And you think anyone cares to stop those outlaws? not. at. all.
Orlais grants a very tiny opportunity for elves to rise to become servants to nobility and have servants of their own. But its a very little chance, as little as a human rising up in ranks in Orlais.
All I will say is in Mask of the Empire, Elves own businesses and property on a far greater scale than they appear to in Denerim.
All I will say is in Mask of the Empire, Elves own businesses and property on a far greater scale than they appear to in Denerim.
Do you mean the Masked Empire?
And you think anyone cares to stop those outlaws? not. at. all.
Orlais grants a very tiny opportunity for elves to rise to become servants to nobility and have servants of their own. But its a very little chance, as little as a human rising up in ranks in Orlais.
You really do enjoy using Hyperbole don't you?
That situation is about the same everywhere, Feudalistic society was like that.
You either get elevated through armed service or you stay a peasant, its the same way in Nevarra, The Free Marches, Fereldan, Rivian, Basically anywhere that isn't Par Vollen or the Imperium.
Both of those places are far worse 
Do you mean the Masked Empire?
don't correct me when I am busy correcting him! Its rude 
All I will say is in Mask of the Empire, Elves own businesses and property on a far greater scale than they appear to in Denerim.
You should ignore the in-game appearance. Ferelden is a free country. If a noble trusts an elf he can promote the elf as desired. Such as Iona.
Blood magic is outlawed in Tevinter too you know. In a medieval society outlawed means rats arse when you have wealth or power.
I don't think that compares or even comes close to the imperiums slavery operations, so trying to say the two are the same is pretty disingenuous to say the least.
We're talking scale, plus working condition, plus life expectancy, and all adding up to tevinter being worse, especially from what we were shown from origins and dragon age 2.
Oh no, I absolutely agree, I don't think that in the least bit.
But you know, no matter the extent slavery is still slavery.
You really do enjoy using Hyperbole don't you?
That situation is about the same everywhere, Feudalistic society was like that.
You either get elevated through armed service or you stay a peasant, its the same way in Nevarra, The Free Marches,
Fereldan, Rivian, Basically anywhere that isn't Par Vollen or the Imperium.
Both of those places are far worse
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Oh no, I absolutely agree, I don't think that in the least bit.
But you know, no matter the extent slavery is still slavery.
Slavery has a bad reputation <_<''
You should ignore the in-game appearance. Ferelden is a free country. If a noble trusts an elf he can promote the elf as desired. Such as Iona.
Blood magic is outlawed in Tevinter too you know. In a medieval society outlawed means rats arse when you have wealth or power.
oh, so I can ignore the portrayal of templars in DA2 Got it. Seriously. Or how about how elves are treated in the books in Ferelden. Elves are 2nd class citizens in Ferelden just as much as Orlais if not more so.
And blood magic is far more practiced in Tevinter than slavery is in Orlais.
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Uh no, You have Farmers, Servants and Craftsmen in Fereldan that will live and work and die in squalor with out opportunity to advance.
You will have Lordlings gathering their bannermen for war and the majority will be conscripts forced off the lands of the lord to fight for him.
Thedas is Feudalistic, Nearly all of it is.
Then you have Military Junta ruled over by mind control and then you have Another military Junta ruled over my Magic.
oh, so I can ignore the portrayal of templars in DA2 Got it. Seriously. Or how about how elves are treated in the books in Ferelden. Elves are 2nd class citizens in Ferelden just as much as Orlais if not more so.
And blood magic is far more practiced in Tevinter than slavery is in Orlais.
have a taste of your medicine then:
Hyperbole and speculation. Prove to me blood magic in tevinter is more common than slavery in Orlais. Its worth to notice tevinter is in many instances using blood magic to defend its nation, at least right now. The Tevinter circle makes blood mages tranquil. Unless they have enough wealth or power to escape it. IF wealth and power can save an apostate in kirkwall it can save him/her anywhere.
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Ferelden is still controlled by power. What happened with the Couslands after Howe murdered them all? Nothing would have happened if you didn't bring him to justice. Those are nice platitudes that the Ferelden's spout about themselves, but in reality they are no more free than any other commoners.
Society may be less rigid, but it is hardly free. Heck elves in orlais can be bards, they don't have to be servants, they own businesses as well.
Uh no, You have Farmers, Servants and Craftsmen in Fereldan that will live and work and die in squalor with out opportunity to advance.
You will have Lordlings gathering their bannermen for war and the majority will be conscripts forced off the lands of the lord to fight for him.
Thedas is Feudalistic, Nearly all of it is.
Then you have Military Junta ruled over by mind control and then you have Another military Junta ruled over my Magic.
In few events we saw that Ferelden does not really conscript. There is harsh punishment for deserting but no one conscripted anyone. Joining the army happens willingly. That's just how the devs want to portray Ferelden. More liberal than all thedas.
have a taste of your medicine then:
Hyperbole and speculation. Prove to me blood magic in tevinter is more common than slavery in Orlais. Its worth to notice tevinter is in many instances using blood magic to defend its nation, at least right now. The Tevinter circle makes blood mages tranquil. Unless they have enough wealth or power to escape it. IF wealth and power can save an apostate in kirkwall it can save him/her anywhere.
Wot ""While blood magic is discouraged even in pro-mage Imperium, it is still widely, if quietly, practiced there."
Compare that with "slavery is not unheard of" and I will let you connect the dots.
