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[LobselVith8]

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Ah, so she won't necessarily work with the dalish.
I didn't know that the clan got killed. Does the preview hint at what happened?

 

Spoiler

No, my preview didn't show that, only the aftermath. There's at least one surviving Dalish character, but the omitted chapters don't make it clear what had happened to him; it's implied that it involves Michel somehow, although somewhat indirectly (since she blamed him for the death of her clan, who I'd assume to be the same clan who Celene encountered).

[The Elder King]

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No, my preview didn't show that, only the aftermath. There's at least one surviving Dalish character, but the omitted chapters don't make it clear what had happened to him; it's implied that it involves Michel somehow, although somewhat indirectly (since she blamed him for the death of her clan, who I'd assume to be the same clan who Celene encountered).

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Considering that Michel wants to find a demon, do you think it's possible that his actions caused a demon to be unleashed on the dalish?

[LobselVith8]

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Wait, does it mean that Briala sides with the Dalish or with the Orlesian Elves? There's a big difference, and the eluvians can become a point of friction

 

Spoiler

Briala doesn't technically side with either of them; she claims the Eluvians for "the elves", but she's basically the one who is plotting on how to help her people, and she alone controls the Eluvians (as well as being the only one who knows the phrase to activate them). Briala wants to use the civil war to her advantage in getting her people free.

 

Spoiler

I remember that Gaspard found later some bodies in the camp in a horrible state, hinting at something magical in nature. Maybe some kind of demon was awoken?

 

Sigh, the book can't come fast enough.

 

Spoiler

That wasn't included in my preview, for some reason, although I recall someone else mentioning it in this thread. From what I did read, a "demon" was awakened by Michel, apparently, and I think it's inferred to be the reason behind the demise of the Dalish clan.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

So...many...spoiler buttons...

[LobselVith8]

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It's actually possible. Lobsel stated that ser Michel intends to follow and kill a particular demon.

 

Spoiler

That's correct. That's what Michel plans to do once he parts ways with Gaspard, who acknowledges that he will keep his secret, because Orlais will need men like him.

 

Spoiler

Considering that Michel wants to find a demon, do you think it's possible that his actions caused a demon to be unleashed on the dalish?

 

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That was my impression, so I could see Michel as a companion, or a temporary companion for the main character aiding for a specific quest where dealing with the "demon" is addressed.

[Steelcan]

ffs just post it

[LobselVith8]

So...many...spoiler buttons...

 

Are you OK? 

[AresKeith]

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[Hellion Rex]

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That wasn't included in my preview, for some reason, although I recall someone else mentioning it in this thread. From what I did read, a "demon" was awakened by Michel, apparently, and I think it's inferred to be the reason behind the demise of the Dalish clan.

Or it could have been the

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Varterral that showed up

[Mistic]

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Briala doesn't technically side with either of them; she claims the Eluvians for "the elves", but she's basically the one who is plotting on how to help her people, and she alone controls the Eluvians (as well as being the only one who knows the phrase to activate them). Briala wants to use the civil war to her advantage in getting her people free.

 

Spoiler

Then Briala can be a wild card in all of this. I don't think the Dalish, or at least some of them, would be too keen on a City Elf taking control of the eluvians.

 

Spoiler

That wasn't included in my preview, for some reason, although I recall someone else mentioning it in this thread. From what I did read, a "demon" was awakened by Michel, apparently, and I think it's inferred to be the reason behind the demise of the Dalish clan.

 

Spoiler

That would explain why Michel is hellbent on hunting that demon (he feels guilty) and also explains the Dalish animosity towards him and maybe a survivor or two helping Gaspard.

 

However, I doubt he will be a companion. I think this will become a background mention, like when Tali in ME2 mentioned how Cerberus attacked the Migrant Fleet and the Quarians' understandable opposition to them.

 

So...many...spoiler buttons...

 

Yeah, it's getting harder to follow the conversations. But hey, it makes this thread unique, don't you think so?

[LobselVith8]

Or it could have been the

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Varterral that showed up

 

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I never actually read that part in my preview. I heard the varterral scene involved the use of Dalish magic, though.

[Steelcan]

Darth Vader is Luke's father

 

The Planet of the Apes is Earth

 

Tyler Durden doesn't exist

 

Robb Stark dies with his mother and wife and his soldiers are butchered by the Freys

 

Frank Underwood becomes president

 

The One Ring is destroyed by Gollum

 

Walter White dies after getting shot freeing Jesse from neo-nazis

[Hellion Rex]

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I never actually read that part in my preview. I heard the varterral scene involved the use of Dalish magic, though.

