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[GTRSX]

Which of the above 4 soldiers would you consider to have the best DPS potential? I know all 4 of them are equally good and its hard to go wrong with any of them. But what does BSN think about the best one from the above?

 

IMO i feel the Destroyer is the best of all worlds. He gets RoF Boost/Clip Size Boost, Damage Boost and MFG nades. Though note that HSol/Quarksman also have the potential to reach higher DPS.

 

So what do you guys/gals think?

 

 

Note: Weapons spec GTS not included because i feel he is slightly inferior but more tankier than Destroyer, but if you want to compare with him, sure go ahead!

[Alfonsedode]

mayeb the staggering issue goes with U on that.

Personnally i am conformtable with neither of them, but might try Hsol/Tsol more to get a better grip and even some fun with them !

[TheNightSlasher]

TSol is the best soldier IMO. Hsol is a close second. QMS is a slightly gimped version of TSol but he has a dodge.

As for the destroyer, i only enjoy the dm-less version with venom. He feels too boring to me with typhoon or PPR and only resorting to rha through out the match.

[FuriousFelicia]

Destroyer in my case. I don't like not being able to dodge so TSol gets to go first, marksman is good but I prefer HM or DM simply because it requires no brain - set and forget. Though on Destroyer I might switch it off sometimes to hop away from danger.
Human is good, for my prefferences it's better than both Turian and Quarian.

That's it for me. I frequently use Destroyer and carry only Claymore. For me he's the best with it, even the GI who is a monster when paired with that boom stick doesn't give me so much pleasure when using the Claymore.

Quarksman is perhaps the most interesting kit here but my thought on marksman kits is that I need something with enough dakka. I played him with Typhoon and while the gun feels great on him, I find that kind of play style is not for me.
I'm primarily a power user, and the only two kits I play as weapons platforms are Destroyer and Juggy, interestingly both with Claymore.

Objectively: Destroyer, TSol, HSol, Quarksman

[GTRSX]

mayeb the staggering issue goes with U on that.

Personnally i am conformtable with neither of them, but might try Hsol/Tsol more to get a better grip and even some fun with them !

Yes full stagger resistance wins it for me but i like the others too. And his armor looks so damn cool too!

[GTRSX]

Destroyer in my case. I don't like not being able to dodge so TSol gets to go first, marksman is good but I prefer HM or DM simply because it requires no brain - set and forget. Though on Destroyer I might switch it off sometimes to hop away from danger.
Human is good, for my prefferences it's better than both Turian and Quarian.

That's it for me. I frequently use Destroyer and carry only Claymore. For me he's the best with it, even the GI who is a monster when paired with that boom stick doesn't give me so much pleasure when using the Claymore.

Quarksman is perhaps the most interesting kit here but my thought on marksman kits is that I need something with enough dakka. I played him with Typhoon and while the gun feels great on him, I find that kind of play style is not for me.
I'm primarily a power user, and the only two kits I play as weapons platforms are Destroyer and Juggy, interestingly both with Claymore.

Objectively: Destroyer, TSol, HSol, Quarksman

Destroyer + Claymore eh? Sounds interesting! I only used either the Piranha/Venom/GPS on him. Will give claymore a go too and see how it will be!!

[TheNightSlasher]

If you wanna use claymore, use HSol. HSol is one of the best users of claymore.

[dudemacha]

QMS>Hsol/Tsol>destroyer

 

QMS, combination of MM and TS with lighter weapons = death everywhere....and DODGE !!

 

Hsol, double tap claymore, infinite typhoon, nades cc, cryo soldier ........

 

Tsol, most badass turian who can make any gun better....but no dodge and practically unusable debuff pushes him down the order

 

Destroyer, While still a top notch soldier, he is a bit boring relative to others

 

GTS, lowest damage potential here....only thing going is survivability

[GTRSX]

If you wanna use claymore, use HSol. HSol is one of the best users of claymore.

I know. I have used it on all the major characters i can think of but not the destroyer! Will see how different it will be!

