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Possibility of an Elven Templar in DAI


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#151
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Anyway, usual nonsense by the usual suspects aside.

 

I would like to see more elven Templars, specially now that the Loyalist Templar Order has ceased to exist. Maybe the Chantry will allow the underprivileged city elves to become Templars to restore the loss of manpower. 

 
Racism? You can be racist toward a fictional race? How nice.
 
But go ahead then, post them. 

 

Too bad, DG has already stated that there are elven Templars. You are a bit late with Chantry's allowance.

 

Sigh. Sometimes i regret that i lean into the Templar's side. The times, when i read posts like this.



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How about you knuckleheads stop debating and speculating about my personal viewpoints? 

 

Too bad, DG has already stated that there are elven Templars. You are a bit late with Chantry's allowance.

 

Sigh. Sometimes i regret that i lean into the Templar's side. The times, when i read posts like this.

 

Seems your reading comprehension needs work, I WANT elven Templars to appear IN-GAME and I want one to be a potential companion. 



#153
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How exactly are missionaries going to conquer the Dales Lob?

 

I'm not even going to pretend that sending religious soldiers to trespass into the lands of a neighboring kingdom is defensible.

 

It wasn't the orlesian military that went into the Dales with the missionaries, it was armed escorts. .

 

They were the militant arm of the Andrastian Chantry, charged with bringing in free mages into the Circles, and they were sent into a nation where mages aren't controlled by templars. It's a recipe for disaster.

 

I swear, it makes sense and I don't begrudge them being just as intolerant as everyone else on Thedas, but you flat out can't admit the Dalish have any personal failing that all the other mortal races on Thedas have. I am not condemning them for it, it makes perfect sense.

 

I've addressed time and again when Dalish characters have had flaws or made mistakes (like Zathrian, Velanna, and Marethari), but the Dales wasn't under any obligation to let in Andrastian missionaries into their borders or armed soldiers into their lands, and the entire situation is colored by how Drakon formed Orlais in conquests to build a nation under the worship of the Maker.



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How about you knuckleheads stop debating and speculating about my personal viewpoints? 

I'm no longer debating your viewpoints. I'm trying to explain mine.

 

But fine, I have to go anyway so consider it dropped. 



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Is that official or fan art?

 

It's official artwork, although I don't think the context was ever clarified.



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I'm no longer debating your viewpoints. I'm trying to explain mine.

 

But fine, I have to go anyway so consider it dropped. 

 

Done.


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How about you knuckleheads stop debating and speculating about my personal viewpoints? 

 
 

Seems your reading comprehension needs work, I WANT elven Templars to appear IN-GAME and I want one to be a potential companion. 

How about you stop barking and try to actually talk, before you earn warning points?



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Racism? You can be racist toward a fictional race? How nice.
 
But go ahead then, post them. 

 

 

And by that logic liking a spirit of the fade IN A GAME does not make someone spectrophilia. So next time, manners please.



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How about you stop barking and try to actually talk, before you earn warning points?

You initiated the encounter with your condescending tone, don't be surprised by my reaction.  

 

And by that logic liking a spirit of the fade IN A GAME does not make someone spectrophilia. So next time, manners please.

IIRC you fantasized of having a sexual encounter with Justice during back during the later stages of BSN by your own admission. 



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You initiated the encounter with your condescending tone, don't be surprised by my reaction.  

 

 

IIRC you fantasized of having a sexual encounter with Justice during back during the later stages of BSN by your own admission. 

 

I said he was bonus in sexual relationship with Anders. The game itself has a conversation regarding this very issue. spectrophilia would be having sex WITH Justice and actually craving it. Without Anders Justice is useless and I doubt anyone wants to have a sexual relationship with him.



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I said he was bonus in sexual relationship with Anders. The game itself has a conversation regarding this very issue. spectrophilia would be having sex WITH Justice and actually craving it. Without Anders Justice is useless and I doubt anyone wants to have a sexual relationship with him.

So you did in fact want to have sexual intercourse with a phantom.



#162
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So you did in fact want to have sexual intercourse with a phantom.

 

No but I can't help it when he is attached to Anders. Whatever you do it will always be a threesome.



