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[ClydeInTheShell]

LuckyStarr, you're going to have a hard time playing Gold with the equipment you have right now. My suggestion would be to at least bringing all of your consumables up to 6 and unlocking all uncommon weapon mods before going to Gold.

 

I agree with half of this. 

 

You should definitely have 6 of everything before you attempt Gold, knowing that you've already had difficulty in the games you've played. Uncommon weapon mods and maxed uncommon weapons will help, but the only thing that's necessary really is piercing mods for all your weapons. 

 

Right-hand advantage and efficiency are going to be your two best friends if you're planning on playing Gold with low level weapons & equipment. You don't need to have a GI, TGI/Harrier X or AIU/Reegar X to do well on Gold, but you need to be able to kill fast and stay alive relatively easy. After a while, you'll "grow eyes in the back of your head"; you'll learn to look behind you or just know when you should move because you can feel the heat on you. 

 

Again, the best teacher is experience. Nothing wrong with getting carried a bit as long as you're trying and not score wh0ring.

[Teh_Ocelot]

No, I meant something more substancial, like infiltrator's cloak, or Adrenaline rush (the shield regen aspect), or biotic charge (insta shield replenish).

Oh I see. Well, to be honest, Incinerate + Arc Grenades (especially if they're specced for radius, 10.4 meter radius is out of control) can get you out of some tight spots b/c it procs for an FE and Arc Grenades provide a stagger so...it's a poor man's escape ability ;-)

[Argent Xero]

Clyde pls, I don't think having 6 Thermal Clip packs are necessary for Gold.

[Alijah Green]

Human adept warp and singularity

[ClydeInTheShell]

Clyde pls, I don't think having 6 Thermal Clip packs are necessary for Gold.

 

You're right, I need much more than that since I'm usually out by wave 7. 

 

I'd like to try to encourage good habits from the outset, thx. 

[Alijah Green]

No equipment is needed for gold... spawn control is all that is needed

[Catastrophy]

It really depends on your playstyle with what you might find easy.

[Caineghis2500]

Just play a non cheesy kit, go die and make as many mistakes as you can. That's how you'll learn. Playing something cheesy to minimize mistakes wont help you learn anything. You'll just find yourself relying on crutches...

[Losing You to You]

I used a chargeless melee DrellGuard when I stopped playing Silver and started Platinum (skipped Gold), you should really try it.

 

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[Caineghis2500]

You're right, I need much more than that since I'm usually out by wave 7. 
 
I'd like to try to encourage good habits from the outset, thx. 

There's ammo boxes ya know

[Turian Master Race]

Out of your kits I would take the Havoc or the Juggy, because they have very good survivability. The problem is that you don't have the weapons. You got some good UR but all of them level one, on the other hand you don't even have your commons maxed out.

 

IMO stay at silver, max out uncommon weapons, weapon mods and gear by buying veteran packs, after that you can think of switching to gold.

[jamdjedi]

Just play a non cheesy kit, go die and make as many mistakes as you can. That's how you'll learn. Playing something cheesy to minimize mistakes wont help you learn anything. You'll just find yourself relying on crutches...

 

what 'crutches' like the 'you can only play X -classes on host crutch'?  how only X classes can be played well because of lag crutch? or is it the 'don't use Cobra's crutch'

 

funny how the 'best players' will only play certain classes on host

 

no such thing as a crutch in this game-its not that hard

[Wizard of Ox]

The ones you're most confortable playing; we'll gladly provide advices on them if you'd like. I wouldn't recommend using OP kits because you'll learn bad habits. 

[Caineghis2500]

what 'crutches' like the 'you can only play X -classes on host crutch'? how only X classes can be played well because of lag crutch? or is it the 'don't use Cobra's crutch'

funny how the 'best players' will only play certain classes on host

no such thing as a crutch in this game-its not that hard

U seem upset...

Things like flamer, Aiu, TGI harrier is easy mode and a crutch. I don't mind the use of it for fun but to recommend these extremely lenient and easy to use OP kits for transitioning in difficulty is crutch like. Flamer melts everything within range. No tactics needed. Repair matrix forgives stupid exposure with free revives, stim packs are OP. You can get out of virtually any under fire situation with just 1 pack without running. Having an easy button doesn't produce any solid self sufficiency, especially when transitioning to higher difficulties

[Shampoohorn]

Turian sentinel is a good choice.

 

Looking at your manifest, you don't look like you'd measure up to the average Gold pug.  The best way for you to get into Gold is to find some friends.  It's more fun to carry someone through the higher difficulties if they're your friend.  Matches with friends also foster teamwork which makes matches much easier.

[Jeremiah12LGeek]

As others have said, the best place to start is a kit that you feel comfortable with. I would tell people your favourite kits, and the ones you feel strongest with. Then we can giveyou advice about that kit's build and powers, and what weapons you have that work well with it (that kind of thing.)

[ClydeInTheShell]

There's ammo boxes ya know

 

Dagger Hazard says hello. Thermal clips = full ammo & grenades, 100% weapon damage for 10 seconds, ammo box = waiting, and I'm in a rush.

