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#551
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As i said i didn't said that she didn't improved but improved doesn't meant she is the best besides she helds spot because first she have bard trening second divine trust her.

 

Eee you know they surrendered which mean they were outmached?

 

point was not every protagonist = physical god especially in books and movies that tend keep protagonist "normal" or even worse than normal.

So apparently you think people can improve, but never become the best through improving. That's what I'm getting from you. 

 

Yeah, but by how many? Plus there was Marjoilaine and the Chevalier to consider. Fighting them would surely result in their death, so they surrendered. 

 

And my point was your example of that had a mage vs a Templar, so not a regular nonmage but a man trained exactly for that fight.

 

I can see once again this will lead to arguing in circles, so I'm dropping out.



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So apparently you think people can improve, but never become the best through improving. That's what I'm getting from you. 

 

Yeah, but by how many? Plus there was Marjoilaine and the Chevalier to consider. Fighting them would surely result in their death, so they surrendered. 

 

And my point was your example of that had a mage vs a Templar, so not a regular nonmage but a man trained exactly for that fight.

 

I can see once again this will lead to arguing in circles, so I'm dropping out.

oh god like talking to the child i meant that she was well trained but to become best you need something more than traning...

 

marjolene and 3 merceneries if i renember correctly so they were outmached.

 

it wasn't point of my example at first it was point to show not every protagonist is god that the warden was one doesn't mean that rhys is on smiliar level or evangeline gosh...



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oh god like talking to the child i meant that she was well trained but to become best you need something more than traning...

 

marjolene and 3 merceneries if i renember correctly so they were outmached.

 

it wasn't point of my example at first it was point to show not every protagonist is god that the warden was one doesn't mean that rhys is on smiliar level or evangeline gosh...

I said I was leaving, but I have to ask: What more do you need, TKS?



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Maybe a Boss...if he were lucky.

 

Loghain qualified as a "Boss" so I'd assume Lambert would as well if not better.



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Doesn't Ser Michel, a chevalier, kill a demon in "Masked Empire"? Demons tend to be stronger than most mages.



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I said I was leaving, but I have to ask: What more do you need, TKS?

Well your call you posted response and i asnwered on those argument if you want leave as i said it is your own decision and you could just not respond if you wanted leave :whistle:



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Indeed. While Lambert wasn't the best Seeker, politically at least, he was definitely one of the best soldiers to come from the Templars we've seen thus far.

Plus, he could almost sense Cole in the beginning of the novel.



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Well your call you posted response and i asnwered on those argument if you want leave as i said it is your own decision and you could just not respond if you wanted leave :whistle:

I'm not responding to your post, but asking something completely different. What besides skill does someone need to be the best?



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I'm not responding to your post, but asking something completely different. What besides skill does someone need to be the best?

 

Experience? Education? You need many things to make a seasoned warrior, they are not merely investitures of personal skill.



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Experience? Education? You need many things to make a seasoned warrior, they are not merely investitures of personal skill.

I know, but Leliana has both of those. TKS still thinks that's not enough apparently, so I'm curious as to what else he thinks is required.



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I'm not responding to your post, but asking something completely different. What besides skill does someone need to be the best?

 

Many things if you don't have talent to become best you can train your entire life and you won't be best then even if you have talend you need experience , years and years of traning , luck and appropriate approach not mention many other factors...



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Many things if you don't have talent to become best you can train your entire life and you won't be best then even if you have talend you need experience , years and years of traning , luck and appropriate approach not mention many other factors...

Simply saying 'many other factors' doesn't answer my question. 



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Simply saying 'many other factors' doesn't answer my question. 

 

Well i answered your question with few factors but as in life we have many factors that drive our life pointing every of them would be huge list even bad teacher is factor so well... 



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Maybe a Boss...if he were lucky.

 

 

Loghain qualified as a "Boss" so I'd assume Lambert would as well if not better.

Well, he would outrank/qualify meredith and she was a boss, so I would say he would be a boss.



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Many things if you don't have talent to become best you can train your entire life and you won't be best then even if you have talend you need experience , years and years of traning , luck and appropriate approach not mention many other factors...

 

even so experience and training are  the most important factors. And you can say whatever you want of tevinter they conquered nearly the whole of thedas (and if they did so with the aid of demons it only shows their mastery as they could control the demons) fereldan would have fallen time if it was not for the blight. And even after 100 hundred years of blight and massive civil turmoil the barbarians still failed to destroy the tevinters. thats not weakness that incredible strength. But plz keep deluding yourself mate over some ****** poor examples of under trained mages in a bad position



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Well, he would outrank/qualify meredith and she was a boss, so I would say he would be a boss.

 

Its very likely he is possesed by cole however



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Its very likely he is possesed by cole however

Thats an assumption.  He could be dead, he could be alive and cole could have been beaten back with his tail between his legs for all we know.  We don't even know that cole would know how to possess.  Justice didn't know how to leave the body he inhabited in DAA.

 

I wouldn't mind if he possessed by Cole, it would be a sad fate for one of the more complex and interesting characters in DA, but I would enjoy killing Cole/Lambert at the same time.


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even so experience and training are  the most important factors. And you can say whatever you want of tevinter they conquered nearly the whole of thedas (and if they did so with the aid of demons it only shows their mastery as they could control the demons) fereldan would have fallen time if it was not for the blight. And even after 100 hundred years of blight and massive civil turmoil the barbarians still failed to destroy the tevinters. thats not weakness that incredible strength. But plz keep deluding yourself mate over some ****** poor examples of under trained mages in a bad position

when i agree without talent you won't move much in forward so well talent is basis. They had archdemon/s and dragons on their side so well add to that blood magic and no much competition in that times now they couldn't even take orlais and conquer anything because that would end badly for them. Wow barbarians lost but kicked them powerfuly what a achievement they defeated barbarians and only because barbarians were backstabbed  ;) 

 

Yeah i will kepp deluding myself with that horrible truth that mages are losing almot every their fight in series oh what examples mean screw logic! ;) 



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I wouldn't mind if he possessed by Cole, it would be a sad fate for one of the more complex and interesting characters in DA, but I would enjoy killing Cole/Lambert at the same time.

 

Cole/Lambert. Cole... bert. Colbert.



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Cole/Lambert. Cole... bert. Colbert.

 

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is the face of Lambert possessed by Cole. 


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If that is the case, then the player is f*****.

 

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If that is the case, then the player is f*****.

 

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Hey, he's not as good as John Stewart. If John Stewart was a templar, that would be scary. 



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Hey, he's not as good as John Stewart. If John Stewart was a templar, that would be scary. 

Jon Stewart will have to be on the Mage side to help even it out. :P



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Jon Stewart will have to be on the Mage side to help even it out. :P

 

You sure? I thought Sean Hannity or Mark Levin would be on the mage side.  :P