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[Ryzaki]

Then your warden will still have the cheek to ask "was it good for you as it was god for me?" While looking all smugged and accomplished :-P

 

oh yes he would be trolly enough to say that. XD

 

And yeah if the DR ends up being a good thing I'll be surprised. I have my doubts though.
 

[Abelas Forever!]

I don't necessarily think she's bad in this.

 

I think it's as her mother says. "She's a girl who thinks she knows 'what is what' better than I or anyone else."

So maybe Morrigan has good intentions but she really doesn't know what she is doing. It could also be possible that Flemeth has manipulated her to believe that the DR is a good thing while Flemeth has her own plans for the baby.

[Han Shot First]

The interesting thing to me is how this would eat away at the Female Warden/Alistair relationship. Be it on Alistair's side or the Warden's. The DR is not the kind of thing couples easily forget about.. it's one of those issues they will randomly argue about out of nowhere. The unresolveable, nagging issue that keeps poking it's head out, ready to destroy the relationship.

 

 

That probably depends on how FemWarden was played. Some versions might more open-minded than others.

 

Jealousy might not necessarily be an issue with some versions of Alistair and FemWarden. FemWarden might be setting up Alistair to wed Anora, for example. Or the two of them might have already shared a bed with Isabela. Or FemWarden could have also been sleeping with Zevran or Leliana. (Of course that last one doesn't necessarily rule out jealousy..people are quite often hypocritical)

[Abelas Forever!]

That probably depends on how FemWarden was played. Some versions might more open-minded than others.

 

Jealousy might not necessarily be an issue with some versions of Alistair and FemWarden. FemWarden might be setting up Alistair to wed Anora, for example. Or the two of them might have already shared a bed with Isabela. Or FemWarden could have also been sleeping with Zevran or Leliana. (Of course that last one doesn't necessarily rule out jealousy..people are quite often hypocritical)

My wardens weren't open-minded so they only had eyes for Alistair. But the jealousy isn't really an issue in DR because it's not actually cheating because you persuade Alistair to do it and he doesn't desire Morrigan. I guess my wardens saw the situation more like an unpleasant assignment which had to be done so that a grey warden couldn't be killed in the battle because it's also important to build the grey wardens/rule as a queen after the blight.

[Mike3207]

Step back for a second and think of what you're doing. It's so odd that even Loghain begs you not to do it.

Loghain makes it pretty clear that he wants to make the Ultimate Sacrifice.He sees the ritual as unnecessary.

[Mike3207]

I felt he was more disturbed by the possibility of the child threatening Anora's throne than he was about the Ritual itself.

[Mike3207]

We only have Morrigan's word that it was her mother's idea.It could have been something Morrigan came up with on her own. Flemeth herself implies that Morrigan was playing games.

As far as Loghain-no doubt he doesn't want to do the Ritual.His personal redemption is his primary focus, but no doubt there are other factors involved.

[Ryzaki]

I'm not talking about jealousy per se. Just a bizarre/disturbing/uncomfortable situation that the couple will never wash out of their brains.

 

Especially when the kid shows up.

 

Step back for a second and think of what you're doing. It's so odd that even Loghain begs you not to do it.

 

Yeah this is kind of why I don't even want to do the romance anymore. The one child Alistair will ever have is in Morrigan's clutches and she's hasn't shown herself to be very good parenting material.

 

I just feel like that's something that would eventually bother him. It bothers my warden.

[Abelas Forever!]

I'm not talking about jealousy per se. Just a bizarre/disturbing/uncomfortable situation that the couple will never wash out of their brains.

 

Especially when the kid shows up.

 

Step back for a second and think of what you're doing. It's so odd that even Loghain begs you not to do it.

 

Well if the child has a soul of the old god then if the child shows up wouldn't you be meeting an old god? So it's not like meeting Alistair's normal child.

[theskymoves]

Well if the child has a soul of the old god then if the child shows up wouldn't you be meeting an old god? So it's not like meeting Alistair's normal child.

