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The Iron Bull Discussion Thread - Break out the casks!
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#3627
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 09:29
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Posté 18 juin 2014 - 09:52
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It's perfectly possible they will see the greater whole to the situation, but if they feel that the Inquisitor somehow causes a threat to them as well--either by intidimidation or simply by existing as an organization beyond the Veil Tear--I wouldn't be surprised with them resulting in taking the Inquisition down by any means necessary.
Now that i think of it, that might be an interesting concept. Having to handle not only the threatining Veil Tears, the Mage / Templar problem, The Civil War in Orlais and Elven uprising, the Grey Wardens and as well as a possible conflict between the Qunari, we will more than our hands full.
Of course they'll see the Inquisition as a threat, but so long as IB keeps sending messages back telling them that the Inquisitor is continuing to close the rifts, the smarter thing for them to do would be to wait this one out. The Inquisition is using a good deal of manpower to keep the rifts closed and the various factions of Thedas in line, if the Qunari were to take out the Inquisitor, they'd have to expend their own manpower cleaning up all the mess. Why would that benefit them? It makes much more sense to just let their enemies expend their own resources on fixing the problem, leaving Thedas vulnerable for a Qunari invasion when the problem with the rifts is solved? The only reason they might have for stepping in is if they don't think the Inquisitor is capable of closing the rifts, in which case it'd better for them to tackle the problem sooner rather than wait for the Inquisitor to fail.
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Posté 18 juin 2014 - 10:35
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Of course they'll see the Inquisition as a threat, but so long as IB keeps sending messages back telling them that the Inquisitor is continuing to close the rifts, the smarter thing for them to do would be to wait this one out. The Inquisition is using a good deal of manpower to keep the rifts closed and the various factions of Thedas in line, if the Qunari were to take out the Inquisitor, they'd have to expend their own manpower cleaning up all the mess. Why would that benefit them? It makes much more sense to just let their enemies expend their own resources on fixing the problem, leaving Thedas vulnerable for a Qunari invasion when the problem with the rifts is solved? The only reason they might have for stepping in is if they don't think the Inquisitor is capable of closing the rifts, in which case it'd better for them to tackle the problem sooner rather than wait for the Inquisitor to fail.
I agree. You know, sometimes I wonder if people forget that Sten was sent with his group to Ferelden to find out what a Blight was, since the Qunari had never known one and were worried about the tales. They were smart enought to believe that the danger could be real, but cautious enough to send just a squad, not a full army that could cause problems. Sten's complaints were mostly about the Warden not being effective enough. He wanted them to succeed.
Once, the Warden could express surprise that the Qunari were so interested about his or her mission. Sten then asked why the Warden was fighting the darkspawn. One of the possible answers was because they could destroy the world. Then Sten asked if the Warden thought the Qunari lived in another world. The Qunari want the world saved as much as anyone.
What I'm wondering is if this could mean a better relationship with the Qunari if the Inquisition goes on after the game finishes. I mean, I can see the Qunari allowing Ben Hassrath to work for an international organization like the Inquisition, as long as they have a clear mission that is useful for the world instead of just a country.
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#3630
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 11:12
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Of course they'll see the Inquisition as a threat, but so long as IB keeps sending messages back telling them that the Inquisitor is continuing to close the rifts, the smarter thing for them to do would be to wait this one out. The Inquisition is using a good deal of manpower to keep the rifts closed and the various factions of Thedas in line, if the Qunari were to take out the Inquisitor, they'd have to expend their own manpower cleaning up all the mess. Why would that benefit them? It makes much more sense to just let their enemies expend their own resources on fixing the problem, leaving Thedas vulnerable for a Qunari invasion when the problem with the rifts is solved? The only reason they might have for stepping in is if they don't think the Inquisitor is capable of closing the rifts, in which case it'd better for them to tackle the problem sooner rather than wait for the Inquisitor to fail.
It's not obvious, since they (most likely) know next to nothing of the Inquisition and what they represent to Thedas as an organization, hence why they send someone to investigate. I was merely speculating at what direction it might go depending on our choices made throughout the story and relationship with Iron Bull / Qunari, what it will shape into and what possibilites it might have. Them not liking how we handle things in the game might stimulate them focusing a much more hostile approach to us, and possibly develop into them viewing the Inquisition as a potential growing threat to their plans.
I never stated they would directly take care of the Inquisitor cause just as I noted, I believe they are fully aware of the level of threat the Veil Tears have. Hence why I said they might preceive the Inquisition as a threat to be taken care of after the Veil Tear crisis, if they see us as that big of a deal to take down sooner rather than later.
Though you basically answered your own question with the Qunari taking down the Inquisition were they to see them not capable at dealing with the rifts.
