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[Hellion Rex]

I have a sneaking suspicion of what happened with Briala, but I'm holding back my thoughts till release.

[wcholcombe]

That makes a lot of sense. Explains both individual acts og generosity and kindness, as well as their general cold distrust of strangers.

 

 

I don't think it will be that dramatic.

 

But I'm thinking about the supposed conference that was leaked in that survey, long ago. What if it wasn't a peace conference, but a conference to stop the Veil Tears? Many have assumed we'll see the Veil Tear crisis' beginning, but in DA:O the Blight had already started by the time Duncan recruited our Warden.

 

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If the Dalish are really seeking the Eluvians, their invitation to a conference against Veil Tears makes a lot of sense now, since they would bring a powerful card to the table. Of course, then everything will go to hell and the Inquisitor will have to convince them to lend their help again. Probably with some extremist in the mix saying "No, we can do it alone! Screw you, shemlen!" and then unleasing hell after a failed experiment = quest to earn the Dalish respect

One of the reviews from Pax or some such stated that the first viel tear starts at a desperate peace conference orchestrated by the chantry when a disaster occurs--the veil tears portrayed in the videos. Prior to the conference is kind of like the origins in DAO to a degree-the tutorial section I believe.

[wcholcombe]

I have a sneaking suspicion of what happened with Briala, but I'm holding back my thoughts till release.

Oh come on! 

 

PM me at the very least.  I was liking Briala until that happened.

[Xilizhra]

I have a sneaking suspicion of what happened with Briala, but I'm holding back my thoughts till release.

Spoiler tag?

[Mistic]

One of the reviews from Pax or some such stated that the first viel tear starts at a desperate peace conference orchestrated by the chantry when a disaster occurs--the veil tears portrayed in the videos. Prior to the conference is kind of like the origins in DAO to a degree-the tutorial section I believe.

 

And there goes another theory. Well, I tried.

 

Still wondering how come a Dalish can end up as the Inquisitor. Maybe the book will have more surprises under its sleeve.

[TEWR]

Well that seems just silly. One would think Orlais would've been smart enough to keep the amount of Elves in the Dales to a minimum so as to avoid the chance of rebellion.

[wcholcombe]

Well that seems just silly. One would think Orlais would've been smart enough to keep the amount of Elves in the Dales to a minimum so as to avoid the chance of rebellion.

You seriously think the Chevaliers are worried about City Elves rebelling? 

While not all Chevaliers are complete garbage, a fair number of them would probably welcome a CE rebellion as free practice for their fighting skills.

[Hellion Rex]

Spoiler tag?

Nah, I'm keeping this one close to the chest, because I sincerely want to be wrong about it.

[Xilizhra]

Nah, I'm keeping this one close to the chest, because I sincerely want to be wrong about it.

Then PM me if necessary? I have to know.

[Hellion Rex]

Then PM me if necessary? I have to know.

You sure?

[Xilizhra]

You sure?

Completely.

[LobselVith8]

As a character moment that would be telling, if not necessarily accurate. It is easy to say that Freedom is won, not earned, but ultimately freedom in a political context is something that requires the consent of other parties. It's not something you can take by force of arms and keep under armed guard in a keep- freedom is only worth as much as other people respect it and abide by it. Acquiescence can only be forced so much: past that, it must be earned because it can only be given through willingness, not unilaterally taken.

 

I don't see how it's not "necessarily accurate", considering how historically, freedom has been won, and it's been maintained afterwards through alliances, as you've eloquently stated. However, that doesn't change the occasions where it couldn't simply be bestowed like a gift or a parcel, and instead had to be fought for.

 

That's... probably not going to happen. The part about Merrill being a hero among the People. Or rather, it would be significantly contrary to the crux of both the Rivalry and Friendship route, which was that Merrill was a Dalish pariah: an outcast, a dissident who opposed and was opposed to the societal norms and expectations. Merrill saw herself in terms of being a heroic figure- self-sacrificing, greater good, and all those other elements of pride. But she was just about the only one who saw her that way: everyone else, especially the Dalish, was convinced she was foolish at best and dangerously reckless at worse.

 

Considering the various other states that Merrill can be in (helping Meredith with the Annulment, destroying the Clan, destroying the mirror), Merrill's contributions will be marginal at best or, more likely, unrelated to the usage of the pre-existing Eluvians.

 

 

Merrill is a pariah of the Sabrae Clan, not of the Dalish community as a whole. It would be a mistake to assume all the Dalish clans are singular in their mindset. Your mistake is in assuming all the clans will share Marethari's opinion, which isn't necessarily the case, and I'd take the step further in saying it's highly unlikely to assume there would be no dissent in opinion on the matter. Merrill's efforts to restore revolutionary and advanced elven technology could be seen as the right path by some, especially given what little has been gleamed from "The Masked Empire".

