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[stysiaq]

We will agree to disagree then.

 

Stasis >>>>>>>> Tech Armor

 

 

Maybe before Bombers and Dragoons.

 

Right now Stasis is best against Collectors, I guess

[me0120]

Anyone who says Vanguard hasn't used a Shockwave + Venom + Disruptor rounds build to throw off friends.

[me0120]

EDIT:  BTW, the Human Infiltrator is the best class for the CSR, although it works really well as a shotgun class too.

 

QME, QMI, and DI are all better with the CSR.

[Argent Xero]

Anyone who says Vanguard hasn't used a Shockwave + Venom + Disruptor rounds build to throw off friends.

nope. Haven't used the Nova Vanguard since Operation Rolling Stone.

[ClydeInTheShell]

Don't believe I answered this question...This is tough because I love all the humans. 

 

The question was the least effective vanilla human kit; in my hands, it's the Novaguard. 

 

Overall I couldn't possibly name any of them; I've seen every human kit destroy things when played properly.

[Chealec]

NovaGuard off-host - otherwise the Sentinel, just because there's so much crap that can dodge warp/throw combos.

Both are still pretty good though ... I tend to use either the Phaeston or Lancer with the Sentinel and Cryo ammo; can't dodge when you're frozen!

[cronshaw]

Ha

I see OP changed the title

which title out of the two is the worst I wonder?

[me0120]

nope. Haven't used the Nova Vanguard since Operation Rolling Stone.

Next time someone is sniping you should try it out! All the wubwub's and screenshakes ;D

[Koenig888]

The Human Sentinel and Infiltrator are made completely redundant by other kits.

 

From a game I just finished .... no other Infiltrator can do this.  (Edit: forgot about the FQI     )

 

[Tokenusername]

AIU has better cryo explosions.

[me0120]

From a game I just finished .... no other Infiltrator can do this.  (Edit: forgot about the FQI/MQI/DI)

 

FTFY

[Koenig888]

AIU has better cryo explosions.

 

AIU cannot self detonate cryo explosions.

[Koenig888]

FTFY

 

MQI and DI cannot self detonate level 6+6 explosions.

[millahnna]

Stickies it's all about the self detonating tech burst.  For whatever reason I do better with them on the human infiltrator than the FQI, though. 

[Koenig888]

Stickies it's all about the self detonating tech burst.  For whatever reason I do better with them on the human infiltrator than the FQI, though. 

 

I was using Disruptor ammo.  I didn't notice whether I got the Tech Burst in addition to the Cryo Explosion.  I wonder whether this is possible ....

[me0120]

MQI and DI cannot self detonate level 6+6 explosions.

 

My bad. I thought the point was the Tech Explosion killstreak on mooks. I didn't know you were being so specific.

[Tokenusername]

MQI and DI cannot self detonate level 6+6 explosions.

Huntress has better explosions.

[BIGGLESBY]

Least effective vanilla human kit for you has a better ring to it, but the answer is still none.

[Koenig888]

Huntress has better explosions.

 

Good point.

[KalilKareem]

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Ha
I see OP changed the title
which title out of the two is the worst I wonder?

There is no worst of the two titles, you just need skill to read them both to the full potential.

[Kirrahe Airlines CEO]

The one vanilla that's really bad in my hands is believe it or not, the engineer. I can't really wreck it like others can.

[OniGanon]

They're all really good kits. I guess if I had to pick the worst of them though, it would be Human Adept, because he relies on power comboes where both powers have cooldowns. Same could be said of the Sentinel I guess, but the Sentinel gets DR and the Throw cd is super fast anyway.

[Mighty Omnibutton]

Least effective for me is the vanguard, the fact that is hugely lag dependent is a severe limiting factor.

Other vanilly human kits are not that affected by it.

[Balbock]

I was using Disruptor ammo.  I didn't notice whether I got the Tech Burst in addition to the Cryo Explosion.  I wonder whether this is possible ....

 

It should be possible because stickies apply ammo effects on targets if they hit it.

 

 

 

The Human Sentinal is the least effectiv for me. The AA is just an better adept with the Warp and Throw combo.

[stysiaq]

AIU cannot self detonate cryo explosions.

 

With Snap Cheese somebody will do it for you.

 

Setting up a CE with a sticky sure feels rewarding though.

 

For me it's the way explosions should be - it should be a reward for you executing the combo properly.

FE change, SF, AF, Cluster Nades, even Tech Bursts - all of these are examples of wrong combo design imho, where the 'reward' is the thing you get by default.

 

I'm not saying it's a crime, but a game should have steep enough learning curve to be satisfying.

 

 

As for the OP, I'd still vote the Infiltrator, because he simply is the weakest of his class.