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[franciscoamell]

Oh shut up, you old hag. Just switch testicles for ovaries lol

Ouch.

[Hellion Rex]

Ouch.

I speak nothing but the truth lol

[MattH]

''Darling, you could never pull that off''

[BioFan (Official)]

I'll just slip this in:


http://shallowgraves...he-last-supper/

[Kamina]

Is destroying a town with fire something Dorian would want to do?

I just hope he's not a crazy mage like Anders... I only have room to love one of those.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I wouldn't be surprised if he were the type to take the pragmatic route in things. If he's going to be Dorian from the survey, I don't think he'd malevolently want to burn a town to the ground. If the option were like Awakening, for example, save the keep or save the town, I could see him siding with saving our own assets. Or if it were like, the red templar town that had been forced into slavery. If there was an option to save the "slaves" at great risk, or wipe everyone out somehow from a distance, he might not want to take the risky approach. He is from Tevinter, after all. He's probably not totally self sacrificing. 

 

I'm also not sure all these are exactly accurate portrayals, though. I mean, if everyone actually resembles a Biblical person, that seems like something they probably planned for early on. I don't necessarily think it's going to be that specific.   

[MattH]

It doesn't sound like his leaked description...but obviously that could have changed.

[Hellion Rex]

YES MATTH, YES!!!!!!

[Gikia-Kimikia]

Hmm... if Dorian IS a counterpart of James, Son of Zebedee, it's important to remember a couple more details.

1) James was John's (older) brother, and together they were called the Sons of Thunder by Jesus because
2) They both had very short tempers where defiance against and rejection of Jesus was concerned, which is why they BOTH told Jesus to call fire down on that village. (This would implicate Cassandra in that sort of pragmatism/ruthlessness too.)
3) They were also bold enough to go up to Jesus and straight up ASK to sit on the right and left of his throne in heaven.
4) James was part of Jesus' "Inner Circle" along with John and Peter, the disciples of his with whom he was closest, and
5) He was the first disciple martyred following Jesus' death, perhaps a dozen years after the fact.

[Edit: I should probably mention that Andrew, Peter's brother, is occasionally called the fourth member of the Inner Circle, not as close as the other three but definitely one of his closest. This places Varric as another important companion, it seems.]

And once again, I can't believe I'm actually making use of those 13 years of forced Theology courses... on BSN. Life thinks it's a comedian.

[Wolfen09]

yep, its good to be atheist after 16 years of catholicism

[byeshoe]

Hmm... if Dorian IS a counterpart of James, Son of Zebedee, it's important to remember a couple more details.

1) James was John's (older) brother, and together they were called the Sons of Thunder by Jesus because
2) They both had very short tempers where defiance against and rejection of Jesus was concerned, which is why they BOTH told Jesus to call fire down on that village. (This would implicate Cassandra in that sort of pragmatism/ruthlessness too.)
3) They were also bold enough to go up to Jesus and straight up ASK to sit on the right and left of his throne in heaven.
4) James was part of Jesus' "Inner Circle" along with John and Peter, the disciples of his with whom he was closest, and
5) He was the first disciple martyred following Jesus' death, perhaps a dozen years after the fact.

And once again, I can't believe I'm actually making use of those 13 years of forced Theology courses on BSN. Life thinks it's a comedian.

Hooly smokes. I swear if this last supper thing actually has meaning... XD
hear me out guys. If Solas is a romance, then the "Inner Circle" which is "James, Peter and John" (Dorian, Solas, Cassandra) are some of our romance choices, (likely the main choices) which means that these people will trust the Inquisitor the most.

Since Dorian is from Tevinter and we've all heard some pretty bad stories about that place, he just might be the less trusted one from the companions side, and as Former Fiend said in the Solas thread, he will be the odd mage out.  Giki, that extra description is actually interesting 

[Ymirr]

''Darling, you could never pull that off''

Finally!! I was about to ask you where it had gone. *grabby hands* 

[Ymirr]

Dancing, nude as it always should be.

 

 

By Biotic

[ElitePinecone]

Why on earth are people making biblical comparisons?

 

That's absurd. 

 

You think they'll restrict themselves to writing every companion like an apostle or something?

[mlgumm]

I've been saying that the Last Supper arrangement was just to get them all together in a cool looking shot for weeks, but no one listens.

[The Elder King]

Why on earth are people making biblical comparisons?
 
That's absurd. 
 
You think they'll restrict themselves to writing every companion like an apostle or something?