 

I'd like it if Merrill's attempts to end the plight of the People were acknowledged, with the Dalish Inquisitor being able to express a positive or negative opinion on the matter.

[Hellion Rex]

Just a thought: what if the Dalish are using what Merrill learned from her mirror to attempt to awaken other dormant eluvians?

[The Elder King]

Just a thought: what if the Dalish are using what Merrill learned from her mirror to attempt to awaken other dormant eluvians?

Possible. Though I guess she'd be mentioned in the book (even of not by name) in this case.

[wcholcombe]

Just a thought: what if the Dalish are using what Merrill learned from her mirror to attempt to awaken other dormant eluvians?

That is why DG's comments worry me on the future of the Dalish Eluvian pursuit.

 

and where is my dang PM, I asked before Xil!

[LobselVith8]

One of the devs once said helping merill with the mirror was a "bad idea" 

 

Considering how Marethari let Audacity loose, tried to murder Merrill as an abomination, and caused such anguish in the clan (in the revelation of her death at the hands of the former First) that they attempt to murder the Champion and Merrill, I can see why Laidlaw thought it was a mistake.

 

I'm not sure it's reflective of the potential of the Eluvians, however. Morrigan sought power because the Eluvian in the Dragonbone Wastes could lead her to a place "beyond this world, and beyond the Fade", while the preview for the book:

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suggests that there are beneficial and benevolent applications, like giving food to the hungry and starving elves, or warning a populace about an impending army that could slaughter them.

[wcholcombe]

Considering how Marethari let Audacity loose, tried to murder Merrill as an abomination, and caused such anguish in the clan (in the revelation of her death at the hands of the former First) that they attempt to murder the Champion and Merrill, I can see why Laidlaw thought it was a mistake.

 

I'm not sure it's reflective of the potential of the Eluvians, however. Morrigan sought power because the Eluvian in the Dragonbone Wastes could lead her to a place "beyond this world, and beyond the Fade", while the preview for the book:

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suggests that there are beneficial and benevolent applications, like giving food to the hungry and starving elves, or warning a populace about an impending army that could slaughter them.

Oh, was it Laidlaw, I thought it was Gaider.....Anyway, I got the impression he was referring to the dangers of the eluvians but you may be right.  We know very little about them.

[The Elder King]

By the way, If the Eluvian plot continues in DAI, I bet Morrigan will be related with it.
Does anyone think she might appear in the book?

[LobselVith8]

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Considering that clan's refusal to side with Celene, it's the dalish that has to change their stance. Though we don't know what happens after their refusal, and if Celene is willing to strike a deal now.

 

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That was a single clan. To be fair, Celene isn't exactly trustworthy, which was Briala's reason for not siding with her and choosing the Eluvians for the elves, instead of Celene or Gaspard.

[Master Warder Z_]

By the way, If the Eluvian plot continues in DAI, I bet Morrigan will be related with it.
Does anyone think she might appear in the book?

 

I am of the mind, she will not.

[wcholcombe]

By the way, If the Eluvian plot continues in DAI, I bet Morrigan will be related with it.
Does anyone think she might appear in the book?

Its possible. It would be a good way to introduce her and explain why all of a sudden she occupies the position in Orlesian court that she does.

[Master Warder Z_]

Its possible. It would be a good way to introduce her and explain why all of a sudden she occupies the position in Orlesian court that she does.

 

Whom has said she has a position at court?

[wcholcombe]

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That was a single clan. To be fair, Celene isn't exactly trustworthy, which was Briala's reason for not siding with her and choosing the Eluvians for the elves, instead of Celene or Gaspard.

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Ok, you gotta give a little more than that.  Granted I was only able to read 5 chapters, but Celene in all of that was extremely loyal to Briala, even going so far as to refuse a marriage that would have been best for Orlais because it would have meant losing Briala as a lover, and that was something that she wasn't willing to sacrifice to Orlais when it was the only part of her life she hadn't sacrificed for Orlais.

[Mistic]

By the way, If the Eluvian plot continues in DAI, I bet Morrigan will be related with it.
Does anyone think she might appear in the book?

 

Now that you mention it, I want to see if Morrigan appears in The Masked Empire, even if it's just a cameo.

 

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That was a single clan. To be fair, Celene isn't exactly trustworthy, which was Briala's reason for not siding with her and choosing the Eluvians for the elves, instead of Celene or Gaspard.

 

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Do you have any part of the preview regarding Briala and her change of heart? I'd really like to know more about it

[wcholcombe]

Whom has said she has a position at court?

The pictures from way back when depict her at Court in Orlais.  I believe she may even be holding a mask.

 

here is one.