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daveliam

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I'm not surprised about Vivienne to be honest, there were comments about these two before
As for Dorian, I guess that's due to them belonging to different sides :/. They both are rebels yet still loyal to their homelands
Maybe that's due to Dorian being a necromancer who works with spirits/demons possessing corpses and Iron Bull hates demons


I think you're missing the point. I'm disappointed because this is just another one in a long trend where bisexual males are mostly attracted to females. It's not so much about Bull and his particular attractions as it is the larger representation.

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Man, Iron Bull was just too cool in that trailer. "Let me just shoulder rush people and send them flying like nothing. Let me just casually lift my enemies up by the neck and get ready to punch them like a punching bag. Let me take out my trusty ax as I rush towards a large enemy with a huge grin on my face. And I'll do it all shirtless because why not? I love Tuesdays." 

 

Having a thing for redheads is pretty hilarious, and while I sort of called him having the hots for Josie, I think I would be unable to contain my laughter if he had a thing for Varric. Probably just going to be Vivienne though. Can sort of see why. Still wish it was Varric.

 

Can't wait to have him on my team and more than likely romance him. Just 10 more days to go...


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#7453
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I'm romancing him with a necromancer. :P So it must not bother him too much! hopefully.

They did say that class won't matter but didn't they say that specialization in this game will play a bigger role than previously? Hmm, though, didn't they also say that they just wanted to do so but couldn't?.. Hmm

Well, I would be shocked if the Inquisitor being a mage won't be mentioned in the romance at all

Also, Dorian and Iron Bull's homelands are at war. Though that would make an interesting RomeoxJuliette story

 

 

I think you're missing the point. I'm disappointed because this is just another one in a long trend where bisexual males are mostly attracted to females. It's not so much about Bull and his particular attractions as it is the larger representation.

 

No, I understand

I'm just trying to understand the possible logical reasons why IronBullxDorian flirt isn't a thing, since there were hints. Or sth which looked like hints

It's just... well, it's quite surprising so I'm puzzled

Maybe Dorian does have a thing for the Bull but the Bull doesn't?

Either way, D.Gaider did say their interaction is *interesting* or sth


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#7454
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Yeah, I've seen them talking about how specializations will have some unique dialogue though probably minor and rare, but I would like for it to change up some romance dialogue a bit if anything. Would be interesting. I like to try to pick combinations that could create some good potential discussions. :3



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I'm sure that it's actually Vivienne. I'm just disappointed because it means that literally every single bisexual male in a Bioware game has a preference for females. It seems like he might have a thing for dark skinned feminine ladies in a long robes and dresses. Just a shame it didn't extend to the dark skinned male mage in robes also.


Hmm, I think you're rushing to conclusions here. That one comment from Freddie doesn't mean Bull has a preference because we don't know if those are the only characters he expresses an interest in. I'd guess probably not, and those were just the ones his VA decided to mention in a tweet.

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Hmm, I think you're rushing to conclusions here. That one comment from Freddie doesn't mean Bull has a preference because we don't know if those are the only characters he expresses an interest in. I'd guess probably not, and those were just the ones his VA decided to mention in a tweet.

Fair point. I just find it a little eye-roll inducing that the ones that came to his mind off the cuff were two ladies. I'm sure he'll have a few s/s flirts, but it's appearing to me that those aren't as memorable or recurring.

And I say that with the complete understanding that it might be premature to say that.

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I am a Necromancer and I will marry my Bull <3333333

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Fair point. I just find it a little eye-roll inducing that the ones that came to his mind off the cuff were two ladies. He emphasizes it with an 'especially', too. I'm sure he'll have a few s/s flirts, but it's appearing to me that those aren't as memorable or recurring.
And I say that with the complete understanding that it might be premature to say that.


That might be Freddie's "bias", not the writing's though. But I understand being wary - just thought I'd throw a word for patience :)

Myself, I wish he doesn't have a preference. I'm weary of people always trying to determine a bi character's preference as if they had to have one.
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I think you're missing the point. I'm disappointed because this is just another one in a long trend where bisexual males are mostly attracted to females. It's not so much about Bull and his particular attractions as it is the larger representation.

Unrequited lusting over Varric does have amusement potential...

 

The new trailer has me questioning my allegiance to Dorian...damn it.


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Well, to be honest out of all male companions (+ Cullen) only Blackwall and Cole seemingly have no quarrel with him

Solas and Varric talk **** about his way of life and his people. Dorian is pretty much an enemy

Cole is out of question and Blackwall?..

Hmm, Iron Bull hitting on Blackwall would be pretty interesting to see



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Never posted here before, but I'm part of the Iron Bull fan club! (Well I always was but most of the posts were about romance and well I won't be romancing him). But its cool that it seems as if he'll be getting along well with one of my main party members, Vivienne! :D 

 

It would be funny if both IB and my Inquisitor flirt shamelessly with her! IB is my bro! 

