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[JeffZero]

Meh. If she doesn't work at Bioware's offices, if she never worked on dragon age, I might not buy the book. I remember the last disaster with Mass effect deception written by an author who never worked in the MA team. ( How many unbelievable errors with the lore lol ? ) and to be honest, I'm not really interested to read a book written by a fan of dragon age if that is what she is, even if she's an author.

Keep an open mind on it. Stay tuned for previews. This author has a far better reception about her previous works than Dietz; not to mention, a few current DA writers were effectively "just" fans before joining the team. Thus is the nature of things.

I get what you mean, and I'm also apprehensive, but... we'll see.

[Degenerate Rakia Time]

Keep an open mind on it. Stay tuned for previews. This author has a far better reception about her previous works than Dietz; not to mention, a few current DA writers were effectively "just" fans before joining the team. Thus is the nature of things.

I get what you mean, and I'm also apprehensive, but... we'll see.

Okay, i just have to say that someone getting a better reception than Dietz is not a really good measure of talent...im sorry, i just cant respect the guy that butchered Halo

[leaguer of one]

Interesting. 

 

Although, after "Deception", I'm a bit wary of authors not directly involved in the main story of the games. 

The author of Deception had a history of being a bad author. This one does not.

[Giubba]

Totaly unexpected

[milena87]

The author of Deception had a history of being a bad author. This one does not.

 

Let's hope we'll see a good novel then. The premise seems intriguing enough

[leaguer of one]

 

"When the last eagle flies over the last crumbling mountain

And the last lion roars at the last dusty fountain

In the shadow of the forest though she may be old and worn

They will stare unbelieving at the last Gray warden Griffin"

 

"When the first breath of winter through the flowers is icing

And you look to the north and a pale moon is rising

And it seems like all is dying and would leave the world to mourn

In the distance hear the cries of  last Gray warden Griffin"

 

"I'm alive,

I'm alive"

 

"When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning

And the future has passed without even a last desperate warning

Then look into the sky where through the clouds a path is torn

Look and see her how she sparkles, it's the Gray warden Griffin"

 

"I'm alive,

I'm alive"

[BigEvil]

I'm interested, intrigued even, but I'll freely admit to being a bit cautious about an author who might not know the setting very well. Just hoping it'll be good.

[Xiltas]

Pre-ordered it a few minutes ago. I'm curious, to say the least.

 

Oh yeah, nearly forgot to mention it... Griffons!!!

[Jack Druthers]

So, is it griffins, gryphons or griffons? 

[ElitePinecone]

Griffon, according to the wiki. 

 

But I think we get the idea with any of those spellings

[keightdee]

Griffon DLC semi-confirmed rumor

 

Preparing my sacrifices to the sweet Baby Jesus now. (That's how it works, right?)

 

RE: Dark secrets—I'll bet 100 gold the Wardens blackened the Golden City before the Tevinter magisters ever had a chance. 

[TheLittleBird]

A book about the Grey Wardens?... forget The Masked Empire, this sounds awesome!

 

No seriously, Grey Wardens are my favourite thing about Dragon Age.

[Heimdall]

Man, this is a very good year for my favorite video game franchises

Griffons, man... Griffons

The author looks like she has some fantasy writing experience and lacks the train wrecking history of bad writing Dietz had, so I'm optimistic. Hopefully, Garahel will feature prominently.

[Undead Han]

For the skeptical, remember that Dan Dietz wasn't the first time an outside author wrote a story based in a setting that was not his or her own creation. You don't need to go any further than Star Wars to find numerous examples. How many writers (including Bioware devs) have expanded the Star Wars universe? The Star Wars Expanded Universe has had its share of clunkers to be sure, but it also had KOTOR (the best Star Wars game) and the Thrawn trilogy. (the best Star Wars books)

 

I think she is worth giving a chance to at least.

 

I will say though that if she wasn't a Dragon Age fan before being brought in to write the novel, that Bioware needs to exercise much better quality control over its product than it did in handling Mass Effect: Deception. That novel was more Bioware's failure than Dietz', as it should have been Bioware's job to make sure the established lore and characters stayed consistent. 

[JeffZero]

For the skeptical, remember that Dan Dietz wasn't the first time an outside author wrote a story based in a setting that was not his or her own creation. You don't need to go any further than Star Wars to find numerous examples. How many writers (including Bioware devs) have expanded the Star Wars universe? The Star Wars Expanded Universe has had its share of clunkers to be sure, but it also had KOTOR (the best Star Wars game) and the Thrawn trilogy. (the best Star Wars books)

I think she is worth giving a chance to at least.

I will say though that if she wasn't a Dragon Age fan before being brought in to write the novel, that Bioware needs to exercise much better quality control over its product than it did in handling Mass Effect: Deception. That novel was more Bioware's failure than Dietz', as it should have been Bioware's job to make sure the established lore and characters stayed consistent.

Quite so.

[TKavatar]

So apparently her debut novel was pretty good but the sequel wasn't according to a review I read. Not sure whether that's good news.