Ferelden is still controlled by power. What happened with the Couslands after Howe murdered them all? Nothing would have happened if you didn't bring him to justice. Those are nice platitudes that the Ferelden's spout about themselves, but in reality they are no more free than any other commoners.
Society may be less rigid, but it is hardly free. Heck elves in orlais can be bards, they don't have to be servants, they own businesses as well.
You know that howe covered up what he done along with loghain and king died?Pretty much nobles didn't liked that and they opposed loghain but again most/many thought that wardens were one who betrayed.Even woman who escaped from orlais read commoner admit it when she miss orlais becaus pretty things in ferelden common man have much more freedom than in orlais.It is bad when you have to give criminalist as job opportunity. 
In few events we saw that Ferelden does not really conscript. There is harsh punishment for deserting but no one conscripted anyone. Joining the army happens willingly. That's just how the devs want to portray Ferelden. More liberal than all thedas.
In the aftermath of Ostagar Press Gangs roam the Bannorn conscripting for both sides of the civil war you realize?
You know that howe covered up what he done along with loghain and king died?Pretty much nobles didn't liked that and they opposed loghain but again most/many thought that wardens were one who betrayed.Even woman who escaped from orlais read commoner admit it when she miss orlais becaus pretty things in ferelden common man have much more freedom than in orlais.It is bad when you have to give criminalist as job opportunity.
Criminalists? Bards are highly regarded and valued in Orlais. they are one step below the nobility themselves in the Great Game. Being a bard is a great honor in Orlais.
And yes, Howe covered it up. Power. All the lore says that Ferelden is a country of might makes right. Even the kings justice in Denerim is interested only in preventing problems from getting out of hand and not actually enforcing the law or investigating crimes.
Criminalists? Bards are highly regarded and valued in Orlais. they are one step below the nobility themselves in the Great Game. Being a bard is a great honor in Orlais.
And yes, Howe covered it up. Power. All the lore says that Ferelden is a country of might makes right. Even the kings justice in Denerim is interested only in preventing problems from getting out of hand and not actually enforcing the law or investigating crimes.
Hhmm they are officially criminals so i could say that elf can become thief in ferelden is opportunity... so bards are outlawed but as law and authorities tolerate corruption in orlais is another matter but still being bard isn't something that admit publicly same as thief so yep bards are criminals that are secretly approved among nobility and corrupted system same as blood mages in tevinter but there they can be more open about blood magic...
Not rly ferelden law doesn't fuction that at all so you are making that up loghain and howe were trying pull that off but this way no way approved by law or nobility they could succeed as darkseid would do same pulling such thing in any society.And nope as i said ferelden may have corrupted element hah it have because it would naive think that any organisation doesn't have but in any way ferelden doesn't promote corruption like orlais.
This too.
By that logic all nobles should die because they are rapist based on the city elf origin. Judge people on what they do but not on what others do.(But have your knife ready and sharp just incase.)
Hhmm they are officially criminals so i could say that elf can become thief in ferelden is opportunity... so bards are outlawed but as law and authorities tolerate corruption in orlais is another matter but still being bard isn't something that admit publicly same as thief so yep bards are criminals that are secretly approved among nobility and corrupted system same as blood mages in tevinter but there they can be more open about blood magic...
Not rly ferelden law doesn't fuction that at all so you are making that up loghain and howe were trying pull that off but this way no way approved by law or nobility they could succeed as darkseid would do same pulling such thing in any society.And nope as i said ferelden may have corrupted element hah it have because it would naive think that any organisation doesn't have but in any way ferelden doesn't promote corruption like orlais.
Officially they are not. Law is subjective based on authority. It only becomes objective if everyone abides, recognize, and submit to them. Even then defferent places have different laws.
Hhmm they are officially criminals so i could say that elf can become thief in ferelden is opportunity... so bards are outlawed but as law and authorities tolerate corruption in orlais is another matter but still being bard isn't something that admit publicly same as thief so yep bards are criminals that are secretly approved among nobility and corrupted system same as blood mages in tevinter but there they can be more open about blood magic...
Not rly ferelden law doesn't fuction that at all so you are making that up loghain and howe were trying pull that off but this way no way approved by law or nobility they could succeed as darkseid would do same pulling such thing in any society.And nope as i said ferelden may have corrupted element hah it have because it would naive think that any organisation doesn't have but in any way ferelden doesn't promote corruption like orlais.
Where are bards illegal or outlawed? Talk about making something up.
BTW, my source for laws in Ferelden-Wiki
Ferelden is a relatively temperate nation in the far southeast of Thedas, historically populated by a simple militaristic culture that has only begun to "civilize" in the last few centuries. The Andrastian Chantry is now revered by the 90% of the population.[2]Fereldan cities are considered virtually anarchic by the standards of most outsiders. The Fereldan desire for freedom has engendered a cultural mistrust of law enforcement, and 'laissez-faire' attitudes in general. While the worst offenses are quickly put down, many others are ignored and citizens are often left to make their own justice. Petty theft is common, as guardsmen will only go out of their way to deal with serious disruptions. Commerce is given little official scrutiny as long as taxes are paid; businesses such as brothels and gambling halls are not only tolerated, but expected.[21]
But nice argument to try and say I just made it up.
In few events we saw that Ferelden does not really conscript. There is harsh punishment for deserting but no one conscripted anyone. Joining the army happens willingly. That's just how the devs want to portray Ferelden. More liberal than all thedas.
That's not true at all.
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