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[mitch shepard for ash]

In mass effect 3 I was wondering how much more content you can get from a character by using them on certain missions and I was wondering can you use ashley on the tuchanka platoon and tuchanka bomb mission as well as the rachni side mission. On previous playthroughs I have used her on the platoon and bomb missions but I wanted to know can I use her on the rachni mission aswell or does it have to be one set of missions or the other will they disappear if I leave it to long.

[themikefest]

Ashley cannot be on those three missions in one playthrough. You would have to do it in two playthroughs. You can do Turian Platoon, cure/sabotage the genophage, Citadel coup and then take Ashley for the bomb mission and then do the Rachni mission. If you do Rachni, genophage and coup, the platoon and bomb missions can be done before you talk with the Asari councillor before Thessia otherwise the bomb explodes no matter what. Rachni mission will be available until you do Chronos

 

I have taken Ashley on every side mission except Grissom. 

 

Grissom Academy has to be done before the Citadel Coup otherwise its presumed they're dead. If Jack is in ME3, she will be a phantom when you encounter her on Chronos.

 

Each character has different dialogue on each mission.

[RedCaesar97]

You must complete either the Missing Krogan Scouts mission (the Rachni mission) or the Turian Platoon mission to unlock The Shroud mission. Note that after completing the Turian Platoon mission, you must complete the Bomb Site mission within 3 missions or the bomb will detonate and the mission will disappear. So to get more missions out of Kaiden/Ashley, I recommend completing the Rachni mission since it is only one mission (not two) and you can pick up the Claymore. That will get you Ashley/Kaiden quicker and still leave you two more missions that you can take Ashley/Kaiden on.

 

You must complete the Grissom Academy mission before the starting the Citadel Coup mission or it will disappear. (The Citadel Coup starts as soon as land on the Citadel after completing The Shroud). So you cannot take Ashley/Kaiden on this mission.

 

Note that the following missions have fetch quests items that can be returned to the Citadel only before The Shroud: N7: Cerberus Abductions (Benning), N7: Cerberus Attack (Tuchanka), N7: Cerberus Lab (Sanctum), and Grissom Academy. So you can complete the N7 missions with Ashley/Kaiden ,but you will not get the Reputation/credits/War Assets from these missions if you wait until after the Citadel Coup.

[mitch shepard for ash]

Ok cheers guys Yh I forgot you have to one of them to unlock the cure genophage mission I usually do rachni first then use ash on the turian platoon and tuchanka bomb but i wondered what would happen if I used her on the rachni mission but Yh like you said you gettwo missions with them if you do it the other way.

[von uber]

Javik is good value on thessia.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Javik is good value on thessia.

 

Best squadmate to have. Explains a lot about 'Asari supremacy' and makes Liara squirm.

 

As for Ashley; to talk about her or not? That is the question. I'm infamous for my... feelings about her.

[Darks1d3]

I'm actually curious to know who you...dislike more. Ashley or Liara?

 

I have seen you play the "devil's advocate" for Liara recently, and I also remember that you have figured out how Ashley dies in your fanfic but not Liara. In fact, you toy with the idea of just letting her go back to her archaeology....hmm, it appears I just appeased my own curiosity.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

I'm actually curious to know who you...dislike more. Ashley or Liara?

 

I have seen you play the "devil's advocate" for Liara recently, and I also remember that you have figured out how Ashley dies in your fanfic but not Liara. In fact, you toy with the idea of just letting her go back to her archaeology....hmm, it appears I just appeased my own curiosity.

 

I very strongly dislike Liara... but she's third after Tali and Ashley in who I utterly despise. Of course, there's no love for any of them from me. Granted, she's a worthless squadmate, having almost no reason to be on the team in any aspect. So she's a good biotic: why can't I get an Asari Commando or a Justicar like Samara full time? Ditto for Ashley. I've stated my professional opinion as an Army Officer myself why I think Ashley is a ****** poor choice for bringing her on, as well as an admittedly nitpicky assessment of her tactical abilities. Liara I feel would be a bit pointless to kill. I do have her get **** on for the most part in my fic, but I think my single largest complaint with her is that I think she's way too much of perfect mary-sue character. I like having her get knocked down to idiocy, and I like having Shepard to nut up or shut up. She wants to play pretend military, she better do it right.

[DeinonSlayer]

Out of four Shepards, three saved Ashley at Virmire. One romanced her, then lost her at the Citadel, and the remaining two I discovered had zero use for her skillset. It doesn't help that her Marksman ability doesn't work and she has absolutely nothing to say and never leaves her room on the Normandy.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Out of four Shepards, three saved Ashley at Virmire. One romanced her, then lost her at the Citadel, and the remaining two I discovered had zero use for her skillset. It doesn't help that her Marksman ability doesn't work and she has absolutely nothing to say and never leaves her room on the Normandy.