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Ergo you want to bang a ghost.

 

Anyway, uhh......yay for Elven Templars.



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I'm not even going to pretend that sending religious soldiers to trespass into the lands of a neighboring kingdom is defensible.

 

 


 

I've addressed time and again when Dalish characters have had flaws or made mistakes (like Zathrian, Velanna, and Marethari), but the Dales wasn't under any obligation to let in Andrastian missionaries into their borders or armed soldiers into their lands, and the entire situation is colored by how Drakon formed Orlais in conquests to build a nation under the worship of the Maker.

I really don't care about the templars part Lob. I am focusing more on the initial missionaries being kicked out.  How that can be construed as anything other than religious intollerance that is prevalent all over Thedas is my point.  They aren't under any obligation as religious freedom doesn't exist in Thedas. However, seeing as how they kicked the missionaries(before the Templars) out of the Dales-your own words- is where I am drawing the conclusion that in a realistic sense the Dales were as religiously intollerant as everywhere else on Thedas.  What exactly am I not communicating here.

-I am not taking a side in the Dales/Orlais/Chantry conflict, just pointing out an observation about the Dales from the limited information we have.



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Elves look ridiculous in massive armor. I'll just say that.

 

Fenris is a templar without all the goofiness, so he gets a slide.



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Fenris is a templar 

 

He's a Final Fantasy Character.



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He's a Final Fantasy Character.

 

I don't think so. His story fits perfectly in the DA universe. Gave me a lot of insight on mage/templars and slavery in Tevinter. You're making it out to be shallow, when he wasn't. Imo, of course. He did a lot more for those issues than other characters did for me.



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I don't think so. His story fits perfectly in the DA universe. Gave me a lot of insight on mage/templars and slavery in Tevinter. You're making it out to be shallow, when he wasn't. Imo, of course. He did a lot more for those issues than other characters did for me.

I didn't imply he was poorly written, I just felt he was out of place. 



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I didn't imply he was poorly written, I just felt he was out of place. 

 

That's exactly what I'm addressing too. I thought he enriched the world and gave me more reasons to care about issues. He's one of Gaider's characters, so it's only natural he'd be in "place".

 

If you mean visually, I can that see a bit. e's given a more sleek look like JRPG characters, but that's because he's just a slave in clothing. He's not meant to be a tank either, so no need for traditional warrior roles.



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Maybe I'm focusing too much on his aesthetic appearance, overall I liked him well enough to have him in my party for all the major events. 



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I don't think so. His story fits perfectly in the DA universe. Gave me a lot of insight on mage/templars and slavery in Tevinter. You're making it out to be shallow, when he wasn't. Imo, of course. He did a lot more for those issues than other characters did for me.

 

I agree. Fenris provided a different perspective, as a slave of the Imperium who had seen the worst of the Magisters because of his time serving Danarius. I thought his comment to Orana (about how she didn't know any better) gave me an impression about how he must have struggled with what he's done, and how he looked back on who he was.



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Maybe I'm focusing too much on his aesthetic appearance, overall I liked him well enough to have him in my party for all the major events. 

 

I understand what you mean (clarified a bit above in an edit).

 

On a sidenote though, he's still cooler looking than most elves. He's one of the few "new DA elves" that doesn't turn me off. A lot of them are bordering on grotesque.



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Elves look ridiculous in massive armor. I'll just say that.

 

Fenris is a templar without all the goofiness, so he gets a slide.

 

He looks like a FF reject character

 

But Fenris isn't an offical Elven Templar



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Why bother? Fenris was pretty much that.


But he wasn't. At all.

Templars make vows to the Chantry. They forsake their chance at having a family in order to serve the Maker. Some Templars may hate magic, but it isn't what defines them. It'd be interesting to see, I'm also curious if there are any Elven Mothers or Sisters.
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He looks like a FF reject character

 

But Fenris isn't an offical Elven Templar

 

Templar in everything but name really. He's there to provide a Templar perspective more or less, has Templar powers, and if you're a mage, picks up the slack where Carver left off after Act 2. He's a way to have a character talk about these issues, without seeming too out of place (like a real Templar squaddie).