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I preordered WOT hardcover edition for $28 and free shipping haha, so that's not so bad for me considering I live in Canada and everything tends to be extra pricey for no reason here.

 

Someday I'll romance Cullen but he's just so...traditionally attractive blond man falls in love with traditionally attractive woman and they have traditionally attractive straight sex. I want my scandalous qunari husbando that's into kinky sex with whatever race and gender you throw at him, specifically including a fabulous tevinter mage or a savage little dalish elf. ♥ Does far more for me haha.


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Mengor, I know what you mean about other characters. I made a Lady Trevelyan to try out the Cullen romance and she ran off with Bull. I made an elf for Solas, and she's just sitting at Haven. My second Trevelyan actually got about 75% in with Cullen, and I'm just not interested in continuing....I made another qunari to romance Iron Bull. (This will be Adaar #4) I might have a problem...

 

Last I checked, World of Thedas is pretty pricey. Is it worth it? I have all of the novels, but I've decided to skip the comics.

 

Cool!! I thought I was the only with that issue...Guess not haha. I really try my best but.... with that behaviour, personality, also not too shabby voice acting (first I wasn´t sure. As far as I know is the same one as Scooby-Doo) Mmmmmmm :wub:  How can we resist  :D ?

 

As for Wot, I am still looking for prices and more options of websites. So far... I reckon Amazon could be my best bet. Right now price is 41,44 €. Dunno for other countries. I will wait a bit longer to research any possible discount or something like that.


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Cool!! I thought I was the only with that issue...Guess not haha. I really try my best but.... with that behaviour, personality, also not too shabby voice acting (first I wasn´t sure. As far as I know is the same one as Scooby-Doo) Mmmmmmm :wub:  How can we resist  :D ?

 

As for Wot, I am still looking for prices and more options of websites. So far... I reckon Amazon could be my best bet. Right now price is 41,44 €. Dunno for other countries. I will wait a bit longer to research any possible discount or something like that.

http://www.amazon.ca...world of thedas

Its on for a really good price on amazon but...canadian. :x This is very unhelpful I'm sorry.


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http://www.amazon.ca...world of thedas

Its on for a really good price on amazon but...canadian. :x This is very unhelpful I'm sorry.

I laughed.

 

I don't know why but I did. So, there's that :)


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I preordered WOT hardcover edition for $28 and free shipping haha, so that's not so bad for me considering I live in Canada and everything tends to be extra pricey for no reason here.

 

Someday I'll romance Cullen but he's just so...traditionally attractive blond man falls in love with traditionally attractive woman and they have traditionally attractive straight sex. I want my scandalous qunari husbando that's into kinky sex with whatever race and gender you throw at him, specifically including a fabulous tevinter mage or a savage little dalish elf. ♥ Does far more for me haha.

Honestly, I don't know. I adore both Iron Bull and Cullen because they're so different. Bull is funny, kinky, and surprisingly sweet. Cullen has more baggage, but he's very traditional in romance (I'm a hopeless romantic). I have multiple playthroughs of Cullen romance and one of Iron Bull romance where I have a backup save so I can experience it over and over.

 

I'm torn.


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There were some moments in the Cullen romance that made me go 'D'awww!' I can admit that. And there was no real reason for me to be bored with it. If I had not romanced Bull first, (I had my first PT planned as qunari quizzy romancing Bull before I even had confirmation that Bull was a LI) I know I would have liked Cullen's. Alistair was my go-to romance in origins,  and yeah, both are pretty much classic romances.

 

Thing is, I think Bull spoiled me for classic romance.(and before him, Garrus) There's a lot of those d'aww moments with Bull, too, and they mean more, because they're coming from a guy that has no concept of romantic love. He kinda just fell into it, and he's doing his best with something that is completely foreign to him. I loved Alistair's rose, but that was blown out of the water when I saw Bull's expression as the quizzy gives him the dragon tooth. Sure, there's no poetry or flowers (maybe we can get dirty limericks out of Bull?), but there's sincerity, and that, to me, is more romantic that chivalrous gestures. I'm not really fond of chivalry anyway, but that's a different discussion entirely.