 

Yeah. Kind of weird too, considering that she was touted as one of the bigger characters making a comeback. I keep her alive for Marksman, then usually send her off to Hackett. 

 

I'm doing a Kaidan survival runthrough right now. It might end up being the canon for him. Too early to tell, I'm still on ME1. Personally, in universe, unless you're banging Ashley, I don't see a reason to save her. She has a destabilizing and 'toxic' personality, she doesn't have an outstanding skillset that sets her apart from her peers, let alone any other NCO worth their crap in the military, and she has a sort of fawning, downright worshipping ideal of the alliance.

[DeinonSlayer]

Yeah. Kind of weird too, considering that she was touted as one of the bigger characters making a comeback. I keep her alive for Marksman, then usually send her off to Hackett.

I'm doing a Kaidan survival runthrough right now. It might end up being the canon for him. Too early to tell, I'm still on ME1. Personally, in universe, unless you're banging Ashley, I don't see a reason to save her. She has a destabilizing and 'toxic' personality, she doesn't have an outstanding skillset that sets her apart from her peers, let alone any other NCO worth their crap in the military, and she has a sort of fawning, downright worshipping ideal of the alliance.

As opposed to a fawning ideal of Cerberus?

Seriously though, they really did dumb down her character as the series progressed. I'd have liked the option to agree with her bear-and-dog analogy. You've heard it from me before: as I see it, every species looks out for themselves first and foremost. It's only natural, and it's no sin to recognize the situation as such and for humanity to do the same.

But yeah, not gonna get into the whole "lieutenant commander" business. Reminds me of that episode of M*A*S*H where Radar got promoted for no reason and nobody respected his unearned rank.

[DeinonSlayer]

Just curious, Massively, since you know more about these things than I do: at the conclusion of ME1, assuming she survived, if you were to transfer Ashley off of the Normandy, what would the next step be to give her some career progression, given her existing skillset? What would be the next step up, provided she did her job competently while under your command and earned that kind of opportunity? OCS, or something else?

[mitch shepard for ash]

I romanced ashley through all 3 games and personally she is my favrouite thts why I use her,liara I never got on with really she annoys me sometimes and I don't like that she is shoved down the players throat in 3. I like the fact Ashley isnt really favrouite coz she's my fav and it makes it a bit more individual.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

Just curious, Massively, since you know more about these things than I do: at the conclusion of ME1, assuming she survived, if you were to transfer Ashley off of the Normandy, what would the next step be to give her some career progression, given her existing skillset? What would be the next step up, provided she did her job competently while under your command and earned that kind of opportunity? OCS, or something else?

 

Transfer to a line unit. Get her out in the Traverse, or send her to Earth as a training NCO. OCS is a possibility, but her blacklist is going to keep her from going far in that aspect. She doesn't have the creativity, adaptability, or willingness to get her hands dirty that Special Operations require. Don't put her on any mixed species assignments.

 

Ideally, she never would have been on the Normandy after Eden Prime. She doesn't have anywhere close to the skillset or qualifications to be on the sort of mission we're conducting. She doesn't have the kind of perspective that I'm looking for, and she doesn't have the capability or experience to justify her presence. She was essentially given the job by Anderson out of charity. Even if I didn't completely hate her, she's not what I'm looking for. I'd most likely send her back to an identical assignment. 

 

I've gone into this with a few people: suffice to say, her blacklisting, while admittedly unfair, really does put a hamper on what she's capable of. It's my job to be unbiased and unfluenced by these things. And her blacklisting ensures she's not a suitable candidate. It's kept her from gaining valuable experience in the field or skills from special schools or training (think Airborne, Air Assault, Ranger, etc.) While not mandatory, if she wants to be a combat soldier, it's an unspoken rule that you need those as you advance. Look up any high-ranking Infantry Officer (or any IO over the rank of Captain) or any High-ranking Infantry NCO: I guarantee that each of them will have special skills that I would expect would still be a standard even in Mass Effect. There's a reason for this. They're all very highly skilled, and they gain a broadened knowledge base. There's no reason they shouldn't have such qualifications. If I were an Infantry Battalion Commander, and I had an Lt on the promotion board that didn't have at the very least Airborne and Air Assault, I would be having alarm bells going off over this guy and wondering why he's not having the superior skills. Same goes for the Command Sergeant Major and any First Sergeant worth his dirt.

[von uber]

For the drunk scene in the lounge alone ash will subsequently never make it off virmire ever again.

[MassivelyEffective0730]

For the drunk scene in the lounge alone ash will subsequently never make it off virmire ever again.

 

Yeah, that was pretty crappy. And to be fair, that's about the last time you ever get to talk to her again.