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[AlanC9]

Yeah, but neither Broker Life or Civilian life compare to the average life of a Soldier. Personally, I'm insulted when civilians (unless they've genuinely earned it), call others civilians.

Liara has spent a fair amount of time being shot at by then, hasn't she? What does it take to genuinely earn it?

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Liara has spent a fair amount of time being shot at by then, hasn't she? What does it take to genuinely earn it?

 

Adoption of the lifestyle and mindset of the practical warrior, and the training and skill to perform it.

[KaiserShep]

I always got the impression she only does it to aid shepard in the reaper war.

 

I got that impression as well, at least from the conversation Shepard has with her at the Shadow Broker base on Hagalaz.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I got that impression as well, at least from the conversation Shepard has with her at the Shadow Broker base on Hagalaz.

 

Yeah. Honestly, it wouldn't be hard to believe that she'd retire post-war or go somewhere else, like back to a Prothean dig site. I have her ceding her organization to Shepard and Miranda's reformed Cerberus. 

[sH0tgUn jUliA]

Liara was a civilian. Period. She wasn't a spy for a government. I suppose you could stretch it and say she was a private spy agency as the Shadow Broker. The wording was awkward. Her writer should have written the line "You don't see me going back to a normal life, do you?"

[von uber]

I got that impression as well, at least from the conversation Shepard has with her at the Shadow Broker base on Hagalaz.

That dlc is still the best part of the entire trilogy for me.

[AlanC9]

Adoption of the lifestyle and mindset of the practical warrior, and the training and skill to perform it.

Training and skill which Liara's got, according to the game. Not sure about lifestyle and mindset.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Training and skill which Liara's got, according to the game. Not sure about lifestyle and mindset.

 

Where does the game say she has the training and skill? And yes, the adoption of the lifestyle and mindset is indeed necessary. Otherwise, she's a civilian with practical combat skills. Similar to a spy. 

[KaiserShep]

That dlc is still the best part of the entire trilogy for me.

 

I'm inclined to agree. Even the soundtrack is great.

[JDee3]

I'm not sure if the fact that Liara's mother was some important matriarch means anything in that culture but something tells me she'll avoid politics because of her experience with them and keep the Shadow Broker thing alive for only a little longer but not be as involved, distancing herself from it little by little as time goes by. Maybe she'll completely shut it down after she feels she's done as much she could to help rebuild and search for Shepard.

Even when we first meet Liara, it seems she's not really apart of civilian life in any way because she says she's basically always just researching Prothean dig sites and seems to even do that on her own. Writing a book will probably get her more involved in civilian life and if she wants to move on from everything, she may even find herself a boyfriend.. (and then break up because Shep is the only one for her even if she wasn't shipped)

[ImaginaryMatter]

ME1 Liara seems to have the capabilities and training to be a fighter, and nerves of steel if she goes exploring the edges of space by her self knowing and sometimes dealing with pirates and mercenaries.

 

I think the problem with her in ME1 is that she comes off as completely new and naive to the world which doesn't seem to fit her background.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'm not sure if the fact that Liara's mother was some important matriarch means anything in that culture but something tells me she'll avoid politics because of her experience with them and keep the Shadow Broker thing alive for only a little longer but not be as involved, distancing herself from it little by little as time goes by. Maybe she'll completely shut it down after she feels she's done as much she could to help rebuild and search for Shepard.

Even when we first meet Liara, it seems she's not really apart of civilian life in any way because she says she's basically always just researching Prothean dig sites and seems to even do that on her own. Writing a book will probably get her more involved in civilian life and if she wants to move on from everything, she may even find herself a boyfriend.. (and then break up because Shep is the only one for her even if she wasn't shipped)

 

Civilian life is anything and everything not pertaining to military life. Not being social does not mean you are not a civilian.

[JDee3]

In my mind based off what I was given in my play through of the trilogy I see:

James becoming one of the greatest N7s, eventually trains them when he's older and ends up with Ashley (because the flirting that happened in the Citadel DLC as the "aw I never get picked" were the only things that made me happy I kept her alive in ME1)

Ashley doesn't take the Spectre job because it's just not right for her (and the offer was part of some political thing Udina was doing) she rather rise in the ranks of the Alliance to restore her families name or whatever. Possibly takes Admiral Hackett's place when she's older.

Garrus would definitely go back to his planet and see his family and help rebuild his home world. Not really sure what he does after. Turns down some high ranking military or political offer and ends up with Tali. Has a kid, raises him to be a boss.

Tali goes back to home world to build and work with Geth. Becomes a huge political figure because she's the only one that understands both sides completely.

Joker get awarded some medal and has all these groupies. Smiles at it and walks off with EDI. Maybe some future technology can fix whatever he has and he's finally able to walk. Maybe it makes part of him robot so him and EDI won't be as weird together. Flies off with the Normandy and EDI and is never found by anybody but past squad/crew.

Wrote Liara's future already. If my Shepard was still around they'd most definitely try to have a normal life after shutting down the Shadow Broker stuff

 

Javik searches for his purpose after helping Liara with the book. Tells Hanar to chill. I would say he contributes to science but I'm not sure how much he knows about Prothean science. Maybe he just chills with Liara for a bit and acts as a top agent. Don't know.

 

The Leviathans wait years later and has lots of babies so they can then regain their galaxy back now that the cycle is over [queue Mass Effect 4]

[JDee3]

Civilian life is anything and everything not pertaining to military life. Not being social does not mean you are not a civilian.

Didn't say she wasn't a civilian. Said she doesn't participate in normal citizen things. Basically doesn't do any fun civilian things or socialize with other civilians is what I mean

[CronoDragoon]

I see people saying Tali will return to Rannoch, and I have thought about the potential post-ME3 future of Tali and Shepard building a war orphanage on it...