[QU67]

For me, it goes TSol, Quarksman, Hsol, Destroyer.

 

The Turian's weapon passives and Proximity Mine set him a bit above the Quarian, who, with my build, dishes out just as much if not more damage than the TSol if you can get reliable headshots. Why is the Quarian below the Turian then? The Turian is easier to use.

 

I don't use the Human Solider much, mostly because I like Marksman more than Adrenaline Rush, but I'll have to use him a bit more now. I used to love the Destroyer but now I find him so boring and slow. And my Venom is only at 1, so I'm not making the pure Venom build for a while.... like, never.

[ClydeInTheShell]

I think the Quarksman & Turian Soldier have better team synergy and therefore, the potential for higher DPS when paired with teammates who can take advantage of their respective debuffs. Tech Vulnerability, Tactical Scan & Proximity Mine, respectively, open the door for your team to light enemies up, whereas the Human Soldier & Destroyer don't get such bonuses. Don't get me wrong, DM & AR are both great for damage boosts and the other bonuses, but I prefer being able to give the whole team an advantage rather than just myself.

 

That's my case for the Marksman kits, and of the two even though my love for Quarians is through the roof, I give the edge to the Turian Soldier. Proxy Mine & Concussive Shot are so important for staggering with him not having a dodge, and the Turian passives don't hurt either.

 

1) Turian Soldier

2) Quarksman

3) Destroyer

4) Human Soldier

[GTRSX]

QMS>Hsol/Tsol>destroyer

 

QMS, combination of MM and TS with lighter weapons = death everywhere....and DODGE !!

 

Hsol, double tap claymore, infinite typhoon, nades cc, cryo soldier ........

 

Tsol, most badass turian who can make any gun better....but no dodge and practically unusable debuff pushes him down the order

 

Destroyer, While still a top notch soldier, he is a bit boring relative to others

 

GTS, lowest damage potential here....only thing going is survivability

Cant disagree with that, after seeing you destroy stuff with qms!

[geezer117]

Best soldier IMHO is the flamerless geth trooper. Fast, has a dodge, tanky, pure weapons, Hunter Mode greatly improves survivability and enables wall hacking. 

 

My second is Destroyer. Can't be staggered, powerful grenades. Destroyer mode makes piranha and harrier/H'cane into awesome weapons. I also like the destroyer/striker. 

[Heldarion]

Among those 4, it's probably:

 

Destroyer > HSol = TSol > Quarksman

 

Destroyer has the best passive bonuses + Multi-frag Grenades, TSol has the second best weapon damage bonuses, a proxy mine and a steroid power while HSol has average weapon damage bonus with Adrenaline Rush (=awesome) with Frag Grenades (OP as hell). Quarksman is a slightly weaker version of TSol, but with a dodge.

[GTRSX]

Among those 4, it's probably:

 

Destroyer > HSol = TSol > Quarksman

 

Destroyer has the best passive bonuses + Multi-frag Grenades, TSol has the second best weapon damage bonuses, a proxy mine and a steroid power while HSol has average weapon damage bonus with Adrenaline Rush (=awesome) with Frag Grenades (OP as hell). Quarksman is a slightly weaker version of TSol, but with a dodge.

A nice analysis there mister! But i am inclined to agree. I like the destroyer the most out of those 4.

[FuriousFelicia]

If you wanna use claymore, use HSol. HSol is one of the best users of claymore.

Personally, I get best results with Claymore (accuracy/hit ratio) if I use it alone, meaning no power combinations in between, just boom, reload/cancel, boom.

Smart choke Claymore + DM makes it overall better than TC or hunter in my case. SG amp III, AP rounds, storm trooper gear and you OHK plat ravages (such pleasure). If you get phantoms to bubble, you can OHK them as well provided you're not hosting.
Praetorians are like butter if you pull of that they don't bubble up. And with this setup you can pop heads from across Rio if you're accurate.
It's pure Claymore action, granades for crowds and banshee stopping.