 

Team Qunari silhouette is a go! Male Qunari Mage, Vivienne, Iron Bull and Dorian (mustache = inverted horns) 


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Unrequited lusting over Varric does have amusement potential...

 

The new trailer has me questioning my allegiance to Dorian...damn it.

 

Maybe that's where his "hahaha" came from.



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Now that I think about it V is probably Vivienne. Here https://twitter.com/...147865402261505 he mentions that " Im not tellin anyone who to bring but on either side of the Inq' are two very VERY saxy companions - The Bull and V" and immediately to either side of the Inquisitor are Vivienne and Iron Bull.

 

Looking forward to the banter! Remember DA:O with Wynne and Ogrehn? This could be golden!


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Not gonna lie, it will be pretty annoying if Bull goes on and on about women and only women. Especially while I am trying to romance him with a male character. 


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Not gonna lie, it will be pretty annoying if Bull goes on and on about women and only women. Especially while I am trying to romance him with a male character.

Agreed.

That would be pretty lame and I'd be sad

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THE THIRST IS REAL.

 

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Oooo, bonus points for Kristen Wiig.


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I mean, don't get me wrong.  Vivienne IS very "saxy".  He has excellent taste.  And it will probably make some really fun banter (I'm sure that her hat will be a recurring topic). 

 

I will just be disappointed if he also prefers females, following in the footsteps of Sky, Zevran, Anders, Fenris, and Kaidan.  I was kind of hoping that his pansexuality would mean that he wouldn't skew in favor of women also.  And maybe that's unfair of me to put that on him since pansexual's have preferences as well.  It would be nice if there was a guy who either didn't prefer females over males (either preferring both equally or preferring males for once).


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#7468
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Agreed.

That would be pretty lame and I'd be sad

 

I'm grateful to have two options for M/M romance, I really am, but I it would just leave a sour taste if Bull ends up being like Zevran. 

 

It's like..... okay, you are with my Inquisitor, but I know you would prefer it if he were a woman because that's all you seem to go on about.  Sigh.


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That might be Freddie's "bias", not the writing's though. But I understand being wary - just thought I'd throw a word for patience :)

Myself, I wish he doesn't have a preference. I'm weary of people always trying to determine a bi character's preference as if they had to have one.

 

Exactly... I really dislike that myself..

 

I do agree it might be his bias. :/


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#7470
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I'm grateful to have two options for M/M romance, I really am, but I it would just leave a sour taste if Bull ends up being like Zevran.

It's like..... okay, you are with my Inquisitor, but I know you would prefer it if he were a woman because that's all you seem to go on about. Sigh.

I killed Zevran by choice e in DA:O

If you want to know my blunt thovuhts on what I felt about him after trying to romance him.

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Yeah I'm gonna be pretty annoyed if Bull mainly just shows attraction to female characters, it felt so inappropriate in Origins when Zevran mentions to a male Warden who is romancing him that he actually prefers females (not too mention Anders clearly prefering females and the whole Kaidan situation). I hope it isn't the same for Bull, especially since him being attracted to males is pretty much ignored by the fandom as well (especially on Tumblr, I've noticed). 

 

And I really wanted Bull and Dorian to hook up if neither are romanced, ugh. 


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Not gonna lie, it will be pretty annoying if Bull goes on and on about women and only women. Especially while I am trying to romance him with a male character. 

Even as a straight guy I'll be offended if he doesn't try to get with this, Would shatter my ego.



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I'd support Bull/Dorian as a not-romancing-either companion romance-ey thing.

 

Not just because I agree with the notion that it shouldn't always be M/F for companion hookups, but also cause Tevinter/Qunari. Come on now, it'd be golden. 



#7474
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I'd support Bull/Dorian as a not-romancing-either companion romance-ey thing.

 

Not just because I agree with the notion that it shouldn't always be M/F for companion hookups, but also cause Tevinter/Qunari. Come on now, it'd be golden. 

 

Yeah they make a great pair, and for me it would actually be nice to have a companion hook up that isn't M/F. I dunno, I just get the feeling that they will have great banter and I really hope they get along well. 



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If he doesn't flirt with Dorian at least once, I may cry a little bit. I ship those two with a passion that is a bit too intense for not even having played the game yet.

 

On the topic of his flirting with "V": I can already tell I'll like Viv, but I too hope it is Varric. This is partially because I can see it being hilarious (with Varric having his thing about Qunari and apparently not liking the Bull) and partially because it is very hot. I may have mentioned before that I have a thing for sarcastic banter and height differences? Yeah.

 

And maybe there is progress on Bioware's writing of bisexual/pansexual men. I mean, wasn't Fenris written with a m/m romance in mind? I remember reading that somewhere back on the DA2 forums. He could have a general preference for women, but maybe he'll flirt with men and woman equally. Maybe FPJ just said Josie and Viv because they're the ones most likely to flirt back?