[Eleinehmm]

For the skeptical, remember that Dan Dietz wasn't the first time an outside author wrote a story based in a setting that was not his or her own creation. You don't need to go any further than Star Wars to find numerous examples. How many writers (including Bioware devs) have expanded the Star Wars universe? The Star Wars Expanded Universe has had its share of clunkers to be sure, but it also had KOTOR (the best Star Wars game) and the Thrawn trilogy. (the best Star Wars books)

 

I think she is worth giving a chance to at least.

 

I will say though that if she wasn't a Dragon Age fan before being brought in to write the novel, that Bioware needs to exercise much better quality control over its product than it did in handling Mass Effect: Deception. That novel was more Bioware's failure than Dietz', as it should have been Bioware's job to make sure the established lore and characters stayed consistent. 

 

I am sure it will set some people at ease, but I actually hate the expanded universe, and would prefer it not to exist

[Herr Uhl]

RE: Dark secrets—I'll bet 100 gold the Wardens blackened the Golden City before the Tevinter magisters ever had a chance. 

 

There were no wardens before the first blight. The first blight was after the blackening.

[Heimdall]

I am sure it will set some people at ease, but I actually hate the expanded universe, and would prefer it not to exist

Well, most of it doesn't anymore as I hear it.

[JeffZero]

Well, most of it doesn't anymore as I hear it.

I have no horse in this race, but I'm compelled to comment that I find the idea that a sudden Disney-based decanonization policy actively destroys existing works rather than merely slides them into one particular timeline which exists independently of the film sequels to come... kinda silly. I wish more people were as open to enjoying and continuing to cherish products irrespective of their placement within fictional timelines as mandated by suits, because I see a lot of unnecessary bitterness about all this.

I'm not saying you displayed any of it or anything, but it just reminds me of some of what I've read.

[Eleinehmm]

Well, most of it doesn't anymore as I hear it.

 

Ouch, well since the reason is the new movies being made, it's like trying to extinguish a fire with 5 tones of gasoline.

[Heimdall]

So apparently her debut novel was pretty good but the sequel wasn't according to a review I read. Not sure whether that's good news.

Sequels are hard, especially if the original set high expectations. That most of the story is set during the Fourth Blight, thus not involving characters we know and giving her something of a free hand, gives me some hope.

[ElitePinecone]

I think she is worth giving a chance to at least.

 

I will say though that if she wasn't a Dragon Age fan before being brought in to write the novel, that Bioware needs to exercise much better quality control over its product than it did in handling Mass Effect: Deception. That novel was more Bioware's failure than Dietz', as it should have been Bioware's job to make sure the established lore and characters stayed consistent. 

 

Definitely agree, and I will give the novel every benefit of the doubt before leaping to conclusions.

 

In a way I'm sympathetic to what happened with Dietz, because writers for licensed/franchise novels are given a ridiculously short time to write them, generally - and since he writes many books in a year, he probably had other things on his schedule anyway. I'm immensely frustrated with whoever gave him the contract, though - because if you're going to bring on a writer to hack out a half-baked story in order to fill a spot on some promotional calendar, you should at least choose someone familiar with the IP. Deception did nothing to advance the story or shed any light on any part of the ME universe, which made it seem like a bit of a waste of ink and paper. 

 

The responsibility does fall on Bioware to do due diligence and check the novel for lore consistency, and thankfully the Dragon Age team have been much better at this than their ME counterparts. I'm confident that they'd be more stringent in checking the novel, and probably more serious about the quality and consistency of their story than other teams at the studio.

 

That being said, it wouldn't hurt if Liane Merciel was a fan, because I think that displays an encouraging willingness on the part of Bioware and EA to give the novel to a writer who is familiar with the series. 

[Eleinehmm]

Definitely agree, and I will give the novel every benefit of the doubt before leaping to conclusions.

 

In a way I'm sympathetic to what happened with Dietz, because writers for licensed/franchise novels are given a ridiculously short time to write them, generally - and since he writes many books in a year, he probably had other things on his schedule anyway. I'm immensely frustrated with whoever gave him the contract, though - because if you're going to bring on a writer to hack out a half-baked story in order to fill a spot on some promotional calendar, you should at least choose someone familiar with the IP. Deception did nothing to advance the story or shed any light on any part of the ME universe, which made it seem like a bit of a waste of ink and paper. 

 

The responsibility does fall on Bioware to do due diligence and check the novel for lore consistency, and thankfully the Dragon Age team have been much better at this than their ME counterparts. I'm confident that they'd be more stringent in checking the novel, and probably more serious about the quality and consistency of their story than other teams at the studio.

 

That being said, it wouldn't hurt if Liane Merciel was a fan, because I think that displays an encouraging willingness on the part of Bioware and EA to give the novel to a writer who is familiar with the series. 

 

I was stuck on an 8-hours flight with Deception as my sole company (I tend to get stuck on a plane with horrible books for some reason, but I digress). I really hope you are right, and the DA team woudn't allow the same lack of consistency the ME team had allowed.

[JeffZero]

Eleinehmm, that's... horrible. D: My sincerest condolences.