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[Sui Causa]

Iron Bull is a great muse. ♥ He pulled a completely finished fanfiction out of me, when I am usually not capable of that at all. (I'm great at planning/starting stuff, and then never finishing it.)

 

Not only that, I've started working on another one that I've made 3k words progress on so far, with only writing on it at work. I'm totally okay with this.

 

My version of Lavellan is easy enough to write though. He has his things that need to be talked through now and then, but Bull only has to really put his hands on him to make him willing for sex, and he positively craves the man, so they get along rather well. >.> Fun stuff to write.

[HuldraDancer]

I think thats a lot of my problem with writing I haven't quite figured out my Cadash quite yet other than the survivor's guilt and that she is all about riding dat Bull

[Lady Nuggins]

I think thats a lot of my problem with writing I haven't quite figured out my Cadash quite yet other than the survivor's guilt and that she is all about riding dat Bull

 

I mean, what else do you need? 

[Chernaya]

...I've never finished a fanfiction. I have like... 8 unfinished ones, though.  and they all suck 

 

It's a fun personal exercise though.

[HuldraDancer]

I will agree it is a fun exercise, I can't remember the last time I finished a writing thing since school papers. I'll get about half way maybe and loose steam even if I by some miracle get a good idea too At least I can do well enough for rps. 

 

Which reminds me anyone know any sites for DA rps? My old rp site closed down for good back in October.

[Jecklers]

It raised mine too. No one likes being the dirty little secret but yeah I kind of think it's a mix of both. (I half wish it was an option with Dorian to see his reaction to see if he's as hypocritical as I think but alas).

 

I probably would've just taken the tsun viewpoint if not for that Bull is abusive nonsense. That got me sideyeing most of their banter and the one I saw looking bad from that was Dorian. But I was never in support of their romance being healthy. It doesn't seem like it is at all.

 

BUT YES. *readies daggers* I shall defend my husbando to the death.

 

(That said I at least wish we could ask him what happened to his fingers and legs. There's a story there and I want to hear it )

 

The thing is, Iron Bull has a lot of red-flag behaviors IMO.

 

Some examples:

* Bragging about his ability to emotionally manipulate people (claiming that he always knows what partners need, mentioning that his fighting style depends on projecting a persona, etc)

 

* Refusing to negotiate the relationship - he doesn't insist on D/s relationship because that's what he needs, he insists on it because it's what he thinks the PC needs.  This is a classic tactic of emotional manipulation, the 'I'm only thinking of you tactic' (another example is Tangled's Mother Knows Best song).

 

* Being aggressive with personal space - not just being a big guy, but sprawling, getting into people's space, etc. This can be friendly, but it can also very easily be an intimidation tactic.

 

* Crude language and bragging about sexual conquests - people use this to make themselves seem more shocking/interesting/intimidating.

 

I don't think he is manipulative, but he has a lot of red-flag behaviors.  Each person's reaction probably varies depending on their exposure to these kinds of problems, which is why there's such a wide range of reactions to him.  Combine that with Dorian being unhappy/ashamed of the relationship and I can see how people would be upset.

 

Personally, I'm glad that Bioware put Iron Bull in and think he's a great character...but these red flag behaviors would set off my alarms enough that IRL I'd avoid him. 

 

I'm also pretty sad that Bioware didn't go all the way and do an asexual relationship option. Iron Bull comes right out and says the Qunari separate deep emotional attachment and sex, so it would make sense for an open asexual relationship to be an option. Maybe the next game.

[Sui Causa]

I find RP's satisfy my need for feedback when I'm writing, but eventually they always end up dieing out before you get to RP out all the things you plan in advance. q_q

 

Haven't done any Dragon Age RP though, usually the best I get is an writing community dedicated to my favorite character where I sit and overdose on them via fanfiction. (I have not found one of these for Iron Bull yet, so this thread is my current home!)