Spoiler

I got dropped into the middle of the fight, but Gaspard mentioned some apparently very powerful acid that it was spitting out, which could account for the horrible state of those bodies

[LobselVith8]

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Then Briala can be a wild card in all of this. I don't think the Dalish, or at least some of them, would be too keen on a City Elf taking control of the eluvians.

 

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I think Briala's efforts to emancipate the elves from their current situation might be more paramount for some, although I think she would have enemies from all different kinds of groups who might want to usurp control over the Eluvians, given that Celene and Gaspard are aware that she controls them. Gaspard also mentioned to Michel (in speculation) about how far the Orlesian Empire could have expanded if Drakon wielded such power.

 

Spoiler

That would explain why Michel is hellbent on hunting that demon (he feels guilty) and also explains the Dalish animosity towards him and maybe a survivor or two helping Gaspard.

 

However, I doubt he will be a companion. I think this will become a background mention, like when Tali in ME2 mentioned how Cerberus attacked the Migrant Fleet and the Quarians' understandable opposition to them.

 

Possibly. I suppose we'll find out soon enough.

 

Yeah, it's getting harder to follow the conversations. But hey, it makes this thread unique, don't you think so?

 

Quite unique. 

[EmissaryofLies]

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Pants on the ground, pants on the ground. Looking like a fool with your pants on the ground.

[wcholcombe]

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pure speculation on my part, but it is possible the Dalish were using or trying to use the eluvians to control the Varterral either to kill Celene or some other such and Michel disrupted it and the Vaterral killed the clan and in the process Michel somehow set free a demon.  A possible connection between the eluvians and demons doesn't bode well.

 

Anyway, just speculation that popped into my head from reading the spoilers and the 5 chapters I read yesterday. No basis other than my warped brain tying bits and pieces together.  To my dalish friends, don't get your pitchforks after me, it is just idle supposition.

[dragondreamer]

Through the land of Spoiler tags, I wander...

 

Spoiler

Now I wonder if the eluvians will become a method of fast travel in the games.  Or at least a way to zip over to Arlathan...  I can dream.    

 

Spoiler

Great. As if the Dalish weren't paranoid enough about spirits (not that I blame them, though; so far it seems that only Wynne won the spiritual lottery). Mm, I wonder what would happen if Cole turns out to be a companion in Inquisition and meets a particularly orthodox Dalish elf

 

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I've already been wondering what I'm going to do if Cole is a companion...  I'd like him to be, but I tend to play my mages a bit straight-laced, at least where their personal rules on magic use is concerned.  For my Andrastian-based mages that meant no blood magic, and for Dalish, that would mean no spirits either.  So...issue.  Maybe Cole would be unusual enough that my Dalish mage would have his common sense overridden, I dunno.  Then again, both my Warden and Hawke made some personal exceptions, so might be no different than that.

[LobselVith8]

Through the land of Spoiler tags, I wander...

 

Spoiler

Now I wonder if the eluvians will become a method of fast travel in the games.  Or at least a way to zip over to Arlathan...  I can dream.    

 

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Perhaps if you ally with Briala.

 

Spoiler

I've already been wondering what I'm going to do if Cole is a companion...  I'd like him to be, but I tend to play my mages a bit straight-laced, at least where their personal rules on magic use is concerned.  For my Andrastian-based mages that meant no blood magic, and for Dalish, that would mean no spirits either.  So...issue.  Maybe Cole would be unusual enough that my Dalish mage would have his common sense overridden, I dunno.  Then again, both my Warden and Hawke made some personal exceptions, so might be no different than that.

 

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I've actually played my two previous canon protagonists as the opposite: they were both blood mages. However, I'm looking for my Dalish to lean more towards the cultural and traditional views of spirits and magic (like you seem to be), so I do wonder how a hypothetical companion like Cole would be treated. While he's unusual for a spirit, he's still a spirit nevertheless.

 

I've also wondered what kind of range the player will have in reacting to Seeker Cassandra, and the speculated templar companion Cullen (who, like Cole, was mentioned in the survey), or if the presumed peace conference is going to address that immediately with the former.

[Mistic]

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I've already been wondering what I'm going to do if Cole is a companion...  I'd like him to be, but I tend to play my mages a bit straight-laced, at least where their personal rules on magic use is concerned.  For my Andrastian-based mages that meant no blood magic, and for Dalish, that would mean no spirits either.  So...issue.  Maybe Cole would be unusual enough that my Dalish mage would have his common sense overridden, I dunno.  Then again, both my Warden and Hawke made some personal exceptions, so might be no different than that.

 

I'm of the same opinion regarding those kind of characters. Putting some personal limitations makes roleplaying more meaningful. My Mage Warden was "I'm awesome enough not to use that cheap blood magic!", but the Dalish mistrust of spirits makes it more difficult if some companion is involved with it.

