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[NRieh]

[ ] Yes

[ ] No

[ ] Maybe

Why no 

[ ] All of the above

?! 

[JeffZero]

I really wish that JUST-THIS-ONCE-I-PROMISE BioWare would inexplicably listen to me and only me, because I'm much more interested in sending those two characters off in some bookendish fashion apropos to the dangling elements the writers intentionally applied to them than I am in seeing my unique versions of them receive any personally-desired treatment.

Just this once. I promise!

[FarDareisMai]

My best theory on the Hawke/Warden appearance is pretty simple...what if, like with Hawke, the story of the Warden was a story being told. Choosing their appearance would basically just be how we thought they looked and the reality of their appearance could then be very different. Suspension of belief is pretty much key when it comes to those two characters. Will I be upset if my Hawke and Warden don't look the way I chose them to? Nope. As long as they are a bit snarky, and are rogue (as I played them) I'm happy.

[Damien-III]

Why do we need a look. Have someone just tell the story where they are and what they're doing. We don't need pictures.

[Naesaki]

My best theory on the Hawke/Warden appearance is pretty simple...what if, like with Hawke, the story of the Warden was a story being told. Choosing their appearance would basically just be how we thought they looked and the reality of their appearance could then be very different. Suspension of belief is pretty much key when it comes to those two characters. Will I be upset if my Hawke and Warden don't look the way I chose them to? Nope. As long as they are a bit snarky, and are rogue (as I played them) I'm happy.

I do wonder what the default personality is for the Warden, and if they both do appear, I hope the personality type you went with is locked in for Hawke's appearance, so in my case a snarky hawke

 

The waiting to truly find out about all this is so hard right now

[FarDareisMai]

As for the voice choices, I'm really curious about that. I wonder if one will be more soft and the other will be more raspy or tough sounding. For example: Female Hawke had a (what I considered) soft voice and Cassandra had a more authoritative voice. I'd personally like a more Cassandra-esque voice.

[Zu Long]

I'll throw in my guess on how this will work- At the beginning, when you are importing history/creating your Inquisitor, a box pops up:

 

"Two other people are very important to the History of Thedas and will appear in this game- The Warden, and The Champion of Kirkwall. Do you wish to customize them?"

 

If yes, go customize. If no, then on with the game.

 

As for the Warden's voice, the Warden took damage to his/her throat during their disappearance, as related by Hawke. They now communicate in gestures. Boom. Easy.

[colemanshane]

How would they justify Warriors and Rogues having this ability, tough?

 

There were Fade Warriors in Awakening.

Don't remember if that's the correct title, but they could sort of Manipulate the fade.

[SleepyBird]

Wasn't it mentioned somewhere that if the Origins Warden was dead, Cassandra was talking about the Awakening Warden-Commander?

If I understand correctly, it's not currently actually possible for both wardens to exist in the same universe. If you import an ultimate sacrifice game from Origins to Awakening, the warden is resurrected and the Orlesian warden never existed. When you begin a playthrough of DA2, you can import from: 1) Awakenings with a surviving (or resurrected) warden, 2) Awakenings with no Origins import and an Olesian warden, or 3) Origins with either a surviving or dead warden but no Awakenings warden. Maybe the Keep process will change this and allow for the co-existence of both the Hero of Ferelden and the Orlesian warden, but at the time the statement was made in Dragon Age 2, there is only one warden that Cassandra and Lilliana could possibly be discussing (and that is only the Orlesian warden in the rare case of an import from Awakenings with no previous import from Origins), unless they are talking of another as yet unintroduced warden, which seems anti-climactic.

I have not personally played awakenings with an imported sacrificed warden, maybe someone else can clarify how the resurrection happens? Does Alistair die in the wardens place? Does the game assume the ritual was performed? Is no explanation given? I've heard contradicting stories and would be interested to have this cleared up.

[Jedi Master of Orion]

The resurrected Warden is not canon. It's just an oversight. I thought If you played the game with your warden, made the ultimate sacrifice and then played Awakening with them, DA2 treats it like the Orlesian Warden was the Warden Commander.

[Hellion Rex]

There were Fade Warriors in Awakening.

Don't remember if that's the correct title, but they could sort of Manipulate the fade.

Spirit Warriors is the correct title.

[katerinafm]

I'd suggest taking the translations and quotes with a grain of salt, people. It could have been an assumption from the writer, or a mix up in the translation. They could mean 'Morrigan, Hawke and the Warden COULD appear in Inquisition, but if they do, they won't be playable'.

[JeffZero]

I'd suggest taking the translations and quotes with a grain of salt, people. It could have been an assumption from the writer, or a mix up in the translation. They could mean 'Morrigan, Hawke and the Warden COULD appear in Inquisition, but if they do, they won't be playable'.

We actually have a native German speaker who's confirmed it says what we think it says, but I'm still not going to take it as official until BioWare confirms it, because hey, you never know.