 

 

To quote Alistair, "Oh. Well that's so much better, don't you think? Here I was worried about creating another bastard heir and I didn't even consider that it might also be some dragon... god... whatever!"

[Xetykins]

My hawk is dead. A random rock.got thrown on her head and splllaaatt!
And alistair doing the ritual does not bother me cuz like, its a game and I get to be queen or bad arse warden commander if I live. And if this ogb shows up and is not intending to eat me then I will adopt him/her. If he wants to eat me, I'll feed it to flemeth first.

[Jaison1986]

"I laugh at a world full of stupid humans, who ignore the Blight's evil and abandon their vigilance to pursue mortal goals. Remember.. it up to you to destroy the blight. Pray not for someone else to destroy it for you. It will always nip at your heels."

 

 

....And supposedly, everyone thinks she's the evil one.

 

I never made that connection, but it's interesting. Some times, I feel like the ritual ends up being an scapegoat for players who don't want to face the consequences of their actions, being the fact that they didn't wanted to recruit Loghain and now either you or your lover/friend end up having to pay the price. I only did the ritual because I had my warden follow Morrigan in Witch hunt, so I trust he would persuade her not to do anything too extreme (of course I could be wrong), but other then that, yeah, it feels like we are taking an huge bet here.

[Xetykins]

Flemeth? Evil one? Naa I think shes the good one. I just dont mind everything she says. If the ogb shows up within my warden's lifetime , he does not have the taint anymore. So I can kill it safely this time without rituals. But I rather have the ogb as my step-it. Can I adopt it? Yes yes.

[Han Shot First]

I never made that connection, but it's interesting. Some times, I feel like the ritual ends up being an scapegoat for players who don't want to face the consequences of their actions, being the fact that they didn't wanted to recruit Loghain and now either you or your lover/friend end up having to pay the price. I only did the ritual because I had my warden follow Morrigan in Witch hunt, so I trust he would persuade her not to do anything too extreme (of course I could be wrong), but other then that, yeah, it feels like we are taking an huge bet here.

 

I had my Warden do the DR with Morrigan, because he had been involved in a romance with her. By that point he trusted her. Without that personal relationship I probably wouldn't have had the Warden do the DR and would have went the ultimate sacrifice route.

 

If Morrigan's role had instead been filled by Merrill (too stupid and naive to trust any magic ritual she recommends) or Velanna (too angry and reckless), it also would have been refused.

[Ryzaki]

"I laugh at a world full of stupid humans, who ignore the Blight's evil and abandon their vigilance to pursue mortal goals. Remember.. it up to you to destroy the blight. Pray not for someone else to destroy it for you. It will always nip at your heels."

 

 

....And supposedly, everyone thinks she's the evil one.

 

See Flemeth's easily my favorite character. She seems Chaotic neutral to me. Where's morrigan always struck me as stupid evil.
 

[Abelas Forever!]

I REFUSE!!!! MORRIGAN IS MINE!!! ALL MINE!!! I'd kill Alistair, take his crown and make Morrigan my queen. Hoe's before bro's.

 

Edit: Its a joke. In all seriousness I kind of feel sorry for him. The guy been through a lot and it keeps getting worse for him. Maybe not letting him perform the ritual with Morrigan but kill the Archdemon resulting in his death, is an act of mercy.

I don't think having sex with Morrigan is that bad if the other option is to get killed. If Alistair lives then he can continue his life and he can enjoy it with whoever he wants to be with and do things.

[Ryzaki]

Eh I don't think the sex is the issue. It's the giving the soul of an old god to someone of questionable morality who's pretty damn anti-social and probably lacks decent parenting skills.

 

I mean...a child probably without enough affection as a child, grown up isolated so they have stunted socialization skills, and who's role model is Morrigan...I don't see that becoming a well adjusted individual.

 

I'm hoping it's a tykebomb.