 

But I put interesting roleplaying over personal preferences. For example, if Cole was a possible companion, but there was the option to kill him on sight (like Zevran after he ambushed you), probably a Dalish Orthodox Inqusiitor would do that. Better safe than sorry. And that's before knowing anything about what he did in the White Spire.

 

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I've actually played my two previous canon protagonists as the opposite: they were both blood mages. However, I'm looking for my Dalish to lean more towards the cultural and traditional views of spirits and magic (like you seem to be), so I do wonder how a hypothetical companion like Cole would be treated. While he's unusual for a spirit, he's still a spirit nevertheless.

 

I've also wondered what kind of range the player will have in reacting to Seeker Cassandra, and the speculated templar companion Cullen (who, like Cole, was mentioned in the survey), or if the presumed peace conference is going to address that immediately with the former.

 

Yes, I suppose a Dalish Inquisitor's view on Cassandra or a templar like Cullen would depend a lot on the original quest (especially if it's that rumored peace conference). And of course the Inquisitor's point of view about it. A Vir Atish'an follower and a Vir Tanadhal follower in theory shouldn't share the same outlook. Of course, then the companions' agendas will play a role about how we look at them.

 

I miss DA:O a bit in that regard. In DA2, except Varric, everyone wanted to push their own agenda onto you. In DA:O your companions had clear outlooks on life, which you could agree on or not, but in general were very polite about it, and some of them (like Alistair or Leliana) showed interest about your culture if you were a non-human. It seems that having a clear goal (save the world) helps more than just wandering around the streets

[dragondreamer]

I think it makes things interesting when the companions are passionate about something, even if I don't agree with it.  But I tend to like carrying around companions that are going to gripe at each other the whole time (Hi Alistair and Morrigan; Hi Anders and Fenris).  I already know my Dalish Inquisitor is going to have no love for templars or the Chantry, but not to the point of being unreasonable.  His own agenda, the personalities and agendas of the companions, as well as unknown factors in the story will naturally be taken into account.  ...That said, I admit that I'm hoping for an excuse to grouch at Cullen...  

[Mistic]

I think it makes things interesting when the companions are passionate about something, even if I don't agree with it.  But I tend to like carrying around companions that are going to gripe at each other the whole time (Hi Alistair and Morrigan; Hi Anders and Fenris).  I already know my Dalish Inquisitor is going to have no love for templars or the Chantry, but not to the point of being unreasonable.  His own agenda, the personalities and agendas of the companions, as well as unknown factors in the story will naturally be taken into account.  ...That said, I admit that I'm hoping for an excuse to grouch at Cullen...  

 

I agree, especially when companions start bickering between them and not just at yourself. Makes the setting livelier But don't be too hard on poor Cullen. There's a chance he already has his life screwed by two of our avatars.

 

Wonder if companions will mention different things depending on your background. For example, related to this thread, will Varric tell a Dalish Inquisitor that he met Merrill in the past?

 

Varric: "Did I tell you that I met this nice Dalish mage not long ago? Her name was Merrill"

Dialogue choices:

1) "Merrill? Sorry, the name doesn't sound familiar to me".

2) "Merrill? Ah, yes, the misunderstood scholar who tried to improve our knowledge of ancient elven relics".

3) "Merrill? Ah, yes, the stupid pariah who (almost) got her whole clan killed".

4) "Merrill? Ah, yes, I have it in my pokédex...  Sorry, I thought you were saying 'Marrill'"

[FireAndBlood]

Darth Vader is Luke's father

 

The Planet of the Apes is Earth

 

Tyler Durden doesn't exist

 

Robb Stark dies with his mother and wife and his soldiers are butchered by the Freys

 

Frank Underwood becomes president

 

The One Ring is destroyed by Gollum

 

Walter White dies after getting shot freeing Jesse from neo-nazis

Thanks a lot jackass.

[Master Warder Z_]

Varric: "Did I tell you that I met this nice Dalish mage not long ago? Her name was Merrill"

Dialogue choices:

1) "Merrill? Sorry, the name doesn't sound familiar to me".

2) "Merrill? Ah, yes, the misunderstood scholar who tried to improve our knowledge of ancient elven relics".

3) "Merrill? Ah, yes, the stupid pariah who (almost) got her whole clan killed".

4) "Merrill? Ah, yes, I have it in my pokédex...  Sorry, I thought you were saying 'Marrill'"

 

I choose option 3

[EmissaryofLies]

Hey, BSN!

 

Let's talk about Merrill!

[Master Warder Z_]

Hey, BSN!

 

Let's talk about Merrill!

 

Lets!