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#76
FuriousFelicia

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I've never bothered to explore the combo capabilities of the drone, so if someone could outline that for me, that would be great.


Drone will act as a detonator when its destroyed. Meaning anything you might have primed the target with before deploying the drone will get detonated when the drone is destroyed. Provided that you took the suicide evolution.

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This is what I use.

The drone is very situational, but 4 points into drone is still more useful than 6 into fitness. 



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oops forgot the link: here



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Miniditka77

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Looking at the code, the Burning Damage evolution uses the total damage done to figure out its damage. This even includes the damage from the base DoT effect that Incinerate does. It is also affected by both rank 6 evolutions.

 

It doesn't extend the duration of the Fire Explosion priming unfortunately but being that it's a Fire DoT, it does help with Incendiary Rounds stacking. It even inherits Incinerate's defence modifiers in calculating how much damage to deal(including rank 6 if you took it).

 

If you have a Power Amp IV and SMG/Pistol mod then it'll end up doing around 1000 extra damage to armour, assuming you took armour damage at rank 6. It's more for Freeze Combo, but that requires almost always using Cryo Rounds to benefit from it on the Human Engineer.

 

Thanks - I guess it's better than I thought then.  Hard to justify skipping it, with that much extra damage. 



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My mangineer has always been built as a widow sniper without incinerate.  Lots o' fun.

 

 

The mingineer is always 6/6/6/x/x and frequently carries a Falcon with cryo ammo.



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ThatOddGuy

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Overload's code is really strange at times, but from the looks of it you don't need Neural Shock to get a prime on organics.

 

All it does is cause ragdoll for organics if they can be and deal extra damage to organics(which I'm pretty sure it was never meant to remove the 0.5x organic damage modifier, not even against armour/health).

Is that so? Because I find that when I build Overload-Snipe type builds, the ragdoll is incredibly annoying and I only want the simple stun.

 

If that's the case, it will certainly cause me to rethink the way I spec several of my kits with Overload. Generally, Overload is used for three things: Shield/Barrier damage, crowd stunning, and tech burst priming. Damage to health and armor are the least of concern with this power.

 

As for my Stun-Snipe kits, recharge time probably is better, considering Sniper Rifles are relatively heavy in general, and knocking the enemies down is really obnoxious.



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Drone will act as a detonator when its destroyed. Meaning anything you might have primed the target with before deploying the drone will get detonated when the drone is destroyed. Provided that you took the suicide evolution.

Does the enemy have to destroy it to detonate, or does it detonate also when its duration expires and cause a combo?



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OniGanon

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Is that so? Because I find that when I build Overload-Snipe type builds, the ragdoll is incredibly annoying and I only want the simple stun.

 

They only fall down if they have no Shields. If they have no Shields, you shouldn't be Overloading them unless they're particularly annoying enemies like Husks/Aboms.

 

Use Incinerate instead. If they dodge it, that's fine because you can easily predict where they will be. Or you could use Combat Drone. Or you could just shoot them and not bother with a power at all.


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Human engineer is my fav but haven't played it much since they dumbed down the drone....still...would never think of runnig without it. Used to run with the hurricaine but switched to CSMG. Not so concerned with build - one point here, one less there....doesn't matter since they took away boss hypnotize feature. Might as well run a typhoon as anything else.....power comes from weapon not abilities....might as well be a soldier. Incindiary ammo plus any high output weapon.....that is your bread and butter. Still, i roll with the drone for old times sake.