 

Just my opinion, of course. :) Enjoy whatever romance you like to your heart's content.


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There were some moments in the Cullen romance that made me go 'D'awww!' I can admit that. And there was no real reason for me to be bored with it. If I had not romanced Bull first, (I had my first PT planned as qunari quizzy romancing Bull before I even had confirmation that Bull was a LI) I know I would have liked Cullen's. Alistair was my go-to romance in origins,  and yeah, both are pretty much classic romances.

 

Thing is, I think Bull spoiled me for classic romance.(and before him, Garrus) There's a lot of those d'aww moments with Bull, too, and they mean more, because they're coming from a guy that has no concept of romantic love. He kinda just fell into it, and he's doing his best with something that is completely foreign to him. I loved Alistair's rose, but that was blown out of the water when I saw Bull's expression as the quizzy gives him the dragon tooth. Sure, there's no poetry or flowers (maybe we can get dirty limericks out of Bull?), but there's sincerity, and that, to me, is more romantic that chivalrous gestures. I'm not really fond of chivalry anyway, but that's a different discussion entirely.

 

Just my opinion, of course. :) Enjoy whatever romance you like to your heart's content.

 

I think everything you said above is the reason why I like Bull's romance path; even more so if played as Adaar being that adds another layer of character development that I wish Bioware played more with. In fact, the whole Tal-Vashoth/Ben-Hassrath dynamic could have been played more with if you were playing as Qunari. (Also kinda wish with Bull being declared as one was more than "Hey I'm Tal-Vashoth now' being that's a big deal for him. That one scene after his personal mission was good and all but still)


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Yeah, there was a lot of stuff that could have been expanded on. I made a hornless mage Adaar once, just to maximize the potential for any new dialogue and was disappointed to find that there was no real difference in that one or any other qunari. But I can understand why, with Inquisition being a huge game already. There is some party banter that is specific to Bull becoming Tal-Vashoth, and that's a nice touch, but I agree it would have been nice to see more. One thing I wish was different is the way Bull open's up about his fear in losing the Qun with some of the companions. I really would have liked for that to have happened with quizzy instead, but all in all, I'm more than satisfied with his romance arc.


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Yeah, there was a lot of stuff that could have been expanded on. I made a hornless mage Adaar once, just to maximize the potential for any new dialogue and was disappointed to find that there was no real difference in that one or any other qunari. But I can understand why, with Inquisition being a huge game already. There is some party banter that is specific to Bull becoming Tal-Vashoth, and that's a nice touch, but I agree it would have been nice to see more. One thing I wish was different is the way Bull open's up about his fear in losing the Qun with some of the companions. I really would have liked for that to have happened with quizzy instead, but all in all, I'm more than satisfied with his romance arc.

 

Exactly. Oh well, that's what headcanons and fanfiction are for.

 

And all aboard the Qunari Mage train *fistpump* 


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Hi guys, how is it going?

 

Today I was in a playful/naughty mood. I was wondering how to catch Iron Bull off guard, and the only idea that came to me was this one :P

 

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While I admit this is not the best screenshot, I found it hilarious and fun  :D. So I wanted to share it with you guys ;).  You know it´s not that easy to break his confident spirit. Here he is like.... Oh crap now what haha. If you guys have a better attempt feel free to share :)!

 

Another point: lets imagine we have the following image:

 

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Many of you will recognize what moment is this. My question is: could I rotate left/right this with Flycam maybe? I really would like a shot with that pose.

 

By thw way Sui... DAT back in your profile image.... :wub:  Where did you get it? There´s no way I could have missed that lol


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Hi guys, how is it going?

 

Today I was in a playful/naughty mood. I was wondering how to catch Iron Bull off guard, and the only idea that came to me was this one :P

 

Spoiler

 

While I admit this is not the best screenshot, I found it hilarious and fun  :D. So I wanted to share it with you guys ;).  You know it´s not that easy to break his confident spirit. Here he is like.... Oh crap now what haha. If you guys have a better attempt feel free to share :)!

