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[Qun00]

A little off topic, so I'll keep it short, but about Mass Effect: I am also not really into sci-fi or shooters, and I hesitated to play ME for years because of that. BUT, my husband finally talked me into it, and all I can say is I was missing out. I encourage you to at least give it a try. It's a great trilogy, all the fuss over it not withstanding.
 
And the pjs... ew. I could see maybe the human noble wearing something like that. Maybe. But my qunari? No way. I modded mine. I understand the inquisitor has to look the part or whatever, but my character denies being the Herald every chance she gets. No way she'd wear that stupid outfit.

I really don't think the pjs are the Herald's uniform.

You start wearing them as soon as you wake up in Haven, before the title even becomes a thing.

[Sui Causa]

Actually whenever you take off your armor from the beginning of the game, your PJ's show up.

 

They are basically your characters underwear, which means you are running around skyhold in your skivvies, and everyone is just either too scared, or appreciating the view too much to say anything.

 

>.> I think we know which category Iron Bull falls under.

[ZerioctheTank]

Well, in theory, if they could simply modify the human's ears, you could technically have a bulkier elf lol.

Humans are too much. I thought the elfs in DA:O was perfect.

[denise12184]

Actually whenever you take off your armor from the beginning of the game, your PJ's show up.

 

They are basically your characters underwear, which means you are running around skyhold in your skivvies, and everyone is just either too scared, or appreciating the view too much to say anything.

 

>.> I think we know which category Iron Bull falls under.

Y'know, I never payed attention to that, but you're right! Lol! I always assumed it was some kind of outfit for the inquisitor because of all the clasps and things.

[ZerioctheTank]

Actually you can see the PJs under some of the armor that you wear, unless my eyes have mistaken me. I still hate them & much rather wear something else, something that shows more skin & makes me more intimidating. Maybe some spiked shoulder pads with leather straps to hold them up. I would definitely want my defined six pack out in the open. Yea that sounds perfect!

[Hellion Rex]

I need bosom hugs now.

[Sui Causa]

I need bosom hugs now.

What happened? D:

 

*massages you with Bull's bosom?*

[ZerioctheTank]

I need bosom hugs now.

 

Another bad day at work I take it. Yea Bull is the perfect remedy for that kid of ailment.
 

[denise12184]

Actually you can see the PJs under some of the armor that you wear, unless my eyes have mistaken me. I still hate them & much rather wear something else, something that shows more skin & makes me more intimidating. Maybe some spiked shoulder pads with leather straps to hold them up. I would definitely want my defined six pack out in the open. Yea that sounds perfect!

Yep, they are visible under the lighter armors. Unfortunately, right now only texture replacements are possible. But modders are making significant progress so who knows what will be possible in the future.

 

Agreed on showing more skin, lol. I'm not talking skimpy or anything, but they're qunari. It's established lore that they are not covered neck to toe. I took matters into my own hands.

 

http://www.mediafire..._0103_Final.png

[ZerioctheTank]

Yep, they are visible under the lighter armors. Unfortunately, right now only texture replacements are possible. But modders are making significant progress so who knows what will be possible in the future.

 

Agreed on showing more skin, lol. I'm not talking skimpy or anything, but they're qunari. It's established lore that they are not covered neck to toe. I took matters into my own hands.

 

http://www.mediafire..._0103_Final.png

 

Now that is more like it! I'm surprised Cullen isn't changing his mind on not being into Qunari lol. I'll enjoy memory lane with the previous DA titles before I venture back into DA:I. I just purchased this new laptop that can run DA:I on it (It is suppose to be for school.....well that is what I'm telling myself) so I'm curious to see what the community comes up with. I don't need anything extravagant like the stuff in Skyrim or Fallout. Just a few customization tweaks _{and a torture Vivienne mod} and I'll be happy.

 

This reminds me that I actually have to look up some DA:O mods. FluffyNinjaLLama had some awesome outifts on her crew and I want those. Then maybe a remove friendly fire from nightmare mod......I'm getting giddy now. This is the first time I can mod a game. I really need to do my homework here.

[Qun00]

Uber NSFW link of Bull that y'all may enjoy.

What's Under Bull's Breeches?

*courtesy of tumblr page L'essence du male

I believe most people have wondered about the Iron Bull's third horn.

It must be rather big but not insane big, otherwise the girls at the tavern wouldn't be able to handle it. And certainly not an elven or dwarven Inquisitor.

