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[Brass_Buckles]

All right, this is not necessarily something I believe, lore-wise, but it's a creepy idea I had while starting up reading The Calling.  Up to this point, despite being an avid reader, I'd somehow managed to not read the Dragon Age books... I knew they existed, and I preordered DA:O, so I'm a bit behind the times.

 

In any case, getting to my creepy notion:

• Darkspawn make a "singing" or "humming" according to both The Stolen Throne and The Calling.  Whether everyone experiences this around darkspawn is anyone's guess.  It's only represented as growling and such in DA:O that I noticed.
• In Awakening, the Architect and the Mother discuss music and how much she misses it.
• The Old Gods are said to sing and call to the darkspawn.
• According to lore, the roads of the Golden City were also made of music.
• The Archdemons sing to the darkspawn to bring them to the surface during a Blight.
• And the darkspawn, despite their name, seem to have a love/hate relationship with light.  They don't need it, but...
• The Architect in Awakening seems to long for the light.  And he seems to feel that other darkspawn have the same craving.
• The music that controls the darkspawn is supposed to be very beautiful to them.

 

So we can determine that music is pretty important to lore, and that it has a very strong connection to the darkspawn.  It perhaps is even exactly what controls the darkspawn.

 

• The Chant of Light was created post-darkspawn.
• But, the Chantry says it must be sung from all four corners of Thedas before the Maker will forgive mankind and return His attention to them.

 

My creepy thought is that the Chant of Light may or may not be the song that is driving the darkspawn.  Again, this is not really a theory I believe, but it's a thought I had.

• The Chantry might have existed prior to the darkspawn in some form.  Yes, it would have had to be a form pre-Andraste.
• In that case, darkspawn may actually have been programmed to spread the Chant of Light.

I don't really believe that, but that is one possibility.

• Alternatively, the Chant of Light might not actually be the Chantry's religious text.
• It could be that the actual Chant of Light is the song that once built the roads of the Golden City.
• In that case, the darkspawn may be the instrument of spreading the Chant of Light to all four corners of the world.
• In other words, the Blight IS the method of spreading the word of the Maker to the entire world.
• Blight-As-Chant-of-Light makes more sense if we think of the Maker as being the elves' Fen'Harel, whose attention the elves definitely Do Not Want.  Because who wants the attention of a god who will only pay attention when the entire world is blighted at last?

Again I don't really believe that, but at the same time, it makes twisted and terrible sense, and we do know that Dragon Age was originally conceived as a dark fantasy.  I already wouldn't want to live there, even if it's fun to play games and adventure there. So, Blight-as-Chant is basically a super-creepy theory I cooked up that I thought I'd share.

 

If we tie this theory in to Fen'Harel-as-the-Maker, and the theory that the Golden City once belonged to the Old Gods, and was corrupted before anyone attempted to enter, we could also theorize that darkspawn don't exist out of greed, but because someone felt it was urgent to go see what happened to the Golden City that caused its corruption.  These adventurers wouldn't have known that they would be corrupted by visiting the Once-Golden City; Fen'Harel had done what tricksters do, and duped them.  And if that is the case, it may also be that the Golden City was made to appear corrupt, when it was actually not, until the mages got there.  Lots of ways to think about that theory.

 

Personally, I'm not sure the Golden City story, in any variant, is actually the origin of the darkspawn, for other reasons.  But that's a topic for another thread, on another night.

[thats1evildude]

The Cult of the Maker did exist before Andraste. She didn't introduce the concept of the Maker to Thedas as return Thedas to worship of the Maker.

 

That said, I don't think the darkspawn were "programmed" to spread the Chant of Light. The music the darkspawn hear is the call of the Old Gods.

[Cainhurst Crow]

Would be funny if all gods were just really big music fans. Old gods, forgotten ones, even gods, the maker, there's probably something in the qun involving music in some way as well.

[Daerog]

Everything that is supernatural seems to sing in Thedas. Justice comments how lyrium sings in Awakening.

 

So, if the Maker and the Fade sing, I always took the idea that the Old Gods and the taint/blight sing a distorted version of the song. Kind of like Iluvatar and Melkor.

 

I can see the connections you are making, though, it's a fun thought, but as you said, I doubt it is true in the lore.

[Daerog]

Would be funny if all gods were just really big music fans. Old gods, forgotten ones, even gods, the maker, there's probably something in the qun involving music in some way as well.

 

They all try to follow the path of the Titans: Who became Metal Gods!

 

(I liked Brutal Legend, rts part was iffy, but the world and story was fun)

[The Qun & the Damned]

You know, this reminds me of a post someone made on tumblr that deeply creeped me out, it involved turning down the audio in DA2 and in the Chantry, there's this eerie, deadly silent noise that echoes throughout.

 

Here, Stormcloak at tumblr pointed this out

[Grieving Natashina]

You know, this reminds me of a post someone made on tumblr that deeply creeped me out, it involved turning down the audio in DA2 and in the Chantry, there's this eerie, deadly silent noise that echoes throughout.

