So I'm doing another playthrough of the series and just began with ME3, this time having every single DLC available (my last but old playthrough didn't have Leviathan, Citadel and Omega). So now I'm wondering, what is the most popular order to play through all the contents canon-wise, for the full and complete experience?
Best DLC Canon Order?
#1
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 10:28
#2
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 10:37
It's somewhat subjective.
Get Javik post-Palaven.
Omega post-Citadel II.
I like to breakup Leviathan as filler throughout game. Like meet with Bryson early, find Garneau after Omega, Rescue Ann prior to Rannoch, and wrap it up post-Rannoch.
Citadel DLC after Thessia cause Shep is hurting and needs a break.
#4
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 11:33
If you're starting a new Shepard, I like to do From Ashes before Palaven just so I can equip James and Garrus with the Particle Rifle (I don't like paying for extra weapons).
I also like to break up Leviathan across the game, usually in pairs of Bryson's Lab then the quest that visit facilitates.
I like to get the weapon mods from Omega ASAP, but I agree that it seems to fit best immediately post-coup.
As far as Citadel goes, I prefer to do the main story portion of it immediately after the Rannoch arc is completed because the whole squad is finally available plus the firefights that the Normandy goes through then would seem to call for some refitting. This has the added bonus of being able to spread the squadmate meetups throughout the rest of the game.
The Citadel party still goes right before Cerberus HQ. Unless that particular Shepard is romancing Jack. Then the party happens post-Destroy.
#5
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 11:36
Then the party happens post-Destroy.
Except it doesn't.
#6
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 12:17
For me
From Ashes after the coup when I have Ashley/Kaidan on the squad and if your ems is high enough Javik has a different line of dialogue
Omega after the coup
Leviathan after Thessia or after the Monestary mission
Citadel after Horizon
#7
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 02:48
I usually do From Ashes' Eden Prime mission right before or right after going to Palaven. Cerberus already caused plenty of trouble on Mars, and given the danger they pose to the colony and the fact that they reportedly have a prothean artifact, I figure Shepard would want to get to it sooner than later. And, speaking OOC, I prefer to bring Javik on board earlier to have him as a squadmate option and start unlocking his interactions with the rest of the crew.
Not all my Shepards do Omega, but in between the coup attempt and Rannoch seems logical to me, in that taking away a critical Cerberus base of operations would seem even more important.
For Leviathan, I do most of it between the coup and Rannoch, but then stop after Ann Bryson briefly channels the Leviathan and warns that it wants to kill Shepard. Then I go back and do the final mission after Thessia - the Prothean VI dialogue on Thessia feels "off" if Leviathan is already complete, in that it seems to be telling Shepard things that (s)he already knows. My IC reasoning is that after Bryson's warning, Shepard is starting to think Leviathan may be more trouble than it's worth, but then after Thessia (s)he's desperate for anything that could possibly help.
Citadel, if I do it as part of the main game, probably also comes between the coup and Rannoch, just because the unlocking of new missions and the accompanying sense of urgency once the Rannoch sequence gets going precludes the crew taking a break. That leaves Miranda and Tali out of the party, but it's pretty much the only way I can have it make narrative sense. I think I prefer doing it after the main game as a sort of alternate reality, though. And if you pick Control, you can imagine it as AI-Shepard getting nostalgic for being human and running it as a sort of "holodeck simulation" for itself. ![]()
#8
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 02:50
And if you pick Control, you can imagine it as AI-Shepard getting nostalgic for being human and running it as a sort of "holodeck simulation" for itself.
(To clarify, I still think AI-Shepard and Shepard are two different entities, and that AI-Shepard is not the literal continuation of Shepard's life, but it presumably has Shepard's memories and might at least be interested in what it was like to be a corporeal human being.)
- Hadeedak aime ceci
#9
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 03:33
Psychevore: Have the party once everyone's available...thought that was a given;)
#10
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 04:35
I've always done:
From Ashes post Palaven
Omega post Citadel coup
Leviathan post Rannoch arc (although due to dialogue errors on Thessia it might be better doing it after Thessia)
Citadel right before Cronos Station
#11
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 05:35
It's somewhat subjective.
Get Javik post-Palaven.
Omega post-Citadel II.
I like to breakup Leviathan as filler throughout game. Like meet with Bryson early, find Garneau after Omega, Rescue Ann prior to Rannoch, and wrap it up post-Rannoch.
Citadel DLC after Thessia cause Shep is hurting and needs a break.
Pretty much nailed it, however I will expand just a bit:
I break up Citadel, usually doing the campaign portion post-Rannoch, sprinkling in the companion side-missions as I finish up other main storyline missions, then making the party the last thing I do before Cerberus HQ and the point of no return.
I know the timing might seem strange to some (taking a break to party as things get more and more desperate in the war), but to me, it just feels right to make the party the last thing the crew does before "the end", so to speak.