[Iyim13]

That is true.  He is awfully blunt about delicate issues at times.  On the other hand, those comments do seem helpful.  Dorian seemed kind of annoyed about being told they might be at all similar, but before that line comes up, I'm pretty sure they'd mostly bickered.  They are, after all, both from warring countries.  Pointing out to a former enemy that you might have common ground is actually a pretty decent thing to do.  And with Sera, the next conversation between them is Sera telling him to say something silly whenever he hit things, so she doesn't have to think about the gory stuff.  He says he doesn't get it, but promises to do it.  So I think Iron Bull just values people ultimately getting over their issues more than whether they get annoyed or defensive with him in the short term.  

 

Which is, of course, ironic since, like you say, he'd rather get hit with a stick than deal with his own issues.  He's far better at taking care of other people than himself.

 

I agree with everything you said. I don't argue intent nor his ability to recognize emotion. I merely propose that his success in comforting people varies (which might be interesting in a story). As you said, Sera has to tell him what works for her. Dorian still snaps back, and meanly, with "I may vomit". Yet, we know that if IB/Dor aren't romanced, they will bond, so we might assume that IB's comments are resonating - or are they? It really depends on how complex a person headcannons his/her inq, right? If the inq has many personality quirks like Sera, I imagine IB would find it difficult to guess what the inq would consider healing. 

 

I love the idea that Iron Bull has to grow along with the inquisitor to make this unique relationship work.

 

(Thank you for replying. I know I'm late and this topic has moved on.)

[HuldraDancer]

I find RP's satisfy my need for feedback when I'm writing, but eventually they always end up dieing out before you get to RP out all the things you plan in advance. q_q

 

Haven't done any Dragon Age RP though, usually the best I get is an writing community dedicated to my favorite character where I sit and overdose on them via fanfiction. (I have not found one of these for Iron Bull yet, so this thread is my current home!)

 

Yes thats the sad thing about RPs sometimes they dry up quickly before you do all you wanted too or you end up getting not so great partners. Nothing is worse than an rp partner who hogs all of the attention to themselves or stops every other reply because they are upset that your character didn't laugh at their joke or constant one liners. 

 

The only rp community I've been on I've been on it since I was about nine so not having it anymore is alien and weird and a little sad.

 

I've tried two rps with DA the first was confusing to do since they wanted me to do a very specific warden but wouldn't give me details other than 'dwarf, female, hot' and a DA2 one that I messed up due to my lack of experience with rping and having two characters (I believe thats why the stopped talking to me anyway)

[Sui Causa]

I...don't think I could seriously RP with someone who's description of anything was "dwarf, female, hot." xD Raises so many red flags all at once.

 

I used to flit around on a site called Avidgamers, which was a massive RP community where you could find RP sites for pretty much everything in existance. Since that shut down I've never really been able to find a place to consistently find RP after that, so I've basically descended to writing on my own, and by that I mean, accomplishing little. >.>

 

Oh well! I've finished a good chunk of this fanfiction I was plunking away at! Rather, right up to where they are to have sex, though I'm not sure if I want to do one of those fade to blacks and be evil, or actually write out the sex itself. Hmmm, choices choices!

[HuldraDancer]

I was very desperate for an RP at the time but they refused to answer my question on what kind of warden they wanted so the rp never began. Probably for the best since I later checked out their page and had a huge list of 'Lemon Only' things they wanted to rp. I don't mind smut in rps at all but I want an actual story to go with the smut too

The site I used to go on was called Quizilla great in the beginning but soon went into a horrible buggy road since the owners kept changing it and never bothered to fix problems. Still love that site though met a lot of great people on there. Only things I wish I had a chance to rp was Fallout and DA (did one of ME once but didn't want to get saddled with Jacob so I bailed quickly)

 

If I was you I'd be evil but mostly because I'm evil and not the best at writing smut (even though I surprisingly do that a lot in rps )

[Sui Causa]

I'm there with you on the plot driven smut! It's fun and sexy and all that, but it gets awful boring in a real hurry if that's all there is to it. I need some actual character development and storylines to keep me invested or else I'll just get bored and move on.

 

Idunno if I could RP DA at this point. I'm too content writing out the back-and-forth between Bull and Quizzy, so I'd probably just suffer if I could only write one half of it. And that's totally the only thing I'm willing to stop playing the game long enough to write.

