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[Chernaya]

I've always wondered why we haven't really seen any half-breeds in the game, aside from human/elf -- which would always just look like human so we'd never really know anyway unless they told us. I suppose Qunari may not be able to cross-breed with other races like humans because the DNA is too different? Not sure how that stuff works really, but it's interesting to think about.

[Eveangaline]

I'm assuming we only see human elf half breeds because humans and elves are the different species that are most commonly in contact with each other.

 

We know from lore that human dwarf hybrids are just like..slightly tall dwarves or slightly short humans. And one bit of dialogue from a dlc in da2 hinted sandal may be a hybrid (Although he has the normal dwarf model and it was just two dwarves trading rumors)

[HuldraDancer]

I've always wondered why we haven't really seen any half-breeds in the game, aside from human/elf -- which would always just look like human so we'd never really know anyway unless they told us. I suppose Qunari may not be able to cross-breed with other races like humans because the DNA is too different? Not sure how that stuff works really, but it's interesting to think about.

 

awww I hope not I wanted to head canon some dwarf qunari babies (though that could be a horribly painful birth) Now I'm wondering if qunari with horn are born with them or do they grow in as they age?

[Kalyppso]

I remember that from the tower. I still wonder how someones cooking can be so bad that their bread can be mistaken for stew o.o; I also kind of hope for some banter about mundane things like that, like the cooking banter between Alistair and Lielana*sp* Something tells me that Iron Bull been's living off tavern food a lot recently 

I bet everything he cooks tastes the same - too sweet. There was some comment about him eating cake somewhere, and so apparently he shares something with Sten.

http://www.youtube.c...vZBRsaMAIo#t=73

I wonder if we'll get to talk about death with him. I'd be curious to hear both what the Qun and what Iron Bull thinks of the afterlife.

[Kalyppso]

awww I hope not I wanted to head canon some dwarf qunari babies (though that could be a horribly painful birth) Now I'm wondering if qunari with horn are born with them or do they grow in as they age?

"Some are born without them, but it has never been considered a defect. Instead the mark is considered special, indicating one who is clearly meant for a special role in their society—as a Ben-Hassrath who enforces religious law or as an envoy to other races. It is also not uncommon for qunari who abandon their beliefs to remove their own horns, for reasons not yet clear."

David Gaider

[Chernaya]

awww I hope not I wanted to head canon some dwarf qunari babies (though that could be a horribly painful birth) Now I'm wondering if qunari with horn are born with them or do they grow in as they age?

 

Eeeee... I really hope they grow with age. I could see them maybe born with rounded bumps where the horns will grow, but anything more that that sounds like... I don't wanna think about it, lol. 

[Joe25]

I've always wondered why we haven't really seen any half-breeds in the game, aside from human/elf -- which would always just look like human so we'd never really know anyway unless they told us. I suppose Qunari may not be able to cross-breed with other races like humans because the DNA is too different? Not sure how that stuff works really, but it's interesting to think about.

I think it might be the human race ability. All the races are said to have one ability to set them apart from the the others. Dwarf have a strong magic resistance. Elf have stronger magic and dexterity. And, Qunari are the strongest physically. Humans are said to be the more round race, but what if their ability is canceling out the genes of their partner's race.         

[Kalyppso]

I think it might be the human race ability. All the are said to have one ability to set them apart from the the others. Dwarf have a strong magic resistance. Elf have stronger magic and dexterity. And, Qunari are the strongest physically. Humans are said to be the more round race, but what if their ability is cancel out the genes of their partner's race.

We know from lore that human dwarf hybrids are just like..slightly tall dwarves or slightly short humans. And one bit of dialogue from a dlc in da2 hinted sandal may be a hybrid (Although he has the normal dwarf model and it was just two dwarves trading rumors)

It doesn't add up. D:

[Chernaya]

Oooh, it's an interesting thought, but yeah... the half dwarf/half humans do seem to take a little from each side. Us humans... our special ability is just being well rounded I suppose, lol. boring but ah well.

[Joe25]

It doesn't add up. D:

Suspension of disbelief? In a game with so much magic maybe there are just some things that cannot be explained. 

[HuldraDancer]

I bet everything he cooks tastes the same - too sweet. There was some comment about him eating cake somewhere, and so apparently he shares something with Sten.

http://www.youtube.c...vZBRsaMAIo#t=73

I wonder if we'll get to talk about death with him. I'd be curious to hear both what the Qun and what Iron Bull thinks of the afterlife.