[ZerioctheTank]

I believe most people have wondered about the Iron Bull's third horn.

It must be rather big but not insane big, otherwise the girls at the tavern wouldn't be able to handle it. And certainly not an elven or dwarven Inquisitor.

With enough lube and patience you'd be quite surprised what you can fit down there.

[Sui Causa]

I'm pretty sure at this point Bull has learned the art of extreme patience when it comes to sex. >.> If he rushed he'd break things and he knows it.

 

But it's so completely in character that he'd just be laid back and relaxed and take his time sort of guy. Which would just make it that much sweeter. ♥

[denise12184]

Err, yeah. I mean, at least as far as the women go, consider how babies are born, and the average newborn is like 6 lbs or so. I don't see elves or dwarves being much different. They aren't that much smaller than humans.

 

And messing around with the flycam...there's a censor bar of course, and as I understand it, everyone is shaped like Barbie under that censor bar anyway, but it is a rather large...censor bar.

[Zarro-Morningstar]

"He needs a good woman above him...because...positions."

 

I believe this could apply to Bull, but then he could also always have a man above him as well! 

[Hellion Rex]

Another bad day at work I take it. Yea Bull is the perfect remedy for that kid of ailment.
 

An accurate summation of how I am feeling at the moment.

[Beba]

Hello fellow Bull Riders  . I recently finished my first PT and Bull's romance with my mage lady Adaar. I really love Bull as character and companion and at first I enjoyed his romance as well. It was cute, sexy, funny. Everything was perfect, until...and I think I should continue with spoiler tags, because of end game spoilers. 

 

Spoiler

OK, so, everything was perfect, until we finally found The Well of Sorrows. And the obvious question for my Adaar was :Drink or not to drink? For me the most difficult decision in this game. Especially with a mage, who kinda gets the idea what's going on. After two cigarettes I decided not to drink. Now, I was really surprised with Bull reaction. Disapproval? I mean, hey, Bull, weren't you there, when Morrigan, Adaar and Abelas discussed it? We even had Cole in the party! This is your girlfriend here, who is going to risk possession, madness, lose her personality, mind, no one knows what can happen after she'll drink! Do you even care?
And because I didn't want to loose Bull's approval and because "not to drink" definitely felt wrong for my Adaar, I had a coffee, two or three cigarettes, reloaded, killed Samson again, drank the stuff. Quite bitter expierence with Bull as partner. And things got even worse. Back at Skyhold we had nice goodbye kind of scene with most of companions and advisors and we run to see Bull. All I got from him was something like :"Yeaaahhh we gonna kick some asses" Really Bull? After what happened? And my stupidquisitor topped that with something like: "It's been a honor, Bull." I stared at the monitor in silent horror and thought: Nice, if that's all you have to say to each other...

 These events kinda brought up the question, if Bull really ever cared about Inquisitor. I mean, their personality, not their... body parts. I keep thinking about it, but can't find any sign of it. And it makes me feel really sad. I don't know, maybe I missed something, maybe I picked wrong dialogue choices, maybe I missed some... nuances in Bull's character, maybe it was wrong choice of my Adaar's personality, because yes, it definitely felt like she loved Bull more then he loved her. If he ever loved her...Maybe if I would had picked Inquisitor, who would take the relationship more casually...Maybe my game was bugged and there are different lines for romanced Bull. Please, tell me my game was bugged ...  
So my feeling from romancing The Bull...I'm just sad. I'd be very grateful for any cheerful (OK, not only cheerful) thoughts on the topic "Does he even care?".

 

Thank you for listening/reading and please, forgive my English, it's not my first language and...oh Gosh, this post is so long....

[ZerioctheTank]

Hello fellow Bull Riders . I recently finished my first PT and Bull's romance with my mage lady Adaar. I really love Bull as character and companion and at first I enjoyed his romance as well. It was cute, sexy, funny. Everything was perfect, until...and I think I should continue with spoiler tags, because of end game spoilers.