They're making the comparison because the characters in that scene are positioned in a similar way of the Last Supper painting.
Nobody is saying that those characters will act like the Inquisitor's apostles, or that they'll be similar to them; I certainly don't think that. Some of them are, howewer, accurate, like the Varric one, since Andrew was a storyteller.
I couldn't care less about the comparison, but I don't see why people shouldn't do those. I doubt that the devs didn't think that people would compare that last Shot to the Last Supper.

[The Elder King]

I've been saying that the Last Supper arrangement was just to get them all together in a cool looking shot for weeks, but no one listens.

That's false. There are plently of people who share your view.
I honestly don't care why they arrange them in that way, but it doesn't change the fact that some of the comparison could be accurate. Varric's is.
It's not like people are expecting the comparison to be true. They're just having fun.

[ElitePinecone]

They're making the comparison because the characters in that scene are positioned in a similar way of the Last Supper painting.
Nobody is saying that those characters will act like the Inquisitor's apostles, or that they'll be similar to them; I certainly don't think that. Some of them are, howewer, accurate, like the Varric one, since Andrew was a storyteller.
I couldn't care less about the comparison, but I don't see why people shouldn't do those. I doubt that the devs didn't think that people would compare that last Shot to the Last Supper.

 

Speculation is fine, but so is calling that speculation ridiculous. The idea that a company would lift an entire scenario from the Bible and write every character in it like their biblical counterpart is silly. The Last Supper is useful visual symbolism, nothing more.

 

This sort of thing takes vague "often associated with X" lines and stretches them as far as possible to draw some sort of connection with every single companion, which is practically the definition of reading too much into things. Why should this analysis be any more credible than any other theory floating around about the characters? And why would we seriously debate it, when there's literally zero evidence that any of the companions are meant to be linked to apostles?

 

I get that people are mining everything for information and speculating about connections, but there's a huge difference between sensible theories and nonsense.

[Ymirr]

Why on earth are people making biblical comparisons?

 

That's absurd. 

 

You think they'll restrict themselves to writing every companion like an apostle or something?

I doubt they wrote the characters to fit the apostles, but I don't think it's far fetched that they lined up the characters with apostles that had elements matching the companions. Some might not have anything in common with any apostles.

[Wolfen09]

i think it has nothing to do with the last supper or anything biblical....  in fact i think it has more of a legion of doom feel to it

[The Elder King]

Speculation is fine, but so is calling that speculation ridiculous. The idea that a company would lift an entire scenario from the Bible and write every character in it like their biblical counterpart is silly. The Last Supper is useful visual symbolism, nothing more.
 
This sort of thing takes vague "often associated with X" lines and stretches them as far as possible to draw some sort of connection with every single companion, which is practically the definition of reading too much into things. Why should this analysis be any more credible than any other theory floating around about the characters? And why would we seriously debate it, when there's literally zero evidence that any of the companions are meant to be linked to apostles?
 
I get that people are mining everything for information and speculating about connections, but there's a huge difference between sensible theories and nonsense.

As far as I know most of the people here is using the Last Supper comparison as sensibile evidence for characters' personalities and roles, bt just for fun (well, with the possible exception of the traitor role). And I'm not saying that we should seriously debate it as in believing that the comparison holds a real relevance. That doesn't mean it can't be a fun thing to discuss. As I said I don't believe the comparison holds a real relevance, but at least some characters were placed intentionally in those position.
What prompted my response was that it seems you were seriously pissed about the comparison.

[The Elder King]

i think it has nothing to do with the last supper or anything biblical....  in fact i think it has more of a legion of doom feel to it

Some characters fit their biblical counterpart in some way. Though I believe that Bioware's intention was just to cause discussion about it.
Regardless of the comparison I loved the Shot and want Quizzy said, and that's all that matters to me.

[Former_Fiend]

 

Carry on.

[ElitePinecone]

What prompted my response was that it seems you were seriously pissed about the comparison.

 

I don't really like any situation where speculation runs off into the sunset cackling wildly with no basis in reality - more so when people are inclined to actually believe it.

[Wolfen09]

so, in terms of rank the inquisitor would be lex luthor, but for looks it goes to solas...  iron bull would have to be solomon grundy, although i wish cullen would fit that bill, vivene could be that stingray guy, cause the funky head gear, dhmg gets to be sinestro the yellow lantern dude, i guess cullen or the inquisitor could be bizaro superman