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[Chernaya]

Hello! Can I ask for some help from those who have pursued IB's storyline and/or romance?

 

It's been at least 10h since I've left Haven for Skyhold, and ever since I've exhausted his dialogue wheel in the first go (picked 2 flirt options back there in Haven), no option to talk to him other than "Goodbye" has appeared. Is this... normal? I'm at mind that this is a bug, because I've progressed everyone's storyline & personal quests, while flirting like crazy with Josie and Dorian. Iron Bull remains unaffected tho >: He hasn't given me his personal quest either.

 

Should he have more conversation options once they arrive in Skyhold? Or is he just really quiet?

 

It's normal, me and a few others have had the same situation. There's a time where his dialogue is empty for awhile until you get a lot of approval. The easiest way is to kill a dragon, it starts up its own cutscene back at skyhold, even. After that, he had all new dialogue yet again and I could progress in the romance.

[Stephanie K.]

Thank you so much! I'll be going to kill a dragon ASAP  Need to romance him before one of my LIs get too attached... (I'm so indecisive)

[Tootles FTW]

The options change depending on what you do on his personal quest, it's not decided by gender.

 

Where does that 'amazing set of t*ts' line come from, though? xD I never got that, hahaha.

 

Ahh, okay, good to know!  Glad it's not gender-specific, though this has me wondering why someone would prefer the other route...  

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Personally it wasn't even a choice for me in saving the Chargers.  He ultimately seemed happy with the choice & seems to be more romantically inclined (aka softer) if you save them.  I also prefer his line in the final romance scene if you save the Chargers: "Knowing you has made me a better man" versus "You helped me realize who I truly am".  The latter just seems more Qun drone-mentality IMO...if he's a-okay sacrificing the Chargers whats to say that will change later down the road if my Quizzie's butt is on the line?

 

I also felt his tarot card was weirdly dark considering everything.  He never seemed that torn up about the actual Qunari that died but rather that he was what he always despised (Tal Vashoth), so being surrounded by dead Qunari seemed a bit maudlin.  His final tarot card was very hot, though, and this is coming from someone who didn't enjoy his romance!

 

EDIT - Also, the "amazing set of t*ts" line happens if you have his romance instigated and you kill a dragon.  The following drinking scene (if your Quizzie participates in drinking, anyways) ends up with them being drunk and giving toasts to each other.  Bull will comment that he always wanted to tell you something, and lets loose with that line, haha.

[Cyberium]

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For those that feel they are weird for liking this romance I can throw myself on that boat since this is hands down my favorite romance.....EVER! As someone already stated alot of people have a misperception in regards to a dom/sub relationship, most cannot get past the whips & chains part (it doesn't always involve that lol). Before you initiate the romance with him he does tell you that you don't entirely know what that means. Even before he gives you one final warning with your back against the wall, with your hands held above your hand & him towering over you (sweet maker that was so hot). He isn't saying that he going to dominate you but his body language sure as hell said it.

After the romance scene when asked to discuss your relationship he says he is doing it for "your" pleasure. He isn't banging you like a rag doll and neglecting you. It sounds like he is the type that really takes care of you, if you know what I mean lol. The sub already has alot of power in the relationship but if the dom is like Bull then it is even more so.

The Inquisitor has all of Thedas on their shoulders and that can take a toll on people.

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Look at Hawke for example. They just sound tired and worn out & that is from just one city

You have people worshipping you, asking you for help all the time & enemies everywhere. He offers to help with your burden by giving you a chance to let go. Hell he doesn't even add to your burden even when it looks like he should. Bull isn't the type of guy that is going to buy you flowers & chocolate (thank the maker) instead he tells you he cares about you by being a refuge from the world around you. As for the serving girls he states that they slave away all day never feeling important. He gives them a chance to feel "beautiful" in his own unique way. I'm sure he tells the quizzy that they are "beautiful" too lol.

Some people aren't into this kind of relationship, just like I'm not into Dorian at all. He is WAY too high maintenance for me & I hate men & women like that, huge turn off for me. But alot of people seem to enjoy his romance arc quite a bit. I also don't like Sera either but she isn't available to male quizzys anyway (thank the maker for that miracle). Personally I still think that everyone that hates this romance would be better off with Cullen. He isn't so sex focused although I think he should be. If he still has his templar powers he can cast silence on his lover & then.......see this is why I'm a bull rider lol. Anyway I stated my opinion the matter so now I can finish my breakfast, take my clothes off & ride the bull.