Spoiler

OK, so, everything was perfect, until we finally found The Well of Sorrows. And the obvious question for my Adaar was :Drink or not to drink? For me the most difficult decision in this game. Especially with a mage, who kinda gets the idea what's going on. After two cigarettes I decided not to drink. Now, I was really surprised with Bull reaction. Disapproval? I mean, hey, Bull, weren't you there, when Morrigan, Adaar and Abelas discussed it? We even had Cole in the party! This is your girlfriend here, who is going to risk possession, madness, lose her personality, mind, no one knows what can happen after she'll drink! Do you even care?
And because I didn't want to loose Bull's approval and because "not to drink" definitely felt wrong for my Adaar, I had a coffee, two or three cigarettes, reloaded, killed Samson again, drank the stuff. Quite bitter expierence with Bull as partner. And things got even worse. Back at Skyhold we had nice goodbye kind of scene with most of companions and advisors and we run to see Bull. All I got from him was something like :"Yeaaahhh we gonna kick some asses" Really Bull? After what happened? And my stupidquisitor topped that with something like: "It's been a honor, Bull." I stared at the monitor in silent horror and thought: Nice, if that's all you have to say to each other...
These events kinda brought up the question, if Bull really ever cared about Inquisitor. I mean, their personality, not their... body parts. I keep thinking about it, but can't find any sign of it. And it makes me feel really sad. I don't know, maybe I missed something, maybe I picked wrong dialogue choices, maybe I missed some... nuances in Bull's character, maybe it was wrong choice of my Adaar's personality, because yes, it definitely felt like she loved Bull more then he loved her. If he ever loved her...Maybe if I would had picked Inquisitor, who would take the relationship more casually...Maybe my game was bugged and there are different lines for romanced Bull. Please, tell me my game was bugged ...
So my feeling from romancing The Bull...I'm just sad. I'd be very grateful for any cheerful (OK, not only cheerful) thoughts on the topic "Does he even care?".

Thank you for listening/reading and please, forgive my English, it's not my first language and...oh Gosh, this post is so long....

The disapproval for not drinking from the well upset me as well but I refused to become a servant to an old god. Having him disapprove of what you do isn't a deal breaker. Alot of bull riders had the mages join the inquisition as allies & the big guy does not like that. Don't worry about picking everything he likes, there are tons of ways to farm for approval.

[denise12184]

I think Bull's reasoning behind his disapproval for not drinking at the well stems from the general distrust of magic/mages most qunari seem to have. I always took it to mean that he trusts *you* to drink from it, not Morrigan. That being said, I've never actually seen what happens if you don't, because I always do. Not because of his - or anyone else's reaction, for that matter - but because it always felt like it was my character's responsibility to sort out Corypheus, and that was a sacrifice she was willing to make to do it. We'll see how that turns out later (hopefully) Does he say anything if you don't, or is it just the silent disapproval notification? It's entirely possible to love someone with everything you have and still disapprove of certain actions that person might take. Personally, I don't want someone that will just go along with everything I do.

 

As for his attitude at the end, I felt like he made it clear he cares by wanting to stay with you. He says for the first time he has no orders, can go anywhere, and he wants to remain at your side. Bull is Bull. A relationship isn't how qunari do things, and he says that more than once. What he has with the inquisitor is new for him, and I don't think it will ever be of the flowers and chocolates variety. You have to look a bit harder to see how deep Bull's feelings run, but it's one of the reasons I love the romance so much. Then again, it's not for everyone, and his is definitely not a typical Bioware romance.

 

I'm sorry you were disappointed. The above is all my own opinion of course, but to me, yes, he cares, and yes it's about more than just sex. Depending on how you handled his quest, you can get him to say 'I love you'. That just isn't something I see him saying if he didn't mean it.

[Sui Causa]

I think there should have been an opportunity to talk to him later about what was going on. He disapproves because he wants you to become more powerful so that you can take on corypheus, he wants you to be able to fight him and still come out alive, right? The option to bring up that the koolaid will make you an old god's servant is only available to some characters (mages or characters with the arcane knowledge perk), so I think Bioware is playing the "he didn't know" card as to why he would disapprove.

 

I think it was just a case of Bioware's laziness that you can't even talk to Bull afterwards and be like "So, you know how you don't really like the idea of one person taking over your mind? Yeah, had I drunk I would have had hundreds of people taking over my mind, plus an old god pulling the strings." And Bull being like "....well ****."

 

It's like Bioware was throwing darts at a dartboard to see which companions would approve/disapprove, and Bull just happened to be the one that hit disapprove, completely leaving out that it's really only in character for him if he doesn't know the consequences.

 

On the other hand, if you do drink, you get to tame your own god damn dragon. And I'm pretty sure Bull would approve pretty highly of that. >.>

 

As far as the ending scenes, I guess it depends on if you kill the chargers off or not. If you sacrificed them for the Qun, I see Bull being a lot less emotionally invested in the relationship than the Inquisitor, or rather...I see him being invested, but guarded knowing that the relationship is temporary because he will be returning to the Qun, and the Inquisitor doesn't really fit in with that.