 

...But she says some interesting things at the end of the Rannoch arc. Obviously, Rannoch up until this moment has always been more of an idea than a reality for all quarians, but for Tali, she says, when she now looks at the reality of Rannoch, she says something along the lines of it now being tainted by the memory of what it took to get there, not to mention the Reaper war. This, combined with the symbolic switch to "vas Normandy" makes me think that if Shepard chose to continue living a life off of Rannoch, she'd stick with him as opposed to going home to "rebuild."

[ImaginaryMatter]

I see people saying Tali will return to Rannoch, and I have thought about the potential post-ME3 future of Tali and Shepard building a war orphanage on it...

 

...But she says some interesting things at the end of the Rannoch arc. Obviously, Rannoch up until this moment has always been more of an idea than a reality for all quarians, but for Tali, she says, when she now looks at the reality of Rannoch, she says something along the lines of it now being tainted by the memory of what it took to get there, not to mention the Reaper war. This, combined with the symbolic switch to "vas Normandy" makes me think that if Shepard chose to continue living a life off of Rannoch, she'd stick with him as opposed to going home to "rebuild."

 

I always thought she would continue her role as the Quarian ambassador to the Citadel.

 

And then maybe retire to Rannoch.

[themikefest]

Didn't say she wasn't a civilian. Said she doesn't participate in normal citizen things. Basically doesn't do any fun civilian things or socialize with other civilians is what I mean

My life is like that. Since leaving the military in 1991, I only socialize with family members, and that 's far and few between, with my lady friend and with the guys I spend with at the firing range 2-3 hours a week

[Bob from Accounting]

That's most people in fiction.

[FlyingSquirrel]

I see people saying Tali will return to Rannoch, and I have thought about the potential post-ME3 future of Tali and Shepard building a war orphanage on it...

 

...But she says some interesting things at the end of the Rannoch arc. Obviously, Rannoch up until this moment has always been more of an idea than a reality for all quarians, but for Tali, she says, when she now looks at the reality of Rannoch, she says something along the lines of it now being tainted by the memory of what it took to get there, not to mention the Reaper war. This, combined with the symbolic switch to "vas Normandy" makes me think that if Shepard chose to continue living a life off of Rannoch, she'd stick with him as opposed to going home to "rebuild."

 

Is this assuming a Tali/Shepard romance? While a non-romanced Tali does display a lot of loyalty and gratitude to Shepard, I don't think she would necessarily plan on making Shepard's squad a lifetime career choice (and that's if Shepard is even alive when the war is over). For one thing, a non-romanced Tali may be pursuing a relationship with Garrus, but even if you put that aside, I think she'd still want to be doing something more directly tied to the quarians' future as opposed to serving with a Spectre. Maybe she wouldn't stay on Rannoch long-term, but she would probably prefer representing the quarians in political or military circles over continuing as vaguely defined engineer/ground operative on the Normandy.

 

I'm assuming that the quarians would at least get an embassy if not a Council seat after the war, so I could see Tali working there even if she herself isn't the ambassador/councilor. She has briefly served as an admiral, she probably has more experience working with other races than most quarians, and if they want to send somebody from the current Admiralty Board, she doesn't have a history of antagonizing the Alliance (Gerrel) or just generally being a kook (Xen). Koris and Raan likely *would* be needed on Rannoch, as the leaders of the civilians and what seems to be the quarians' version of local police.

[von uber]

Tali only pops around to babysit.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Didn't say she wasn't a civilian. Said she doesn't participate in normal citizen things. Basically doesn't do any fun civilian things or socialize with other civilians is what I mean

 

She's an introvert. Socially awkward. Not really one who is comfortable around others.

 

My Shepard's a bit of an ENTJ/INTJ type. He lives the vagabond lifestyle of an explorer and adventurer. He's got his friends and allies, but he's the type who also simply enjoys his own company more than others.

[Village_Idiot]

Post-Destroy, the galaxy is going to be a very unstable place. I doubt the euphoria and goodwill after the victory is going to last very long, and, to paraphrase Garrus, "there'll be a lot of angry orphans looking for answers".

 

Because of that, I doubt Team Normandy will be resting on their laurels, especially if Shepard is still kicking around. Until the galaxy can rebuild, they'll go where they're needed, which is likely where the action is.

[CronoDragoon]

Is this assuming a Tali/Shepard romance?

 

Yes, sorry, I implied that by mentioning the Shepard/Tali orphanage but I should have made it more clear.

 

I will say that the thought of Tali as the quarian ambassador for some reason never crossed my mind, but it does make sense in terms of her wanting to help her people while not being able to stomach living on Rannoch. And it fits with both romanced/non-romanced Shepard.

 

Edit: actually, that's feasible in the long-term but not short-term. With the Citadel devastated and relays disabled, it's going to be a while before embassies have a strong purpose and direction. If you assume the relays will take decades to repair (you can headcanon otherwise, as I do, because why the hell not?) then Tali will probably either be helping organize the quarian fleets for the 27-year (or whatever it is) ride home, or choose to remain with Shepard.

[crimzontearz]

Everybody dies in horrible ways because (you guessed it) art....

I keed


maybe

[congokong]

With a 'tasteful' shrine to Shepard in the corner of her room

lol

 

I picture Shepard entering Liara's apartment in LotSB and finds the walls covered with photos of Shepard; in the shower, sleeping, different angles on Shepard's corpse.

 

Shepard: "...What... ...the... ...****..."

Officer: "This area is sealed off. Please step back."

Shepard: "Officer, I'd like to report a stalker."

Officer: "No kidding."