#ridethebull

 

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Thank you for your input, much appreciated. If Bull is just a brute who has little to no regard for others, he wouldn't have been able to form a mercenary company full of rejects, saving a complete stranger at the cost of his eye.

 

In a dom/sub relationship, dom can NOT assume control without the sub's consent. At the beginning of the relationship Bull trice asked the inquisitor if he/she wants to do this and he let inquisitor knows that he/she can stop at ANY time. He also clarified that the only reason that he's playing dom is because inquisitor is always worshiped and making decisions, it'd be beneficial for him to occasionally let go all of those pride and responsibility.

 

An opposite example is that one time Bull noticed some servant girls were having a long day and mistreated in the process, he sexed them and complemented them just, because the girls need to feel good about themselves. That's Bull for you: rough, kinky, tender and thoughtful, and his heart is very golden.

[Chernaya]

Ahh, okay, good to know!  Glad it's not gender-specific, though this has me wondering why someone would prefer the other route...  

Spoiler

Personally it wasn't even a choice for me in saving the Chargers.  He ultimately seemed happy with the choice & seems to be more romantically inclined (aka softer) if you save them.  I also prefer his line in the final romance scene if you save the Chargers: "Knowing you has made me a better man" versus "You helped me realize who I truly am".  The latter just seems more Qun drone-mentality IMO...if he's a-okay sacrificing the Chargers whats to say that will change later down the road if my Quizzie's butt is on the line?

 

I also felt his tarot card was weirdly dark considering everything.  He never seemed that torn up about the actual Qunari that died but rather that he was what he always despised (Tal Vashoth), so being surrounded by dead Qunari seemed a bit maudlin.  His final tarot card was very hot, though, and this is coming from someone who didn't enjoy his romance!

 

EDIT - Also, the "amazing set of t*ts" line happens if you have his romance instigated and you kill a dragon.  The following drinking scene (if your Quizzie participates in drinking, anyways) ends up with them being drunk and giving toasts to each other.  Bull will comment that he always wanted to tell you something, and lets loose with that line, haha.

 

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I agree, I'll never choose the other way around for his personal quest. Saving the Chargers is just so 'right' to me. I haven't seen the final card... does it happen after you finish the romance? xD I haven't gone to character select yet since I've done the final scene. I'm excited suddenly, hahaha.

 

Ah, I see now. I did that scene right before I started the romance. That sounds so hilarious though, oh well lol. I needed to kill a dragon just so I could get enough approval to start up his dialogue again. Next time I guess I shall try to get more approval beforehand so I can see that. xP

[Burnouts3s3]

Quick question. Do you think it's hypocritical of me to like Iron Bull but dislike Tallis? 

 

Please note that this is no way shape or form as an insult toward Felicia Day.  I appreciate Ms. Day and her work and even liked her as Veronica in Fallout: New Vegas. However, I didn't like the character of Tallis because her role as a Qunari spy seemed very unconvincing to me. However, when Iron Bull did it, it felt more persuasive to me because it seemed more, I'm not sure, 'in character' for him?

 

Do you agree with this sentiment or am I alone in thinking this?

[Ap0crypha]

I think the annoying thing about Tallis was a) she had a "can't argue with Qunari" attitude, and she always succeeded. Ambushed by assassins? Watch in awe as I own them! Captured by guards? No problem, lemme just pick this lock with my bare fingers. Hawke refused to help her? Whatever, I'll get the book anyway, no matter what you say and do.

 

So no, it's not hypocritical--I don't like her either!

[Chernaya]

Bull has a different attitude than Tallis did. I agree that he fit his role better. 

[Mr.House]

Plus Bull has an amazing rack.

[Chari]

I liked DA2 Tallis. A nice girl, just confused
Heck, I like her more than the Bull even though he is written much better
Plus I agreed with her views and I like the qunari

[LittleRedHead54]

Who else thinks Iron Bull looks good all dressed up? 

P.S. I don't know how to put this under spoilers. 

[Tootles FTW]

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I agree, I'll never choose the other way around for his personal quest. Saving the Chargers is just so 'right' to me. I haven't seen the final card... does it happen after you finish the romance? xD I haven't gone to character select yet since I've done the final scene. I'm excited suddenly, hahaha.