 

Here, Stormcloak at tumblr pointed this out

I wonder if it's something to do with the lyrium that's being stored there.  There is this constant ominous hum.  Of course, that could have been the music and sound team doing that to leave an undercurrent of dread about the place.  A light bit of musical foreshadowing, if you will.

[Jack Druthers]

I remember a thread on the old Forums where someone speculated what the OP suggests.  They were saying that perhaps the idea of the Maker returning and fulfilling the promise of paradise in Thedas was to do with everyone being tainted and singing off the same hymn sheet. (sorry I could not resist). This Utopian Chant idea does sound interesting though.  Thread attracted some angst too.

[DragonRacer]

I like creepy theories. LOL
 
That DA2 chantry, though. I'm glad someone posted a video of the music and sound effects stripped because I swear I could hear that low, creepy humming every time I went in there. Never did like that chantry. From the moment I stepped inside, I got a weirded out feeling. I think the darkness combined with the eerie just-under-your-hearing humming simply made it feel like... something wasn't quite right there.
 
Never got that feeling from, say, the Lothering chantry, as a comparison.
 
I mean, I think they were probably trying to mimic the grand, ancient cathedrals in England and Europe... but even though those are sometimes dark and filled with the sounds of people chanting, the few I have visited just simply came off as historical and powerful... not creepy like the Kirkwall chantry.
 
If that was meant as foreshadowing of its impending demise in a rather subliminal way, hats off on that. Worked on me. I always made it a point to do my business and then leave that chantry as quickly as possible before Something Bad Might Happen™. Because that was the feeling I got every time I stepped foot in it.
 
I sort of attributed that to The Enigma of Kirkwall in general, though. Bad, bad voodoo under that city.

[Big I]

The Cult of the Maker did exist before Andraste. She didn't introduce the concept of the Maker to Thedas as return Thedas to worship of the Maker.

 

 

There is zero evidence this is the case. There is not, for example, an "old testament" part of the Chant. There has been no mention in any DA material of ANY monotheistic religion prior to Andraste. Tevinter worshipped the old gods, dwarves worshipped the Stone and the ancestors, the Avvars worshipped their own pantheon, and I assume the elven slaves of Tevinter worshipped the Dalish gods (or else their religion would not have survived to the present). That is all we know.

[ElvaliaRavenHart]

I would agree the Darkspawn are hearing a corrupted version of Andraste's music.  I always thought it odd that Morrigan shakes her head at Leliana when she sings in camp and it was creepy what the mother said in Awakenings about the song.  There is also the sword you pick up in DA2 called Her Song. 

 

I think there is some type of connection, we just don't know what it is.  Is the lyrium and the way it sings the reason the demons and darkspawn in the world behave the way they do?   We still don't have the answer as to why the darkspawn are connected to the fade from what Wynne tells us in DAO.  This has always bothered me that we don't have this information.

[Anvos]

Considering its generally accepted that the fade and Golden City existed before the physical plane its unlikely that the chant of light created any part of the Golden City.  

 

Plus the games put enough to suggest that the Chant was a man made creation considering how its been edited multiple times to fit the Chantry's views such as removing Shartan's verses and the fact that the verses you find in the cultist temple are considered lost.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I don't really understand the OP. There is a Chantry holy text and it is called the Chant of Light. And it was written after the arrival of the darkspawn because it is mainly about the story and sayings of Andraste. Andraste is the one who the Chantry derive the Maker's commandments from.

 

If you are saying there is some other thing also called the Chant of Light that the darkspawn spread, I don't really see the reasoning. The music the darkspawn are driven by is the song of the Old Gods.

 

I also don't even really understand what the full implication is. If Fen'Harel wants to spread the "Chant of Light" as a Blight over all the world, why do Andraste's followers think they should spread word of the Maker over all the world?

 

Those are two completely different things.

 

The other thing is that even the elves probably don't think that would be Fen'Harel's goal. He's a tricker god, and I can see him unleashing the Blight but if the darkspawn kill everyone in the world, then there is no-one left to trick.

[Brass_Buckles]

I don't really understand the OP. There is a Chantry holy text and it is called the Chant of Light. And it was written after the arrival of the darkspawn because it is mainly about the story and sayings of Andraste. Andraste is the one who the Chantry derive the Maker's commandments from.

 

If you are saying there is some other thing also called the Chant of Light that the darkspawn spread, I don't really see the reasoning. The music the darkspawn are driven by is the song of the Old Gods.

 

I also don't even really understand what the full implication is. If Fen'Harel wants to spread the "Chant of Light" as a Blight over all the world, why do Andraste's followers think they should spread word of the Maker over all the world?

 

Those are two completely different things.

 

The other thing is that even the elves probably don't think that would be Fen'Harel's goal. He's a tricker god, and I can see him unleashing the Blight but if the darkspawn kill everyone in the world, then there is no-one left to trick.

 

The Chant of Light was written AFTER Andraste.

 

Also to Anvos:  I wasn't saying that the Chant of Light was the music that made the roads of the Golden City, but that music ties in to pretty much everything and perhaps to the gods/Maker as well.  Corrupt the music in the Golden City, send someone there, and they come back corrupted too.