#12
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 05:37
From Ashes
Palaven
Scanning/Side Quests
Omega
Genophage Start
Side Quests
Genophage End
Coup
Scanning/Side Quests
Rannoch
Side Quests/Especially Ardot-Yakshi to introduce Banshees
Leviathan
Scanning/Side Quests
Thessia
Sanctuary
Scanning/Side Quests
Citadel DLC
Minuteman Station
Take Back Earth
There you go, the perfect playthru order
#13
Posté 17 mars 2014 - 09:54
The Citadel party still goes right before Cerberus HQ. Unless that particular Shepard is romancing Jack. Then the party happens post-Destroy.
Except it doesn't.
At the risk of feeding the troll, the ONLY scenario where I entertain the idea of Shepard surviving Destroy is with Jack's Citadel romance content.
#14
Posté 18 mars 2014 - 01:37
At the risk of feeding the troll, the ONLY scenario where I entertain the idea of Shepard surviving Destroy is with Jack's Citadel romance content.
It certainly would make a nice scene.
- NeroonWilliams aime ceci
#15
Posté 22 mars 2014 - 11:10
Hey, it's OP again. Thanks alot for the feedback so far! But now that I've finally started playing, I got a few questions:
1: What're the differences between doing From Ashes before or after Priority: Palaven?
2: What's the difference in breaking up the Leviathan storyline in stages along the main story than doing it wholethrough?
3: Suppose I was to do the Citadel storyline before Sanctuary (without telling too much spoilers) and save the Party right before Cronos, how much would had Miranda be contributing if she was present, compared to post-Sanctuary? Would it had been better in general to save the entire Citadel DLC content for post-Sanctuary for full experience?
#16
Posté 22 mars 2014 - 11:52
Hey, it's OP again. Thanks alot for the feedback so far! But now that I've finally started playing, I got a few questions:
1: What're the differences between doing From Ashes before or after Priority: Palaven?
2: What's the difference in breaking up the Leviathan storyline in stages along the main story than doing it wholethrough?
3: Suppose I was to do the Citadel storyline before Sanctuary (without telling too much spoilers) and save the Party right before Cronos, how much would had Miranda be contributing if she was present, compared to post-Sanctuary? Would it had been better in general to save the entire Citadel DLC content for post-Sanctuary for full experience?
1: you get the particle rifle before or after Palavan
2: nothing, I suppose.
3: I usually do the Citadel story as soon as possible to get the Lancer. Then save the party for post-Sanctuary.
#17
Posté 22 mars 2014 - 11:54
From Ashes is really interesting if you do as the last mission because the dialogue is quite different and you can take Tali, Kaidan or Ash. However, I do tend to do it as soon as I first leave the Citadel, prior even to having Garrus back. Javik can not be brought to Palaven, however. It takes sometimes for the statis to come off. A sad escuse, because if you revive him after palaven there´s no one mission penality for him in order to recover, even though he actually spent more time on stasis than before. Go figure!
I do Omega after Priority Rannoch. So that Tali has more scenes aboard the normandy. BTW, it´s possible to do both the rachni mission and the turian bomb with her on the squad (on different plays, though), and even with kaidan or ash. They have very interesting talks after the bomb mission is completed. If you never tried it, it may be possible to watch on youtube.
Since the combat in the DLCs tends to be harder than in the main campaign, it´s a good idea to delay the mission on omega as well.
I also savor leviathan ( a DLC I actually quite enjoyed) for last, after Tessia has fallen so I can have Javik, Tali and the Virmire survivor.
As for Citadel, I always do it after Sanctuary in order to have Miss Lawson at my party celebration, since I like her just a little bit.
#18
Posté 22 mars 2014 - 12:36
"2: What's the difference in breaking up the Leviathan storyline in stages along the main story than doing it wholethrough?"
Minor differences if you star early. I would recommend to do it only after you have Tali installed on the engineer section (post Rannoc) so she has more lines.
Also, you should do it after Thesia (or the Monastery mission) so that the banshees are already known to the players (the squads make some comments).
Not only you have more characters commenting and being able to go on missions if you wait for later, but the DLC becomes easier since your level and weapons will be higher.
"Suppose I was to do the Citadel storyline before Sanctuary (without telling too much spoilers) and save the Party right before Cronos, how much would had Miranda be contributing if she was present, compared to post-Sanctuary? Would it had been better in general to save the entire Citadel DLC content for post-Sanctuary for full experience?"
Again, I suggest you save it for later. You can save the game just before inviting anyone and test the party with both miranda in or out. You decide who goes and who does not, aside from some core me3 members. The iterations can change quite a bit. If you have both Wrex and Ash, Kaidan and Vega, Miranda and Jack, Ash and Vega, for instance.
You can try the part without miranda if you do it later in game. But you can´t try the party with miranda if you do early.
