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[Master Warder Z_]

Felassan has some Dalish tatoo on his face , Bald Elf Mage doesn't.

I doubt they are the same characters , too bad that elf from the book seems fun.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if he got the Severan treatment in the book  

[The Elder King]

So, if I'm getting this right, the reason the Pro-Dalish are upset is because the Dalish want to kill every single human in Orlais and just leave the city elves?

They don't actually want to kill them. They wish they kill each other in the civil war.

[EmissaryofLies]

You're joking!

 

I sent Leliana to Belize and yet she returned.

[MisterJB]

They don't actually want to kill them. They wish they kill each other in the civil war.

So, the Dalish want the orlesians and the city elves to kill each other and then invade Orlais?

[LobselVith8]

Which is the revelations on page 365?

 

Spoiler

About Briala defecting from Celene's side to help her people with the Eluvians.

[Master Warder Z_]

So, the Dalish want the orlesians and the city elves to kill each other and then invade Orlais?

 

That's about the Gist of it, but i am waiting on the book formally launching before making any plot predictions.

[The Elder King]

So, the Dalish want the orlesians and the city elves to kill each other and then invade Orlais?

Sorry, I wasn't clear. They kind of wish the two Orlesian factions to kill each other, and then reclaim the Dales. They don't seem to care about what would happen to the CE.

[MisterJB]

So, what is so upsetting about it?

The Dalish have always hated humans and they have great disdain for city elves.

 

Where are people reading all of this anyway?

[Aimi]

My Dalish is actually more sympathetic to him than my CE, under the logic of "if I'd just reclaimed my homeland from Orlais and saw it under threat, would I have been willing to go any less far to keep it safe?"

 

If I'd just reclaimed my homeland from France/Britain/Austria/Czechoslovakia and saw it under threat, would I have been willing to go any less far to keep it safe?

[The Elder King]

Spoiler

About Briala defecting from Celene's side to help her people with the Eluvians.

Thanks for the info.

[The Elder King]

So, what is so upsetting about it?
The Dalish have always hated humans and they have great disdain for city elves.

Where are people reading all of this anyway?

It was a preview on Amazon that let you read dozens of pages, with certain skips to over 300 pages in the book (well, not for me. I can't read past page 30).

[Reznore57]

Spoiler

About Briala defecting from Celene's side to help her people with the Eluvians.

 

Spoiler

I guess if the Dalish are getting serious about Eluvians , it could be a big deal in Inquisition.We know Morrigan went to some special place.

This could play a role in Inquisition.At least I hope so. Chances are anyway , Dalish won't go completly berseck and kill everyone.

I mean , can't imagine playing a Dalish Inquisitor and like one year ago , elves slaughtered the Empress and burned down towns.

[MisterJB]

It was a preview on Amazon that let you read dozens of pages, with certain skills to over 300 pages in the book (well, not for me. I can't read past page 30).

That's more than me. I have an account and yet, I seem to only be able to read the scene with Celene and the university chancelier. Where are you reading all of those pages?

[The Elder King]

That's more than me. I have an account and yet, I seem to only be able to read the scene with Celene and the university chancelier. Where are you reading all of those pages?

Click on the book's cover. It should open up a pop-up page with the preview. Or at least it was before. I don't know if it's still available.

[dragonflight288]

Except the Dwarves don't cling to the belief they were once immortal, all had magic and supposedly had this wonderful, Utopian society and the species they were subjected by took it away from them.

 

There can't be an over "appeal" at their humanity when if you are human you will always be a reminder of both their enslavement and their own self destructive war that saw their second homeland destroyed.

 

You cannot take all the bitterness, racial superiority undertones and glaze over it with pleasantness, Well you can in part via the Individual, but not the culture, its a mixed bag of jingoism and racial self loathing. Of course as i said its up to the individual, but i don't blame Bioware for casting a blanket over the issue, When you preach hate, superiority and isolationism, don't be surprised when folks ultimately don't care about you.