 

If this theory were true, basically, the written Chant of Light is merely a human mimicry of the actual Chant of Light, which is not a written thing, but would be either corrupted (blight) or something else entirely.

 

Edited to add:  The Blight doesn't necessarily kill everything, but it does corrupt.  Corrupted females may become broodmothers.  Corrupted animals may adapt to that corruption and continue to live (like the corrupted spiders).  If the Maker were Fen'Harel, or Fen'harel had tricked eveyrone into thinking he's the Maker, how do we know that the blighted, corrupted world isn't precisely what he wants?

 

Incidentally, the Fen'Harel as the Maker theory is another I don't fully subscribe to, though it's a fun enough theory and there's some evidence that might even back it up.  Could be that each race has their own good and bad gods... which are good for them, but not good for the other races.  So, Fen'Harel might be good to humans, but horrible to the elves.

 

Again, it's just a fun creepy theory that I don't think actually is what the lore points to, but it's fun to speculate about this stuff so that's what I'm doing.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Yeah it was written after Andraste, but it was written about her and the things she said.

 

Most corrupted things eventually die from it. Even broodmothers. I think the Spiders are the only example of any organism permanently adapting to the darkspawn taint.

[Dean_the_Young]

This theory is totally true- it's one of the lost canticles of the Chant.

 

'And yea, this is a religion of total evil, which will rule over the Blighted World in the Maker's name when the Maker returns and unleashes darkspawn on your asses.'

 

It was in the Chant, but the Chantry removed it so people wouldn't no. Because the Chantry is evil, obviously.

[Dr. Doctor]

I might be wrong, but doesn't the Chantry hold the belief that the Maker will return if the Chant of Light is sung across all four corners of the world?

 

If there are specific points in Thedas that act as linchpins for the Veil (like the Old God prison shown in the concept art) then perhaps the Chant when applied correctly can weaken, and potentially dispel the Veil. Think something along the lines of a supercharged Litany of Adralla.

[efd731]

I might be wrong, but doesn't the Chantry hold the belief that the Maker will return if the Chant of Light is sung across all four corners of the world?

If there are specific points in Thedas that act as linchpins for the Veil (like the Old God prison shown in the concept art) then perhaps the Chant when applied correctly can weaken, and potentially dispel the Veil. Think something along the lines of a supercharged Litany of Adralla.

Now this got my attention! As far as fan theory's go, that one holds water in my opinion

[Jedi Master of Orion]

I don't think the Chantry believes the Chant needs to be sung from four literal points in the world.

[Jack Druthers]

Quote from the brothers chanting in the Lothering Chantry:

 

And when the Maker spoke, the Chant of light scattered in the darkness;

the Word dispelled fear and ignorance.

When the Chant spreads across all corners of the world,

let it rise at last to the ears of the Maker.

Let those who cry out from the shadows be comforted.

Let those who seek redemption be delivered.

Let those who have sinned, be forgiven.

And then shall the maker return to us.

And then shall the Maker return to the Black City in Heaven.

And then shall the Chant of light make it pure.

Let him hear our unwavering faith.

Let him hear our righteous dedication, and enduring perseverance.

let all mankind be humbled.

Let all repeat the Chant of light.

Only the Word dispels the darkness upon us.

[Laughing_Man]

There is a basic problem with all this.

 

If you assume that the Chantry's version is unreliable, why do you still assume the part about the chant of light being sung from the "four corners of thedas" (why do religious people always assume that their world is a flat square?) is something that is in any way connected to reality?

[Aulis Vaara]

Personally, I'm not sure the Golden City story, in any variant, is actually the origin of the darkspawn, for other reasons.  But that's a topic for another thread, on another night.

 

 

Your whole post was intriguing, but this has really got my attention. Please, please share.

[bairdduvessa]

wow interesting and plausible theory and that video some one posted is creepy as all hell.  

 

i have a feeling that if we ever discover the true origins of the Golden City and the Blight, that it will be something like that, which will shatter the Chantry.  Which is one of the reasons I hope that we eventually see more of the Awakened. 

 

However I always interpreted the "singing" of the Archdemons to be more like a telepathic thing, and maybe their language is akin to Swedish with it's sing song like quality.

 

I like your theory better.

[HunterX6]

I remember a thread on the old Forums where someone speculated what the OP suggests.  They were saying that perhaps the idea of the Maker returning and fulfilling the promise of paradise in Thedas was to do with everyone being tainted and singing off the same hymn sheet. (sorry I could not resist). This Utopian Chant idea does sound interesting though.  Thread attracted some angst too.

that would be a kind of sad ending but with a final good one in away. I like it. I just imagine everyone fighting each other then the demos come out, then they try to gather against the demons and darkspawns but in the end everyone falls to the taint while some pray and chant to the maker in all corners of the world while the world turns black and dark around them making some kind of powerful summoning for the maker to come in from where ever he is and cleanse the land. I leave the details to bioware lol