#3631
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 12:20
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I wonder if there are going to be special options if you play as a qunari.
The qunari hunt Tal-Vashoth, so they can re-educate them, right? Our inquisitor is openly a vashoth, right? They won't just nod and go on, if they'll hear that the inquisitor is, in fact, a powerful vashoth (maybe even a mage), with an army behind his/her back.
I could either see them trying to bring the inquisitor over to their side, or threatening him/her at some point in the game (maybe after the rifts will be more or less under control, i don't know). I just can't imagine them not caring for a qunari inquisitor. He/She becomes quite known, right? Such a powerful vashoth might inspire other qunari to abandon the qun, so they'll want to keep him/her in check.
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Posté 18 juin 2014 - 02:52
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#3633
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 02:55
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#3634
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 03:49
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I wonder if there are going to be special options if you play as a qunari.
The qunari hunt Tal-Vashoth, so they can re-educate them, right? Our inquisitor is openly a vashoth, right? They won't just nod and go on, if they'll hear that the inquisitor is, in fact, a powerful vashoth (maybe even a mage), with an army behind his/her back.
I could either see them trying to bring the inquisitor over to their side, or threatening him/her at some point in the game (maybe after the rifts will be more or less under control, i don't know). I just can't imagine them not caring for a qunari inquisitor. He/She becomes quite known, right? Such a powerful vashoth might inspire other qunari to abandon the qun, so they'll want to keep him/her in check.
Tal-Vashoth are qunari who abandon the Qun, regardless of race. If the qunari Inquisitor was never part of the Qun to begin with, then he or she is no different from any other bas. Being part of the ox-men race should make no difference in the eyes of the Qun.
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#3635
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 04:49
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On the 'who will be in your party' picture, is that a plant with a sun on his left shoulder (our right)? Sorry if it has been discussed before, but I never noticed it!
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#3636
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 04:52
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On the 'who will be in your party' picture, is that a plant with a sun on his left shoulder (our right)? Sorry if it has been discussed before, but I never noticed it!
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All of the above.
#3637
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 09:24
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On the 'who will be in your party' picture, is that a plant with a sun on his left shoulder (our right)? Sorry if it has been discussed before, but I never noticed it!
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I can't quite make it out, it looks almost like a mushroom cloud. Blue and Gold color scheme, I can make that much out.
#3638
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 09:46
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May be the symbol of his band. Almost looks like a dandelion, but the 'bud' is disconnected from the leaves/stem. The top looks almost like a Seeker eye symbol, or just a radiating sun.
#3639
Posté 18 juin 2014 - 10:35
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#3640
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:05
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Since he's still part of the Qun (though he's questioning) I have a hard to believing him to be a LI
#3641
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:06
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#3642
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:08
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Since he's still part of the Qun (though he's questioning) I have a hard to believing him to be a LI
Why's that?
#3643
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:12
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Since he's still part of the Qun (though he's questioning) I have a hard to believing him to be a LI
The Iron Bull isn't your typical Qunari, he doesn't adhere strictly to the Qun.
He is a humorous, booze drinking, sex loving mercenary spy.
Why would he not be a LI.
#3645
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:54
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I'm loving all this 'Iron Bull as a mount' fanart. I'm actually feeling pretty disappointed we likely won't be able to do it in game.
#3646
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 12:58
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I'm loving all this 'Iron Bull as a mount' fanart. I'm actually feeling pretty disappointed we likely won't be able to do it in game.
Who says IB can't be used as an option for mount by some of the smaller races? They already have a mount feature in game, they've just gotta make it work for him.
He could also be a temporary "mount" if they have one of those "date" minigames like they did in ME3 and The Citadel.
#3647
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 01:00
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I'm loving all this 'Iron Bull as a mount' fanart. I'm actually feeling pretty disappointed we likely won't be able to do it in game.
If there's mod support for DA:I, there will definitely be a mod to make Iron Bull as a mount 
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#3648
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 01:02
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If there's mod support for DA:I, there will definitely be a mod to make Iron Bull as a mount
If there isn't I will dig around until I can figure out how to make one.
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#3649
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 01:10
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I would love a date mini-game! If he's a LI and they have dates, what do you think his will be? I'm thinking a night out at the tavern, or day drinking at the beach. Definitely something with alcohol.
#3650
Posté 19 juin 2014 - 01:15
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I would love a date mini-game! If he's a LI and they have dates, what do you think his will be? I'm thinking a night out at the tavern, or day drinking at the beach. Definitely something with alcohol.
Hmmmm well the "minigame" aspect of it will certainly be a drinking game. What about an epic search for the best booze in town? Samples must be large and plenty in order to accurately determine the winner.