 

Ah, I see now. I did that scene right before I started the romance. That sounds so hilarious though, oh well lol. I needed to kill a dragon just so I could get enough approval to start up his dialogue again. Next time I guess I shall try to get more approval beforehand so I can see that. xP

 

I didn't have the romance activated when I did the Empress Celene/Orlesian Ball quest, and apparently you can dance with him if you do, so there's lots to accidentally miss dependent upon when you complete each mission.  I'm doing the Solas romance at the moment and going more slowly through the main quests so I don't skip any moments; Bull was my tester run, turns out.

 

If you're curious, I uploaded the final romance card for Iron Bull.  It's pretty sexy:

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It's a bit big, so here's a link if you have viewing problems: http://i.imgur.com/VhFdbdc.jpg

Taken from my phone, so sorry for quality.  I love how he's licking a bound Quizzie hand.  Almost makes him seem the subservient one.

 

[LikesGuysWithBeards]

Hi guys! This is actually my first post here, been lurking for years, and now finally posting! I wanted to talk/ask about the Iron Bull romance, to clear up some confusion I might be having. I've read the last page and I guess I have some questions for those who have finished the Bull romance. As a pre-cursor, there are going to be spoilers in this post, but I'm not sure how to do the spoiler box thing, so if you haven't been through this romance you have been warned!

 

So, real quick, as a gay man, this has been my favorite romance I've ever delved into in a Bioware game so far (to be fair, I never tried to romance Kaidan in ME3 because I only played it once with a female character, and I have yet to romance Dorian, saving that for the second playthrough!) and I love the Iron Bull as a character and lover for my Inquisitor (whom is also a Qunari wootwoot)! Despite that, though, I feel a bit disappointed. Was that really all there was to it? If felt so short, ill-paced, and abrupt... I think there were three major (romantic) scenes between the two of you, the first where he finally drops the bomb that he's gotten your hints of flirtations, the sex scene where Cullen, Josephine, and Cassandra walk in, and then if I'm not mistaken, the scene where you two have sex again, and talk about it a bit, and he, atleast in my playthrough, says something along the lines of "Katoh" when you express the fear of death, and he exclaims you'll make it out together, alive.

 

Now, don't get me wrong, as I said before, I loved this romance and Bull and he's surprisingly sweet but wild at the same time and whatnot. But... is that really the last scene you get together? I've just finished the Orlesian Ball main quest, as well as the Wardens one, but have yet to go on with Morrigan and the Eluvian, so there is still plenty more to go through I've heard, but whenever I try to talk to Bull, it's just "Goodbye" or "Kiss Him", and that's it... I received the achievement to the romance during the aforementioned scene, but at the time, I didn't think that was the end. I thought that was just a "no going back now" sort of thing, or something. I've also done plenty of quests for the Chargers, as that unlocked more dialogue for Bull earlier in the romance I think.

 

So, I guess my question is, is that it? To those who have beat the game or made it farther than me, do I have anything else more to look forward to with this relationship? If so, please don't spoil the details for me! If not... well, I'd have to say I'm a little let down. Maybe my expectations were too high, but I assumed this was something that would carry through the entire main quest and whatnot. So if anyone could give me some further insight, that'd be great, thanks!

[ZerioctheTank]

I haven't finished the romance yet but there should be a final scene after you beat the game I believe, I could be wrong though.

[Chernaya]

I didn't have the romance activated when I did the Empress Celene/Orlesian Ball quest, and apparently you can dance with him if you do, so there's lots to accidentally miss dependent upon when you complete each mission.  I'm doing the Solas romance at the moment and going more slowly through the main quests so I don't skip any moments; Bull was my tester run, turns out.

 

If you're curious, I uploaded the final romance card for Iron Bull.  It's pretty sexy:

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It's a bit big, so here's a link if you have viewing problems: http://i.imgur.com/VhFdbdc.jpg

Taken from my phone, so sorry for quality.  I love how he's licking a bound Quizzie hand.  Almost makes him seem the subservient one.

 

 

Yeah I got to dance with him! get one thing miss another haha. And yes I checked it out in my game as soon as you mentioned it earlier, I love it! It really is. I hope you enjoy the Solas romance.   I'm going to attempt to try them all eventually... it might take awhile... I'll probably do a few and then give up and watch the rest on youtube.  I think I'm going for Cullen next for no other reason than I simply cannot decide, so why not try what seems like the exact opposite? xD No sexy card though for that one. Shame. lol

[CuriousArtemis]

It's normal, me and a few others have had the same situation. There's a time where his dialogue is empty for awhile until you get a lot of approval. The easiest way is to kill a dragon, it starts up its own cutscene back at skyhold, even. After that, he had all new dialogue yet again and I could progress in the romance.