[HuldraDancer]

I"m actually quite surprised on the number of rp partners I used to have that wanted solely smut I even had someone get really mad at me when I had a character turn down sex since it was at an inappropriate time and place for it

 

I can understand that quite well even if i don't do much writing myself I do a lot of planning out in my head during my DA breaks of course

[denise12184]

It's been forever since I've RP'd and my last experience didn't go so well...the person in charge demanded a certain length to posts and wanted constant updates. It was like an English assignment or something. But, all that being said, I'm willing to give it a go if someone is willing to be patient and explain what their expectations are. Just please keep in mind that I have kids to care for. I can't always get back the minute a post is made. Let me know if you're interested. With the right people, it sounds like fun

[HuldraDancer]

It's been forever since I've RP'd and my last experience didn't go so well...the person in charge demanded a certain length to posts and wanted constant updates. It was like an English assignment or something. But, all that being said, I'm willing to give it a go if someone is willing to be patient and explain what their expectations are. Just please keep in mind that I have kids to care for. I can't always get back the minute a post is made. Let me know if you're interested. With the right people, it sounds like fun

 

*raises hand*

 

I'd be very interested I only ask is that you don't take control over any OCs I use and well that's about it I'm pretty relaxed on rules after dealing so much with people who've had two pages of rules some of them I got others were just too silly to even bother with

[denise12184]

Great! Like I said though, it's been a while. Might as well just consider me knew at this lol.

 

As far as rules, that seems fair. It was my understanding that your character was your character, so no problems there. If I screw something up, don't be afraid to let me know.

 

So... how does this start exactly?

[HuldraDancer]

Great! Like I said though, it's been a while. Might as well just consider me knew at this lol.

 

As far as rules, that seems fair. It was my understanding that your character was your character, so no problems there. If I screw something up, don't be afraid to let me know.

 

So... how does this start exactly?

 

I understand that! I haven't rped DA in ages so it might take some getting used to

You'd be surprised by how many people will take control over anothers character or characters.

 

Might I pm you so we can work something out to get it started?

[Chernaya]

Have fun guys, glad y'all found someone to RP with.

[denise12184]

Certainly! Though it's nearly 3 am where I'm at so I probably won't get back with you until tomorrow.

[ZerioctheTank]

RPing huh? I haven't done anything like that in years & I wasn't that good at it back then lol.

[HuldraDancer]

It takes a surprising amount of practice to get the hang of it. At least for me it did.

[ZerioctheTank]

If I ever decide to get into it I'll keep that in mind. My roommate used to do alot of D&D back in the day (3.5 I believe) & really wanted to DM for me but I didn't want to do a solo campaign as my first one.

[HuldraDancer]

A lot of it imo is just getting the right tune with your rp partner or partners since everyone's different and does things different. Why I always tend to ask people about any rules or limits they have before hand, though sometimes you do get really bad partners I had one partner who would take over any characters I had and became enraged if the attention wasn't on them 100% of the time, but I met a lot more awesome people too

[Lady Luminous]

I...don't think I could seriously RP with someone who's description of anything was "dwarf, female, hot." xD Raises so many red flags all at once.

 

I used to flit around on a site called Avidgamers, which was a massive RP community where you could find RP sites for pretty much everything in existance. Since that shut down I've never really been able to find a place to consistently find RP after that, so I've basically descended to writing on my own, and by that I mean, accomplishing little. >.>

 

Oh well! I've finished a good chunk of this fanfiction I was plunking away at! Rather, right up to where they are to have sex, though I'm not sure if I want to do one of those fade to blacks and be evil, or actually write out the sex itself. Hmmm, choices choices!

 

You could write out all three scenes separately and then see how well it flows. 

[Sui Causa]

You could write out all three scenes separately and then see how well it flows. 

Yes! As my story ideas usually come to me while I'm dreaming (Lucid dreamer, comes in handy for story planning!), I dreamed up the sexytime-scene I wanted to attach to this last night. Sooo it'll be some more time before I have another fanfiction to throw down onto the pile. But at least when I do toss it out, it'll have sexytimes too!