#19
Posté 22 mars 2014 - 12:44
Hey, it's OP again. Thanks alot for the feedback so far! But now that I've finally started playing, I got a few questions:
1: What're the differences between doing From Ashes before or after Priority: Palaven?
2: What's the difference in breaking up the Leviathan storyline in stages along the main story than doing it wholethrough?
3: Suppose I was to do the Citadel storyline before Sanctuary (without telling too much spoilers) and save the Party right before Cronos, how much would had Miranda be contributing if she was present, compared to post-Sanctuary? Would it had been better in general to save the entire Citadel DLC content for post-Sanctuary for full experience?
1. Yeah, just the Particle Rifle. Javik can't join you on Menae.
2. Nothing really. Leviathan just happens to be a DLC that can actually be played almost "open world" style with its 6 missions that, while they must be played in order, can be interspersed throughout the game.
3. I don't believe it's TOO spoilery to tell you that no ME2 characters participate in the main story of Citadel DLC. They only play a role in the DLC post main story.
#20
Posté 23 mars 2014 - 04:37
I like doing Leviathan early, at least the first part to save me time planet scanning. A few clusters have additional systems added after the first part of Leviathan, and it saves time having not to go back twice to these systems.
#21
Posté 23 mars 2014 - 05:29
When doing the missions for story I always do them based on the enemies I had previously encountered in the vanilla game. So for From Ashes which has an Atlas I wait until I encounter the first Atlas on Sur'kesh. Leviathan usually gets pushed back until the monestary mission and the first Banshee encounter. However, I tend to make exceptions if I plan on using Javik or really desire a certain weapon mod.
#22
Posté 23 mars 2014 - 05:38
I generally do Leviathan and Citadel after I've got the whole team together (so after Ranonch). It spreads that part of the game out better. I don't do them in any particular order though, splitting them up with other missions. The plot part of Citadel happens straight after Rannoch, the party as late as possible (at least once I've done all the character sidemissions). Not got Omega. From Ashes works best if done very early so Javik is along for most of the ride. All IMO.
#23
Posté 23 mars 2014 - 06:30
I like doing From Ashes when you have Ashley/Kaidan with you. Since it's where you first met(and with extra dialogue), it just doesn't feel right not bringing them along.
#24
Posté 24 mars 2014 - 12:19
There are various options, based on how you want to play the game.
From Ashes:
1)If you want to optimize, then right after Mars (before Palaven) is best.
2)If you want to fit him in better, I'd do it more during a beak in the narrative. For example, right after Tuchanka but before Citadel Coup. Something like that. Also depends on how much you personally like Javik and how soon you want him.
Leviathan:
1)If you want to do it all at once, then the best spot is right after Rannoch and before Thessia.
2)If you want to spread it out..
-First mission after Asari Monastery (the first sighting of a Banshee)
-Second mission after Rannoch
-Third mission either right after the second, or after some Citadel DLC hijinks
I feel the 2nd and 3rd missions are more connected than the 1st and 2nd, so take that for what it is.
Omega:
1)If you want to optimize and think you're up for it, then do it ASAP from the Citadel.
2)If you want it to fit in better, it'll probably be good for either right after Citadel Coup, or right after Rannoch. Definitely before Thessia.
Citadel:
1)If you want to do it all at once, then the best spot is right before Cronos Station. Or maybe the story section before Thessia, but the visits/arena/party before Cronos Station. Keep in mind that the arena matches count as a mission, so check your mail in the apartment to see who wants to visit.
2)If you want to spread it out...
-Story missions before Thessia
-Rounds of arena, visits, activities after Thessia, and after Sanctuary
-The party as the LAST THING you ever do before Cronos Station. Consider it your 'end that isn't the end'.
I find it more appropriate to do Leviathan all at once, and Citadel more spread out.
Keep in mind that you can do Citadel DLC, like, right after the Citadel Coup. So that's there for optimization. However, doing so means that if Tali is in your game, she still won't be part of the story section of the DLC. Characters like Miranda, Jacob, Samara open up for visits as you do their main game missions though, so that's no biggie - it's just Tali that can get locked out based on Citadel DLC timing.
#25
Posté 24 mars 2014 - 12:24
When doing the missions for story I always do them based on the enemies I had previously encountered in the vanilla game. So for From Ashes which has an Atlas I wait until I encounter the first Atlas on Sur'kesh. Leviathan usually gets pushed back until the monestary mission and the first Banshee encounter. However, I tend to make exceptions if I plan on using Javik or really desire a certain weapon mod.
Yeah that's a good point about the Atlas. Timing-wise, doing From Ashes more right before/after the Citadel Coup might be the most appropriate. Javik may comment on things differently, and there are Atlases and Nemesis and Phantoms involved that we only really experience around Citadel Coup onward.
The downside is that you don't get Javik get to say post-mission stuff until then ![]()





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