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[daveliam]

Regarding Bull's personal quest:

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I like that there is no 'good' choice in it. I find that when there is an 'everyone wins' solution, I can't actively choose something else because it just seems silly to me. For example, siding with the werewolves in DA:O. Why would I do that when I can cure them and still allow the elves to live? Or the suicide mission in ME2, why in the world would I choose not to upgrade the Normandy if it means people will die?

So to have to choose between the Chargers, a genuinely likeable rag-tag group of adventurers (who could easily be heroes of their own game) and an alliance with one of the most dominant militaries in Thedas? That's tough. It forces me to make a hard decision, like on Virmire in ME. There's no way to save both Ashley and Kaidan. Like in the Landsmeet in DA:O. There's no way to recruit Loghain (a brilliant tactician and warrior) into the Grey Wardens without losing your 'best friend'.

I enjoy these no-win situations and wish there were more of them.

[Ferrett03]

He's fun now I have found him

[Chernaya]

For future reference, which option gives him approval for the goat guy? Because I swear I tried them all and still got disapproval, but I'm going to keep it in mind next game and try again lol. 

 

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I think allying with the mages or disbanding the templars will always net enough disapproval that you'll run into that no dialogue zone for awhile, unfortunately. At the start of the game, that's the only large source of approval/disapproval I could really find. I got lots of 'slightly approves' but I don't think they were enough. Well, at least we have consequences for our choices.

[Fault Girl]

For future reference, which option gives him approval for the goat guy? Because I swear I tried them all and still got disapproval, but I'm going to keep it in mind next game and try again lol. 
 

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I think allying with the mages or disbanding the templars will always net enough disapproval that you'll run into that no dialogue zone for awhile, unfortunately. At the start of the game, that's the only large source of approval/disapproval I could really find. I got lots of 'slightly approves' but I don't think they were enough. Well, at least we have consequences for our choices.

I got it when I send the goat guy to tevinter. Just watched my sister do the same judgement as well and she got approval.

[Chernaya]

Thanks! it was either a bug or it was really late when I was playing and I was delirious. xD hahaha. 

[Fault Girl]

Thanks! it was either a bug or it was really late when I was playing and I was delirious. xD hahaha.

I only did that option as someone else told me , it managed to start his personal quest so I was happy!

[Master Warder Z_]

Least his personal quest wasn't that difficult.

[Boudicae]

I was getting all slightly approves from him then one major decision earned me a greatly disapproves Since then, he hasn't said a word to me. I hate the approval system! Like the romances aren't gated enough.

 

Just take him with you killing Venatori, he likes that a lot

[Cat Fancy]

Dear Bull Riders

Here is our romance in a distilled form , the finally is PRICELESS   Please do enyoj

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Not quite all scenes! I just completed the Grey Warden quest and got another romance scene with Iron Bull.

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It was another kinda funny one. He was guessing what other people's safewords would be. I also got the romance cheevo, Bull's tarot card changed again (not nearly as grim as the one he got after his quest), and I could no longer flirt with Dorian. I wonder if breaking up with Iron Bull would actually result an approval loss or a display of emotion now. I'll see!

 

I can definitely understand why his first few scenes bothered people. They didn't personally bother me in terms of the inflexible power dynamic, although I did think they were a little cringe-worthy. (a minotaur was earnestly explaining the basics of BDSM?) But I've really enjoyed the last two. I'm guessing there'll be one more near the end-game. Can't wait to see it.

[Shark17676]

Just take him with you killing Venatori, he likes that a lot

 

 

And dragons!

 

Nothing turns the Bull on like a mighty dragon slayer.

[Chernaya]

I just beat the game. No end game plot spoilers, just an opinion about the finality of the romance w/Bull.

 

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I wasn't expecting that last romance scene before the very end, it was so sweet! I for sure thought the last scene was the one where you were in bed making jokes about what everyone's safe words would be. I would have been happy with that as the final one too, but the last one was just cute overload. And pretty funny, as he always makes it. haha! Glad to see such a happy ending to it. So it was a very interesting romance indeed... started off almost purely physical, but ended very romantic. I still would have liked a better transition into that, but it's okay because the last few scenes were very nice. Riding the Bull was fun.

