



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Aren't they still up in the air about even having the arcane warrior class back?

 

Unless, of course, they're keeping mum about it to keep DHMG a secret.

 

That I don't know.  I miss Arcane Warrior specialization though... of course, just because he could be one doesn't mean we could join him in it.  We may not be able to unlock specs anymore.

 

His facial hair screams "Orlais" while his lack of a mask suggests otherwise... yes, Dramatic Hands is a fascinating creature.



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His facial hair screams "Orlais" while his lack of a mask suggests otherwise... yes, Dramatic Hands is a fascinating creature.

 

The picture I posted before (which looks *incredibly* like DHMG) was of a 19th-century French dandy, Robert de Montesquiou, so you may be right, but I don't think either his or DHMG's art styles are quite as outrageous as Vivienne's. Orlais doesn't necessarily have a monopoly on crazy facial hair :P

 

It might be a convoluted theory, but *if* DHMG is Dorian, I get the sense they might be going for some kind of late-Victorian aristocrat vibe for the character. His name is most likely a reference to the Oscar Wilde novel, and Dorian Gray is now a byword for hedonism, vanity and wit. His last name in the survey is Latin/Tevinter for 'peacock', which does suit the flashy archetype of dandies in the late 1800s. If DHMG/Dorian is a magister that fits the aristocratic part, and we've seen other Tevinter characters like Maevaris who enjoy using wit against their friends and enemies. David said some of the writers imagined DHMG saying "That. is. mahogany!!" in the War Room scene as the Inquisitor stabs the table, which kinda suggests someone who appreciates the finer things in life. Or someone who notices the destruction of something rare/beautiful/valuable like that desk, and not why the Inquisitor was stabbing it.

 

(One of Wilde's last poems, too, contains a line about outcasts that is actually on his gravestone - and Dorian is an outcast, in the literal sense, from Tevinter.)

 

The French dandy in that painting was supposedly an inspiration for some of Proust's writing and possibly adapted as the main character in the novel À rebours, which charted the life of a decadent aesthete who retreats from the world in disgust as its flaws. The novel was subtly referenced in Wilde's story of Dorian Gray as the inspiration for his hedonistic lifestyle, which indirectly ties the man in this painting to Wilde's Dorian.

 

In fact, the picture is *so* much like the character concept in the War Room art (even with the colour scheme and the collar on DHMG's shirt) that I wonder if they didn't actually use this as inspiration.

 

255px-Montesquiou%2C_Robert_de_-_Boldini


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#222
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@ElitePinecone I can't like your post enough <3 <3



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Come on Bioware, release some info on the guy



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just curious, but why do so many people think he might be a chevalier??

 

I'm not saying anyone is wrong, it's just I don't get that vibe when I look at him, he seems a bit light on the armour side of things for a chevalier IMO.



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Someone said spears were a specialty of the chevalier. I don't know if that's true, though? I don't remember much about chevaliers.