 

Nah, just cling to the idea of their past supremacy to the point that most nobles, as per tradition, are completely incapable of adapting to the reality they live in now, that they are probably only a few lost battles closer to total extinction and still act as if they have an empire to fall back on. 

[LobselVith8]

Spoiler

I guess if the Dalish are getting serious about Eluvians , it could be a big deal in Inquisition.We know Morrigan went to some special place.

This could play a role in Inquisition.At least I hope so. Chances are anyway , Dalish won't go completly berseck and kill everyone.

I mean , can't imagine playing a Dalish Inquisitor and like one year ago , elves slaughtered the Empress and burned down towns.

 

Hopefully, the actions of one single clan aren't going to be the depiction for the entirety of the Dalish. From the lore about the Dalish rescuing and raising the historical Aveline as an infant to the treaty signed to aid during the Blights, it's clear the Dalish aren't all the same. It would be nice to see that more reflected with the characters in the games, however. The clans are different from one another, so I think it would be unreasonable if they were all painted in the same negative light.

 

Spoiler

As for the Eluvians, I certainly think they might be utilized in Inquisition, given the concluding chapters of the preview. Given their involvement in the narrative, I wonder if Merrill's actions inspired some of the Dalish. Add her possible involvement in stopping Meredith, she might be viewed as a hero among some of the People, in the same way apostate Champion is among the Circles after rescuing the mages.

[MisterJB]

Click on the book's cover. It should open up a pop-up page with the preview. Or at least it was before. I don't know if it's still available.

Thank though it doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe it was removed?

 

Well, the cover still makes the motion like it's going to open. It's just that nothing appears.

[Master Warder Z_]

Nah, just cling to the idea of their past supremacy to the point that most nobles, as per tradition, are completely incapable of adapting to the reality they live in now, that they are probably only a few lost battles closer to total extinction and still act as if they have an empire to fall back on. 

 

I never said they weren't delusional, but they acknowledge they exist only at the behest of the surface due to the rich trade inflowing through the Human lands.

 

They knew who pays the bills  

 

A Lesson most the elves have also learned.

 

Just a few holdouts.

[The Elder King]

Thank though it doesn't seem to work for me. Maybe it was removed?

Yeah, I read now that other people can't access it too. I guess they didn't mean to show so much?

[MisterJB]

And I doubt anyone saved it...

[dragonflight288]

I never said they weren't delusional, but they acknowledge they exist only at the behest of the surface due to the rich trade inflowing through the Human lands.

 

They knew who pays the bills

 

A Lesson most the elves have also learned.

 

Just a few holdouts.

 

Yeah, but unlike the elves, if the dwarves lose it will adversely affect all the other races. Nothing will stop the darkspawn from coming up, no one would be able to mine the raw lyrium ore since none of the surface races have any resistance to unprocessed lyrium, which in turn will adversely affect mages and templars, which in turn will affect global politics, if they aren't too busy killing each other to save the darkspawn the trouble. 

 

The dwarves noble caste may be delusional, but the dwarves as a whole are the only thing keeping the surface from suffering from any number of nightmares. Directly in the case of darkspawn, and indirectly in the case of lyrium being supplied to templars and mages. 

 

The surface pays the bills, but the dwarves keep the surface relatively peaceful. So to speak.

[The Elder King]

And I doubt anyone saved it...

I don't think so. I can tell you what I personally read, though it's practically nothing compared of what was available to others.

[LobselVith8]

Yeah, I read now that other people can't access it too. I guess they didn't mean to show so much?

 

That's likely, although the revelation made me feel a bit hopeful and positive about the elves in Inquisition. I pre-ordered the book.

[MisterJB]

"if you and Gaspard slew each other, and the war killed every human in Orlais, and burned every alinage to the ground... then we would be willing to return to the Dales".

 

Boy, those elves aren't very nice.