[Kierro Ren]

O_O......... ROFL

 

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ROFL.... I did a Bull romance will my Alt male Qunari, and the Cullen, Josie, and Cass walking in on a naked Bull is just freaking priceless.

[Tootles FTW]

So having experienced the IB romance I pretty much assumed that each love interest had their own difficult to accomplish personal bauble mission to fully complete the arc...as a way to stop people from rushing through the 'mance, or something.  But NOPE.  Only frickin' Bull requires you to murder a High Dragon, gawddamn that man.  Solas is a cake walk in comparison.  

 

@Chernaya

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For all my problems with the romance, his last two scenes were great.  If you choose the "right" dialogue options before the final fight it turns out very romantic, and the balcony scene was such a cute couple-y moment.  Adorbs.

[Chernaya]

So having experienced the IB romance I pretty much assumed that each love interest had their own difficult to accomplish personal bauble mission to fully complete the arc...as a way to stop people from rushing through the 'mance, or something.  But NOPE.  Only frickin' Bull requires you to murder a High Dragon, gawddamn that man.  Solas is a cake walk in comparison.  

 

@Chernaya

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For all my problems with the romance, his last two scenes were great.  If you choose the "right" dialogue options before the final fight it turns out very romantic, and the balcony scene was such a cute couple-y moment.  Adorbs.

 

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Which dialogue was that before the final fight? For some reason I don't think I got any dialogue before the fight, just that scene afterwards before you leave the party, the balcony one. That or I have horrid short term memory. XD; But yeah, it was adorable. I'm glad you enjoyed the sweetness of it despite having issues with how his romance was written. :3

[CuriousArtemis]

Just take him with you killing Venatori, he likes that a lot

 

Okay, I spent about 3 hours in the desert area killing Venatori ... I did get "Iron Bull slightly approves" each time. So I go back to Skyhold and still... NOTHING.

 

I am feeling really frustrated and getting sick of the game because all I am doing is grinding I am now level 11 ... still too early to fight a dragon? I don't know how much more random killing I can take. I turned the game off and have been avoiding it to be honest. 

 

Can you guys guarantee that if I kill a dragon Bull will have something to actually say to me and I'll be able to initiate a romance? I chose all the flirt options but one back in Haven (it was just too come-on-y and ooc for me). He approved of everything I did except for the one thing with the mages (which got me greatly disapproves... eep). 

 

If I'm going to take on a dragon... recommended dragon/area/party? I'm an archer fwiw. And I'm playing on casual lol but still find the game quite hard (and I have played both DA2 and ME on hard... this game is just HARD for me!!!)

[Chernaya]

Okay, I spent about 3 hours in the desert area killing Venatori ... I did get "Iron Bull slightly approves" each time. So I go back to Skyhold and still... NOTHING.

 

I am feeling really frustrated and getting sick of the game because all I am doing is grinding I am now level 11 ... still too early to fight a dragon? I don't know how much more random killing I can take. I turned the game off and have been avoiding it to be honest. 

 

Can you guys guarantee that if I kill a dragon Bull will have something to actually say to me and I'll be able to initiate a romance? I chose all the flirt options but one back in Haven (it was just too come-on-y and ooc for me). He approved of everything I did except for the one thing with the mages (which got me greatly disapproves... eep). 

 

If I'm going to take on a dragon... recommended dragon/area/party? I'm an archer fwiw. And I'm playing on casual lol but still find the game quite hard (and I have played both DA2 and ME on hard... this game is just HARD for me!!!)

 

I guarantee you that killing a dragon initiates a cutscene. That cutscene (along with the approval you get from killing the dragon) will probably get you enough approval to also get more cutscenes and dialogue. It is not what is necessary to continue a friendship or romance, you just need a lot of approval. It was the quickest way for me, since I was already up to level 12 by the time I got sick of his dialogue being empty. One thing you could do alternatively would be to progress in the story and pick options that he approves of.  I did the mage thing too, and was in the same situation for awhile. I think it just nets a lot of disapproval unfortunately... but if you ever have a question regarding a story decision he would approve of, you can message me. I beat the game with him romanced. 