 

no such thing as a crutch in this game-its not that hard

 

What Power Stream said. Sure there are crutches, but it's not a crime to use them like BSN sometimes implies. I do agree, however, that for someone going from silver to gold, encouraging the use of characters that are considered "easy mode" by a large majority of players isn't the best. The kits he named and some others teach bad habits, and only serve to stifle a player's development rather than the natural trial by fire. 

[SlimJim0725]

My early kit going into gold was the Salarian Infiltrator with the Mantis X. Energy Drain was a life saver, but times have also changed a lot since that time (Dragoons, more turrets on wave 7, Atlas DoT, etc.) and it would definitely be rougher to jump in with that. My suggestion would be the Geth Infiltrator with the Geth Plasma Shotgun honestly. Regardless of what people say about "crutches" you have to start somewhere and the GI is one of the best kits for learning the ropes since Hunter Mode gives you a lot more awareness, but mistakes are also costly with the low health/shields. You can also learn spawn points a lot easier with it which helps with survival.

 

Quarian Male Engineer is another kit that is just an absolute monster once you have Grenade Capacity up some. I honestly don't even use it that much anymore because I feel way too ridiculous using it, but for someone starting out in gold it is definitely a solid choice with Arc Grenade/Incinerate combos. Also, at this stage of the game you have to expect to be "carried" on occasion on gold. A lot of people have far more experience and will just run things over as second nature, which can leave someone new in a bind as they aren't going to know when a spawn is going to pop up right by them, causing them quite a few deaths. My suggestion would be that if that happens, just watch someone that is good if you end up in spectator mode and learn from what they do. You will see a lot of right hand advantage, kiting when necessary, and notice them kind of "feel" the enemies flanking them.

 

I personally wouldn't suggest going the AIU/TGI route since I feel that teaches bad habits since you can't always rely on free ops packs/medi-gels in stim packs or repair matrix, but that is your choice to make if you want to go that route. Experience will be your best teacher, so watch some gameplay on youtube of some of the better players to get a feel for things and then just jump in and give it a shot. The worst that can happen is you don't do well and you try again next time, or you could do fairly well for what you have and build up more confidence. Maybe add some BSNers willing to show you the ropes if possible, I know even when I was "carrying" gold games early on I still had a lot to learn and didn't become a really good player until players better than myself gave me a lot of advice/information.

[MisterGunfighter]

Your Awakened Collector is a beast.  He has a great dodge.  Weapon build, power build, there's just so many different excellent ways to spec him depending on your playstyle.  If you want an extra tanky build, spec seeker swarm 5a 6a and don't caste out the swarm, just keep them buzzing around you for the whole game.  Ascension Stance seems weird to me so I never use it.

 

Your Human Engineers are really good too.  Currently my favorite character.  There are some good tips here: http://forum.bioware...ild-discussion/

 

Your Geth Infiltrator is another solid choice.  The ability to see through walls really helps with survivability.

[Evil]

What Power Stream said. Sure there are crutches, but it's not a crime to use them like BSN sometimes implies. I do agree, however, that for someone going from silver to gold, encouraging the use of characters that are considered "easy mode" by a large majority of players isn't the best. The kits he named and some others teach bad habits, and only serve to stifle a player's development rather than the natural trial by fire. 

Indeed.  It can be worth playing a few gold games with a AIU or TGI when you're new to gold to get a feel for the basics, but once you've done that you really need to start using less op kits to avoid becoming dependant on them.

 

The word "crutch" is apt, there's nothing wrong with using one temporarily in a time of need then abandoning it when you're ready, it's only leaning on one constantly that's bad.

 

Unless you're a pirate of course.     Arrr.

[Teh_Ocelot]

Crutches aren't bad; they're for people to lean on who otherwise couldn't get to where they want to go. The only thing is, once you can get their on your own, ditch the crutch. The 2nd part of this is what people often forget to do.

[cato potato]

Indeed.  It can be worth playing a few gold games with a AIU or TGI when you're new to gold to get a feel for the basics, but once you've done that you really need to start using less op kits to avoid becoming dependant on them.
 
The word "crutch" is apt, there's nothing wrong with using one temporarily in a time of need then abandoning it when you're ready, it's only leaning on one constantly that's bad.
 
Unless you're a pirate of course.     Arrr.

 
Did someone mention crutches and pirates?

[Rosemyrtle]

Asari adept or human adept
-They both can easily set up and detonate their own BE's
-BE's are strong against armour and barriers
- warp and throw can set of fire, cryo, and tech explosion so they synergies well with tech classes

[bondiboy]

 Only 33 hrs played ?

 

You have the Shadow . She has a sword . Take the Wraith with armour piercing ammo and try her out against Cerberus on Gold.

 

Plenty of build suggestions on the net for her .

[Vanelsa]

Play your Adepts to level 20 and deploy this Human Adept. He is great without having high-level weapons (though they make him even better). Went through your current manifest and created this for you:

 

http://kalence.drupa...43M24313!EF9559

 

Your primary damage dealer will be biotic explosions from Singularity/Warp, Singularity/Shockwave, Warp/Shockwave, and Singularity/Warp/Warp. Use the Tempest as a close-mid range weapon. Use the Acolyte to strip shields and force now-unshielded enemies to get picked up in Singularity.

 

If you require extra health/fitness, you can skip the 6th evolution of Shockwave:

 

http://kalence.drupa...43M24313!EF63G9

 

You could also consider just bringing the Acolyte, as well.