[Tinxa]

I think the journalist likely misinterpreted something. Maybe they said Morrigan, Warden and Hawke won't be companions and then went on that Morrigan would appear and the journalist misunderstood they meant all three. They did write the wrong name for Solas in the article too.

[katerinafm]

We actually have a native German speaker who's confirmed it says what we think it says, but I'm still not going to take it as official until BioWare confirms it, because hey, you never know.

 

It could still be a mix up with how the journalist wrote it. We see it in the DA dev tweets all the time. 'Oh you meant to ask this? I was talking about this but made it sound like something else by accident'.

 

We should also be especially skeptical since David Gaider has been pretty to the point about Hawke and the Warden not making an appearance unless it's done 'exactly right' ever since people started asking about it.  

[azarhal]

There were Fade Warriors in Awakening.

Don't remember if that's the correct title, but they could sort of Manipulate the fade.

 

Their powers come from a spirit and the Spirit Warrior description sound like it's not that far away from an abomination (the Wynne kind): they flirt with inhabitants of the Fade who agree to augment mortal abilities in exchange for a glimpse of the physical world.

 

Now though, if the Inquisitor is actually the possessed party members this time around (we had Wynne, Justice and Anders/Justice so far), it could explain a few things.

[JeffZero]

Yeah, it'll be interesting to see if other journalists say anything about it once the blackout ends.

[ElitePinecone]

My best theory on the Hawke/Warden appearance is pretty simple...what if, like with Hawke, the story of the Warden was a story being told. Choosing their appearance would basically just be how we thought they looked and the reality of their appearance could then be very different. Suspension of belief is pretty much key when it comes to those two characters. Will I be upset if my Hawke and Warden don't look the way I chose them to? Nope. As long as they are a bit snarky, and are rogue (as I played them) I'm happy.

 

People would HATE this, though.

 

With Hawke we knew what we were getting into, but revealing that everything we'd played in Origins was just a story would be possibly the worst way to introduce a defined appearance and character for the Warden. Let alone if it was explicitly for the purpose of saying that the Warden we created didn't actually exist, and that the "real" one looks different.

 

Anecdotally people are even more attached to the Warden as a character than they were to Shepard, and I can't even begin to imagine the backlash if Bioware retroactively said that the character wasn't real. 

[SilkieBantam]

The Warden and Hawke appearing? I'll just...take that with a big ol' gallon of salt. 

[Heimdall]

People would HATE this, though.
 
With Hawke we knew what we were getting into, but revealing that everything we'd played in Origins was just a story would be possibly the worst way to introduce a defined appearance and character for the Warden. Let alone if it was explicitly for the purpose of saying that the Warden we created didn't actually exist, and that the "real" one looks different.
 
Anecdotally people are even more attached to the Warden as a character than they were to Shepard, and I can't even begin to imagine the backlash if Bioware retroactively said that the character wasn't real.

I'm not sure that's what's being suggested. I took it to mean that the Warden's appearance IN INQUISITION would be a story, thus justifying a default appearance via the unreliable narrator.

[ElitePinecone]

I'm not sure that's what's being suggested. I took it to mean that the Warden's appearance IN INQUISITION would be a story, thus justifying a default appearance via the unreliable narrator.

 

Oh. Now I understand. 

 

That could probably work, though you'd have to point out who the Warden was otherwise they'd just look like a random NPC...

[Naesaki]

Oh. Now I understand. 

 

That could probably work, though you'd have to point out who the Warden was otherwise they'd just look like a random NPC...

Makes me think if Leliana has an active role and she does find the Warden, she may comes across the inquisitor with him/her in tow and she introduces him/her

 

I really am interested by all this, but still having the 100% pure truth about this matter would help immensely 

[Fowl]

Let me clarify again: The original German text only says that Hawke and the Warden won't be playable companions. If you're so inclined, you could also interpret the wording to mean that they might make an appearance. Which is completely intentional since Bioware have left that possibility open. Lost in translation and all that.

[Enad]

Can't wait for english news sites to start posting their previews.  

If only Bioware would clarify all this hearsay we're getting that could very well be lost in translation.

[Cainhurst Crow]

You know, I'm pretty glad that this hasn't turned into a "bioware must die for their sins" thread yet. That's usually how these things go when people find out information they don't automatically like. Pleasant to see actually.

 

Can't say I would be disappointed with the hawke or warden showing up truth be told. Been through so many of them with so many variations over the years, I basically don't have any sort of personal emotional tie to their story. As long as they do a good job with them, telling a good story with their apperance as they did with revan's in swtor, I won't care what they make them look like.

 

Having them just be random npc baddies with no dialogue or face though? Really guys? You want to give them a shitty ass exit and end like that, just so you don't have to have your personal image of the warden and hawke challenged? I don't see how anyone could claim that you actually care about the characters if you're so okay with treating them like ****.