 

I recommend the Hinterlands dragon, but someone else also said the one in Crestwood is more easily accessible and only 1 level higher. Vivienne is  lifesaver in dragon fights with her specialization that gives better barriers and restoration spells.

[CuriousArtemis]

Chernaya... Thanks!! xD I messaged you lol 

[CuriousArtemis]

I recommend the Hinterlands dragon, but someone else also said the one in Crestwood is more easily accessible and only 1 level higher. Vivienne is  lifesaver in dragon fights with her specialization that gives better barriers and restoration spells.

 

Ohh... I did not consider that (which mage to take). Sorry, sorry, I am a bit new to RPGs. Okay, I haven't used Viv in awhile; I'll level her up a bit. 

 

Does the Crestwood dragon also have babies? That's what concerns me about the Hinterlands one. You have to kill the babies AND worry about the big one blowing fire on you from above!

[Chernaya]

Ohh... I did not consider that (which mage to take). Sorry, sorry, I am a bit new to RPGs. Okay, I haven't used Viv in awhile; I'll level her up a bit. 

 

Does the Crestwood dragon also have babies? That's what concerns me about the Hinterlands one. You have to kill the babies AND worry about the big one blowing fire on you from above!

 

No need to apologize! took me longer than it should have to realize how powerful Vivienne is... srsly, if you ever have lots of trouble with a hard boss fight - she will help. She's really defensive. Barriers and healing is her thing. She has one move that heals the entire party fully, but it does take some leveling up to get to it.

 

I'm not sure about the Crestwood dragon actually. x.o It might not have the babies to deal with... I know the one in the Hinterlands does have the babies, but when you kill them it flies away to a little further up location and you fight it there, and if I remember correctly the babies were gone then... I think. xD I'll try to look it up and find out exactly ahaha sorry. 

[CuriousArtemis]

Thank you, my dear (as Vivienne would say) Okay as I said in PM I'm about to start the game. Hopefully I didn't waste too many of Vivienne's points in elemental stuff, though I haven't used her since coming to Skyhold. Well, what I'll do is try the Crestwood dragon first but if I get slaughtered, I'll just go back to my previous save and try the other beastie lol!

[CuriousArtemis]

OMG You guys... Bull is the last card in my list of companions. Like... WTF?! Does ONE decision have THAT much impact on his approval?! Grrrr *frustrated*

 

EDIT: Wait, this makes no sense. Solas is second to last, and he has approved of basically everything I've done.

[Chernaya]

Thank you, my dear (as Vivienne would say) Okay as I said in PM I'm about to start the game. Hopefully I didn't waste too many of Vivienne's points in elemental stuff, though I haven't used her since coming to Skyhold. Well, what I'll do is try the Crestwood dragon first but if I get slaughtered, I'll just go back to my previous save and try the other beastie lol!

 

Sounds good, I wish you luck. No worries, you'll get the romance working soon.

 

Also about the card thing, I don't think the order has to do with their approval, does it? Bc he was always last for me as well, even after completing his romance and maxing out his approval haha.

[KyndredRaven]

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Ok, I can't take it any more. I have tears running down my face from the flirtations between Bull and Cassandra...it's too hilarious.

[Chernaya]

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Ok, I can't take it any more. I have tears running down my face from the flirtations between Bull and Cassandra...it's too hilarious.

 

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omg, puuuuhlease spoil me on what they say. I barely ever get any banter, so I feel like I'm missing out on a lot of hilarious stuff lol

[LikesGuysWithBeards]

Sounds good, I wish you luck. No worries, you'll get the romance working soon.

 

Also about the card thing, I don't think the order has to do with their approval, does it? Bc he was always last for me as well, even after completing his romance and maxing out his approval haha.

 

Yeah, the order doesn't have anything to do with approval! I'm not sure the reasoning to the order, if it has one at all even. I do know the cards change depending on the choices you make for each character and whether you romanced them or not though!