 

If you keep the chargers and Bull is Tal-Vashoth, he stays with you, and I don't imagine him running off any time soon. He's actually able to plan a future with the Inquisitor without the Qun looming overhead, you get the I love you, and you get him staying with you after the end of the game. Plus the balcony scene at the end was just adorable and sexy, so totally them. ♥

 

You're romancing a qunari so it's definitely not Alistair from Origins who immediately goes into calling you "My love" and "My dear". But the big guy is sweet on you and he shows it his own way.

[Qun00]

Err, yeah. I mean, at least as far as the women go, consider how babies are born, and the average newborn is like 6 lbs or so. I don't see elves or dwarves being much different. They aren't that much smaller than humans.

And messing around with the flycam...there's a censor bar of course, and as I understand it, everyone is shaped like Barbie under that censor bar anyway, but it is a rather large...censor bar.

Childbirth is a poor example.

The woman's body goes through changes to make it possible, like cervical dilation as well as loosening the pelvic bones.

But sure, I can see what you're trying to say.

[Sui Causa]

I think Bull's reasoning behind his disapproval for not drinking at the well stems from the general distrust of magic/mages most qunari seem to have. I always took it to mean that he trusts *you* to drink from it, not Morrigan.

This is a really good point and something I didn't consider. He sees power that you can take, or alternatively you can give up. He doesn't trust Morrigan to stay and use that power for you at all, he assumes that if you don't drink you wont have it at all.

 

He wouldn't let his own feelings ever overcome that of the Inquisitor's duty. He isn't a man to shy away from consequences or not make the necessary decision based on it. Like he tells you in Haven, they elect leaders who are able to make the hard decisions and live with the consequences afterwards, this is one of those times.

 

I really think Bioware still needs to add a follow up scene to all this. It feels extremely lazy that they didn't. :| Solas gets a bit of one, but Bull gets nothing and it feels rushed and unfinished. ._.

[denise12184]

Childbirth is a poor example.

The woman's body goes through changes to make it possible, like cervical dilation as well as loosening the pelvic bones.

But sure, I can see what you're trying to say.

Cervical dilation is irrelevant in this instance.  The cervix isn't being breached during sex. (at least, it shouldn't be )My point was only to illustrate how stretchy certain parts of the anatomy can be, and that has nothing to with cervical dilation. And for other examples, well, there is a lot of weird things floating around on the internet that show the same thing. People have been pretty inventive on finding ways to put things places, and that's all I'll say on it

 

@qw12: I'd never considered that he might not know the consequences to drinking, though that is also a good point. Mage or not, I always had the arcane perk, and my quizzy pretty much spelled everything out. Cole, too. And yeah, that bit in Haven kinda stuck with me. I always chalked the well up to one of those hard decisions, and my quizzy's eternal servitude living with the consequences. That, and I really, really want to see what those consequences are. I keep telling myself that I'm going to make a character that doesn't drink from the well, but so far that hasn't happened. It isn't about power, it's about Morrigan seeming so eager to take it for herself. Now, I love Morrigan, but from an RP perspective, she's given your inquisitor very little reason to trust her.

 

I agree that there could have been more dialogue, but certain parts of Bull's romance do seem rushed. Like not having a dance cutscene. Still, I'm happy we have what we do.

[Sui Causa]

I'm still not sure on my head-canon for it, but I'm fairly certain that my Inquisitor is going to choose to not drink from the well, and get to argue with Bull about it later. But the way he sees it, it's an easier time to kill Morrigan and continue on if the consequences of her drinking are too high, then it is to kill himself and have the person who can close rifts cease to exist, or worse, start to use that power against the world.

 

Right now he's thinking "Well it all worked out okay...!" Knowing that at some point in time something is going to bite him in the ass.

 

But I haven't drank from the well yet either, so I will give that a chance before I decide. :3

[Tvorceskiy]

I also see Bull's disapproval for not drinking stemming from the way his mind works; Morrigan is an unknown. You don't know her. You can’t trust her. He probably sees it as "Why would you let someone you can't trust take all of this power when they could just turn the f around and screw us later?"

I can see Krem later on going "Boss. That tart is now an old god puppet and if the inquisitor drank s/he'd be a puppet and then we'd never hear the end of it." >.>