 

Wow, so funny, I was coming here to make this very same inquiry UGHHH Looks like I have to go kill a dragon  Any tips? I'm a level 9 archer... playing on casual... cause this game is hard >.> Killing the three wyverns in Crestwood, well, let's just say, I had to draw them out one at a time. It was the only way to keep my party alive.

[Dr. Doctor]

Who else thinks Iron Bull looks good all dressed up? 


P.S. I don't know how to put this under spoilers.

The Iron Bull: spy, mercenary, and a member of the greatest marching band Thedas has ever seen.

[Chernaya]

Wow, so funny, I was coming here to make this very same inquiry UGHHH Looks like I have to go kill a dragon  Any tips? I'm a level 9 archer... playing on casual... cause this game is hard >.> Killing the three wyverns in Crestwood, well, let's just say, I had to draw them out one at a time. It was the only way to keep my party alive.

 

Level 9 might be a bit low even on casual, I'd try to level up to around 12 or 13, then try the dragon in the Hinterlands. Try to make some good armor with fire resistance and use cold damage runes or spells because it has a weakness to cold. A mage with good barrier skills is always really helpful too.

[Cat Fancy]

You might also try the dragon in Crestwood. (when you've leveled up a bit) I think it's maybe 1 (?) level higher than the one in the Hinterlands but there's so much less time spent walking up towards it, unable to save. (I mean, I know they wanted the first dragon you encounter to be exciting and notable, but...)

[Allazor]

Dear Bull Riders

Here is our romance in a distilled form , the finally is PRICELESS   Please do enyoj

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[dsajorje3]

Hello! Can I ask for some help from those who have pursued IB's storyline and/or romance?

 

It's been at least 10h since I've left Haven for Skyhold, and ever since I've exhausted his dialogue wheel in the first go (picked 2 flirt options back there in Haven), no option to talk to him other than "Goodbye" has appeared. Is this... normal? I'm at mind that this is a bug, because I've progressed everyone's storyline & personal quests, while flirting like crazy with Josie and Dorian. Iron Bull remains unaffected tho >: He hasn't given me his personal quest either.

 

Should he have more conversation options once they arrive in Skyhold? Or is he just really quiet?

I had the same problem but it was fixed once I finished hawke's quest, then i was able to romance him

[GhostlyMaiden]

I feel for y'all. All I had to do to get his personal quest was leave Skyhold and come straight back. I had left to get started on Solas's personal quest, then I realized I never talked to Vivienne, so I went back. Talked to Varric along the way for kicks and he had new convos, so I tried talking to everybody else, too. So yeah, it's all a matter of approval. I had two Greatly Approvals beforehand (a decision made during the templars quest path and how to handle the goat chucking barbarian). Bull and I click pretty well. I hardly ever get disapproval from him.

[Solaria]

I finally got Bull and Skyhold yesterday, I'm loving what little I've seen of him so far and his convos with Krem are golden. I love the both of them.

 

I took him dragon hunting in the hinterlands and got turned to ash, I hate dragons.

[CuriousArtemis]

I feel for y'all. All I had to do to get his personal quest was leave Skyhold and come straight back. I had left to get started on Solas's personal quest, then I realized I never talked to Vivienne, so I went back. Talked to Varric along the way for kicks and he had new convos, so I tried talking to everybody else, too. So yeah, it's all a matter of approval. I had two Greatly Approvals beforehand (a decision made during the templars quest path and how to handle the goat chucking barbarian). Bull and I click pretty well. I hardly ever get disapproval from him.

I was getting all slightly approves from him then one major decision earned me a greatly disapproves Since then, he hasn't said a word to me. I hate the approval system! Like the romances aren't gated enough.

[LikesGuysWithBeards]

I haven't finished the romance yet but there should be a final scene after you beat the game I believe, I could be wrong though.

 

I hope you're right! I looked at Allazor's video that he posted and I've made it to that final scene, so it doesn't look like there is anything after until the end (maybe). Atleast I know now, it was mostly the wondering that was killing me the past few days haha. Guess I'll have to headcanon more