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[Mockingword]

wait, condoleezza rice is in this game?

*eternal mean-spirited cackling*

[Ymirr]

Was wondering in regards to Dorian. Is he an outcast in the sense that he is thrown out of Tevinter, or that he doesn't fit in. Since they write "is a magister" and not "was." And how would he rid his homeland of anything if not allowed to enter.

[Wulfram]

Was wondering in regards to Dorian. Is he an outcast in the sense that he is thrown out of Tevinter, or that he doesn't fit in. Since they write "is a magister" and not "was." And how would he rid his homeland of anything if not allowed to enter.

 

Might be an unofficial exile - he's not guilty of any sort of crime and thus retains his rank, but he's got enough enemies that sticking around would be unwise.

[Ymirr]

Isn't Magisters a governing body? Going into exile would mean he's no longer one.

[Wulfram]

My assumption is that it's a lifetime that grants the right to sit on the legislature, so you wouldn't lose it just because you're not present.  Like being a member of the House of Lords.

 

Danarius was certainly able to travel.

 

Unless you were holding it by virtue of being appointed by a Circle, perhaps.

[Ymirr]

You're not born into the title, so I figure you can loose it as well. Travelling is a bit different from exile, the first means you'll come back to do your job. 

[Hellion Rex]

Isn't Magisters a governing body? Going into exile would mean he's no longer one.

The Magisterium is indeed the governing body of Tevinter, so him being an exile would have stripped him of his status.

[Wulfram]

You're not born into the title, so I figure you can loose it as well. Travelling is a bit different from exile, the first means you'll come back to do your job. 

 

The Wiki says that it can be passed on to your heir

[Ymirr]

The Wiki says that it can be passed on to your heir

Can be passed on, but you're still not born into it as a king is.

[ElitePinecone]

Isn't Magisters a governing body? Going into exile would mean he's no longer one.

 

We should remember that this was written as a 50-word marketing brief. 

 

Even if he's no longer a member of the Imperial Senate, would the rest of Thedas see him as a magister? Is there another way to describe a poweful mage from Tevinter that captures the same feelings and meaning that "magister" does? 

 

Are we taking "magister" to describe a power or status level in Tevinter, or in the literal/legal sense of being a member of the magisterium? Can an exiled magister remain a magister in every sense of the word but the official one?

 

If they're trying to get across the main essence of a character in as few words as possible, "Tevinter magister" is pretty effective and interesting - even if it's not entirely correct, it captures people's attention a lot better than most of the alternatives.

[Ymirr]

Sure, but would it really diminish the impact that much to say "was" a Magister instead of "is". The magical powers hasn't dissipated because of removal of the title. From what we've seen and heard of them, it's like a stigma, "was"=just as bad as "is".

 

But question was, is he still?

[ElitePinecone]

You'd have to think any ruling group wouldn't look kindly on someone who wants to destroy them, I suppose.

[Nocte ad Mortem]

Well, we've also seen implications that there could be quite a few Tevinter based enemies planned for Inquisition and the Venatori faction look to be Tevinter. I don't know what they're doing hanging around the area, but I think Dorian could be there for an opposing reason. It's possible we just don't know enough about Inquisition yet to understand what his motives are for being in the area.   

[Ymirr]

You'd have to think any ruling group wouldn't look kindly on someone who wants to destroy them, I suppose.

Does he though? We don't really know what this corruption is.

[ElitePinecone]

Does he though? We don't really know what this corruption is.

 

Again, I think it's best not to read too much into the literal words of the marketing bio. "Corruption" is a poetic way of meaning whatever bad thing the author wants it to mean.

 

He's an outcast, waging some kind of campaign, delights in not being what we'd expect from a typical magister and is clearly outside Tevinter.

 

He's an obvious tie into the Venatori plot, and that faction seems like a pretty standard caricature of evil irrational cultists.

 

I think it's impossible to tell more about the character from that one bio - we're guessing half the stuff anyway, and the nature of his conflict with Tevinter might have to wait until the game.

[Ymirr]

Again, I think it's best not to read too much into the literal words of the marketing bio. "Corruption" is a poetic way of meaning whatever bad thing the author wants it to mean.

 

 

I think it's impossible to tell more about the character from that one bio - we're guessing half the stuff anyway, and the nature of his conflict with Tevinter might have to wait until the game.

 

I keep mixing you up with Elu.. Anyway, speculating is all we do, and might be all we can do up until the game, and seeing as how quiet it was here I figured speculating some more wouldn't hurt.

[Karm]

I keep mixing you up with Elu.

 

You are definitely not the only one there

[Ymirr]

You are definitely not the only one there

I didn't notice until that reply, I'm a rather daft person sometimes.

[feainn]

 

Found this while on Tumblr. Definitely looks like our guy. And with a tentacle to boot. 

[Nocte ad Mortem]

It looks like a snake, to me. lol  

[feainn]

They look like suction cups octopuses have. Unless it's those serpents/dragons we've spotted on his robes?

[Nocte ad Mortem]

I can see how you would think suction cups, but to me it looks like the pattern a lot of boas have, the spotted pattern. 

[Uirebhiril]

He kind of resembles Omar Sharif.

 

And it does look more like an octopus to me. To my mind "serpent" is things like vipers or cobras when it comes to symbolism, not a fairly fat and lazy boa.

[SurelyForth]

That looks like the Hierophant pose, which would indicate that his purpose is spiritual in nature (I think- it's been a looooooong time since I read anything about the tarot, and I don't want to do a Google crash course and get stuff wrong). 

 

I don't think there's a snake typically involved on the Hierophant card, however. I can't help but wonder how we're supposed to interpret that (my mind immediately went to Satan tempting Eve in the Garden of Eden). 

 

It looks more like a tentacle to me, now. Still not a typical motif, I don't think.

[feainn]

That looks like the Hierophant pose

It really does...