Now that would be an interesting conversation most I remember about it was the Vicount's son saying that apparently qunari don't treat their dead in any special way but I would like ot know what they think of the after life since all races seem to vary greatly on it.

 

"Some are born without them, but it has never been considered a defect. Instead the mark is considered special, indicating one who is clearly meant for a special role in their society—as a Ben-Hassrath who enforces religious law or as an envoy to other races. It is also not uncommon for qunari who abandon their beliefs to remove their own horns, for reasons not yet clear."

David Gaider

Owwwwww.....well that answers that, hopefully they stay as little bumps if they are going ot have horns and then grown in as they get older? I hope so anyway.

 

Eeeee... I really hope they grow with age. I could see them maybe born with rounded bumps where the horns will grow, but anything more that that sounds like... I don't wanna think about it, lol. 

 

Looks like we got our answer all I can say is OWCH!! but I still want those mix babies if possible or could adopt some I guess >> Now i keep picturing Iron bull with little kids swinging off of his horns x3

[Kalyppso]

Or you know, never having shown us a dwarf-human offspring, they could just change it.

However, I think that elves would have the weaker dna map for appearances because it adds to their tragedy that their numbers (and therefore culture) would dwindle if they didn't commit to their race.

Qunari, on the other hand, are conquerors, and I don't think they'd share that tragedy.

[Kalyppso]

Now that would be an interesting conversation most I remember about it was the Vicount's son saying that apparently qunari don't treat their dead in any special way but I would like ot know what they think of the after life since all races seem to vary greatly on it.

Sten's sword, Asala, meaning "soul" - certainly implies that they have a concept of something anyway. (:

I wonder if we could ever find out about the history of the "kossith" before Koslun published his Tome of Koslun dictating the Qun ... and if any beliefs they had prior are completely lost.

[HuldraDancer]

Sten's sword, Asala, meaning "soul" - certainly implies that they have a concept of something anyway. (:

I wonder if we could ever find out about the history of the "kossith" before Koslun published his Tome of Koslun dictating the Qun ... and if any beliefs they had prior are completely lost.

 

I would love to learn more about it if they do a lot of things about the Qun are pretty fascinating to me actually maybe cause I'm also confused by it half the time 

 

I could see that being worked into a future game maybe there'll be one where we to to their homeland and learn all about it?

[Joe25]

Or you know, never having shown us a dwarf-human offspring, they could just change it.

However, I think that elves would have the weaker dna map for appearances because it adds to their tragedy that their numbers (and therefore culture) would dwindle if they didn't commit to their race.

Qunari, on the other hand, are conquerors, and I don't think they'd share that tragedy.

And really the differences between a elf and a human is the ears and and a half/foot height difference. So human genes over taking the elf genes is little surprise. The only thing I can think a half dwarf would look like is the tavern owner in redcliffe and that elf from the anime.   

[Former_Fiend]

I've seen it theorized that human/qunari pairings always result in qunari similar to how human/elf pairings always result in humans. Far as I can tell, it's baseless speculation, but it's an interesting possibility.

 

Though apparently within the qun, they don't allow any crossbreeding between species, which I found interesting. The point of the Qun's selective breeding programs is to constantly create superior individuals, not racially pure individuals. 

 

The fact that there's a ban on it speaks to me that they can interbreed, but that the results are found...lacking by the Ben Hassrath. 

 

I find it interesting because before finding this out, I would have thought their view would have been more similar to that of the Horde in warcraft lore(before that lore got butchered), where the orcs would intentionally crossbreed with humans and ogres to produce more cunning or stronger individuals, respectively.

[Kalyppso]

I could see that being worked into a future game maybe there'll be one where we to to their homeland and learn all about it?

Maybe. I wouldn't really want to know, just to wonder. Maybe see some ghosts speaking a foreign language just to give us a taste?

I'd rather visit Rivain and talk to their hedge witches ... or the Anderfels to see the home of the Wardens ... Maybe Tevinter.

How far do you think Bull has traveled?

[Kalyppso]

The fact that there's a ban on it speaks to me that they can interbreed, but that the results are found...lacking by the Ben Hassrath. 
 