[BridgeBurner]

Destroyer and Weapons Platform trooper. Others ain't even close. Having to press buttons all the time to do good deeps? GTFO!

[ImDedicatedToMyApologies]

havent play tsol only cuz no dodge. havent played quarksman either for unknown reason (noobness?). probably should've.

 

dont play hsol cuz tgi does the same thing (spam ch; free shield; bonus dmg).

 

but destroyer is really good so Im gonna say him.

 

ps: what I say, whether it is right or wrong isnt important. I'm just a random player.

[Losing You to You]

Destroyer and Weapons Platform trooper. Others ain't even close. Having to press buttons all the time to do good deeps? GTFO!

 

Agree. The Trooper is my favourite weapons platform though, he has high DPS with all passive abilities, wallhack, amazing speed + dodge (and gets a bonus to Javelin damage). The mobility and vision makes him much better at surviving as the Destroyer, while still having similar damage output

 

Edit: The GT actually deals more Javelin damage than the Destroyer, and only 30 less Claymore damage (1%)

[Kinom001]

Personally, I go with the Tsol for doing the most damage due to his toolkit. Between Prox. Mine, CS and MM he can deal out a large amount of damage on a single target or multiple targets...depending on how his powers are specced, of course.

[Deerber]

... You do know that having the best DPS potential does not equal being the best kit, at all... Don't you?

If you really meant having the best dps potential, then you need to make a distinction: best spike dps (possibly the most important) or best sustained dps (not that important)? If it's spike dps then it's QMS > possibly Tsol > destroyer > Hsol. If it's sustained dps it's probably destroyer > QMS > Tsol > Hsol... At least until you run out of ammo. Which sometimes is relevant...

On the other hand, if you meant best kit, which I think you did...

The destroyer has an awesome damage output potential, stagger immunity, OMGfucking good grenades as well as great accuracy and magazine boosts. It would be a clear candidate for n.1, until you notice... The speed reduction and no dodge. Given that mobility > else in this game, it goes from n. 1 directly to n. 4. In addition, it also lacks a way to insta-refill the magazine... One more reason for a definite n.4.

Hsol is awesome. Although it's slightly behind as far as dps goes, it actually uses many less bullets to reach that dps, which for example makes it a better harrier platform than the tsol/QMS. Some form of CC in CS, and a real grenade make it almost on par with the awesomeness that are the other two kits. In the end, the only thing that sets them apart is that the Hsol needs a good gun: he can't turn a peashooter in an awesome weapon like the MM kits can. So I reluctantly place him 3rd. Reluctantly because it's still an awesome kit, and very much underrated around here.

Tsol and QMS are so similar it's hard to pick one over the other. The turian is surely more user friendly, having some pretty good CC powers. On the other hand, the Quarian has a better debuff and, more importantly, a dodge. All in all, I'd say the turian wins on consoles due to the stability bonus being meaningful there. On PC, they're pretty damn equal. The turian is still more stylish though

[BridgeBurner]

Personally, I go with the Tsol for doing the most damage due to his toolkit. Between Prox. Mine, CS and MM he can deal out a large amount of damage on a single target or multiple targets...depending on how his powers are specced, of course.

You can't count prox mine due to the cooldown it forces. A while ago I did the test, and if you stop to use prox mine before shooting /  using MM, you lose in the DPS race to the destroyer.

[Dovakiin_N7]

I hate TS because I can't play him. His powers have weird cooldown. And I end up dead quite often. Scion laid his sight on him, stun locked and eventually dead. He gets synced too often. I would appreciate if someone told how people play him effectively specially for that cryo explosions? Does the cooldown interfere with MM? Ishe really only activate MM and shoot?

I love HSol with claymore. Otherwise soldier is boring class.

[Pearl (rip bioware)]

dont play hsol cuz tgi does the same thing (spam ch; free shield; bonus dmg).

HSol is the same as a TGI? wat

On topic: TSol > Destroyer > HSol > Quarksman

Although a Striker Destroyer is so good, I can fire all my missiles as soon as the match starts and still kill everything.