I find it interesting because before finding this out, I would have thought their view would have been more similar to that of the Horde in warcraft lore(before that lore got butchered), where the orcs would intentionally crossbreed with humans and ogres to produce more cunning or stronger individuals, respectively.

This is an excellent point, and I wonder if it is logical for them to consider such a person lacking, because if human and qunari breed just to produce sickly, dying children, it would be a tragedy that I would think no one would want to pursue.

[Former_Fiend]

I would love to learn more about it if they do a lot of things about the Qun are pretty fascinating to me actually maybe cause I'm also confused by it half the time 

 

I could see that being worked into a future game maybe there'll be one where we to to their homeland and learn all about it?

 

One of the DLC gifts for Sten is a qunari book of prayers for the dead. 

 

They also apparently believe that the fade is the realm of the dead- this is distinct from andrastians, some of whom have the misconception of the fade being the realm of the dead while the actual religion holds that the soul merely passes through the fade on it's way to either "the Maker's side" or "the void". 

 

In any event, the qunari belief seems to simply be that once someone dies, their body is just meat, and their spirit - what actually qualifies as them - has moved on.

[Fizzie Panda]

Here's an Iron Bull userbar I made for you guys! I don't know where you could use it, but you're welcome to! #ridethebull

 

I'm not sure I got it quite right, but anyway:

 

[HuldraDancer]

Maybe. I wouldn't really want to know, just to wonder. Maybe see some ghosts speaking a foreign language just to give us a taste?

I'd rather visit Rivain and talk to their hedge witches ... or the Anderfels to see the home of the Wardens ... Maybe Tevinter.

How far do you think Bull has traveled?

That would leave me so curious about it even more so.

 

I'd like to think since the DA series revolves around the settings more than anything that we'll get to go to all the places eventually which would be amazing.

 

Considering he's been around long enough to be well seasoned and to the point where he's getting a little tired of it all I would think he's been around quite a lot my guess would be all over the place whichis a poor guess^^; but it seems like he's seen some sh*t and given his role I'd think that would imply thats he's traveled around a lot.

 

sorry for my crappy answer guess I'm more tired than I thought ^^;

[Joe25]

This is an excellent point, and I wonder if it is logical for them to consider such a person lacking, because if human and qunari breed just to produce sickly, dying children, it would be a tragedy that I would think no one would want to pursue.

I don't think the child would be sickly. Maybe they don't cross bread out of fear that like a elves breading with a human or dwarf there child would not be Qunari. Qunari if you look at them in some light they are just dark elves. 

[Kalyppso]

Here's an Iron Bull userbar I made for you guys! I don't know where you could use it, but you're welcome to! #ridethebull
 
I'm not sure I got it quite right, but anyway:
 

I've seen you posting these around and will say thank you - you've done a great job! (:

[HuldraDancer]

Here's an Iron Bull userbar I made for you guys! I don't know where you could use it, but you're welcome to! #ridethebull

 

I'm not sure I got it quite right, but anyway:

 

Ooooh thanks *grabby hands* You wouldn't happen to have a Blackwall one too would you?

 

edit: awwwww I was hoping to use that as my sig shame it won't let me. Oh well thanks for making it

[Former_Fiend]

This is an excellent point, and I wonder if it is logical for them to consider such a person lacking, because if human and qunari breed just to produce sickly, dying children, it would be a tragedy that I would think no one would want to pursue.

 

Well, what the qunari find lacking could be any number of things; they believe in extreme specialization, not generalization.

Going back to my Horde example, a half-orc-half-ogre is as smart as an orc and stronger than an orc, but not as strong as an ogre, and they also possess a fierce independent streak that didn't lend itself well towards serving in a large army. A qunari might see that because the halfbreed couldn't be as strong as the ogre, it would be better to have the orc do the brain work separately and let the ogre do the smashing, or that the independent streak was simply a flaw that made the whole thing not worth it(that last point actually being the reason why half-orc-half-ogres were never bred in large numbers in warcraft lore, fyi).

 

So qunari philosphy might simply see a half-qunari-half-human as being better at the things a qunari is good at than a human, but not as good as a qunari, and better at the things a human is good at than a qunari, but not as good as a human, and decide it's better to have a separate qunari and human who can do the two things better than the halfbreed could do either of them.

 

Just like their view that while women can be capable fighters, they wouldn't be as good as a man and vice versa when it comes to running a shop, it's not about simply being competent but excelling. It's also not necessarily true, it's just their perception.