 

Another point: lets imagine we have the following image:

 

Spoiler

 

Many of you will recognize what moment is this. My question is: could I rotate left/right this with Flycam maybe? I really would like a shot with that pose.

 

By thw way Sui... DAT back in your profile image.... :wub:  Where did you get it? There´s no way I could have missed that lol

I love the "I thought we were getting married!" response in that scene, he just fumbles so hard it's adorable. ♥ I always end up going for the I love You option because I'm a horrible sap, but not after going with the marriage one first so I can have a good giggle at Iron Bull's expense. <3

 

My avatar is from the dragon's tooth scene, flycam'd to get a delightful view of Iron Bull's back. :D


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I preordered WOT hardcover edition for $28 and free shipping haha, so that's not so bad for me considering I live in Canada and everything tends to be extra pricey for no reason here.

 

Someday I'll romance Cullen but he's just so...traditionally attractive blond man falls in love with traditionally attractive woman and they have traditionally attractive straight sex. I want my scandalous qunari husbando that's into kinky sex with whatever race and gender you throw at him, specifically including a fabulous tevinter mage or a savage little dalish elf. ♥ Does far more for me haha.

 

Heh everyone has their preferences nothing wrong with that ^_^

 

I admit I love a good bodice ripper and Megane boyfriend once in a while so :whistle:

 

I totally squeed so hard over Shuichi's route in Kissed By the Baddest Bidder. Hit all my unfs in fictional men.

 

But Cullen soothes my inner white knight romance heart and has enough woobieficiation without it being facepalm inducing that I just love it to itty bitty pieces.

 

I think everything you said above is the reason why I like Bull's romance path; even more so if played as Adaar being that adds another layer of character development that I wish Bioware played more with. In fact, the whole Tal-Vashoth/Ben-Hassrath dynamic could have been played more with if you were playing as Qunari. (Also kinda wish with Bull being declared as one was more than "Hey I'm Tal-Vashoth now' being that's a big deal for him. That one scene after his personal mission was good and all but still)

 

OMG yeah.

 

I was waiting for my drama (but not od drama but normal inside the relationship drama that can be resolved without BS, manipulation and lies) and nope. It did not occur.


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Good news and bad news:

 

Good news is I am testing this FlyCam and its awesome! A whole new world of possibilities opens up to me wow. I guess i´ll spend a lot of time with IB now xD. Am I the only one that feels like a photographer taking shots from a top model or something lol? (Still trying to get used to it, since there are times flycam pops in unexpected locations ^_^)

 

Bad news is I keep being interrupted at home by telephone/family/real world stuff. I can´t work my magic like this!! I should have my own photo studio. Next time I am chaining my door shut lol.

 

I´ll let you know when I have more new shots :)


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Every cut scene is a new adventure once you get flycam going. <3 I love it to bits. I know what it's like being interrupted constantly though, between my job and my husband and friends I never seem to have time to sit down and do all the things I want to do, haha.

 

I have a three day weekend coming up though, it will be devoted to Iron Bull and the writing I'm determined to finish for him. ♥


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I love the "I thought we were getting married!" response in that scene, he just fumbles so hard it's adorable. ♥ I always end up going for the I love You option because I'm a horrible sap, but not after going with the marriage one first so I can have a good giggle at Iron Bull's expense. <3

My avatar is from the dragon's tooth scene, flycam'd to get a delightful view of Iron Bull's back. :D


As much as I love that dialogue option, I had to choose something else.

The Iron Bull's romance already has a lot of comedy. If I can lead the conversation towards a more serious tone to balance things out, I will.

I picked the option "If we don't make it through this..." to which Bull responds with shock, concern and sadness. The scene ends with him comforting you.
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Yeah, I always reload the scene a few times to get all the options each playthrough, just because they're all beautiful and show the different sides to the relationship. Having Iron Bull safe word out of a conversation that's too much for him is amazing and I definitely think that's an excellent choice as well. ♥ I just also enjoy the fact that when you start he says "We don't have sex for love." And by the end he's saying he loves you while he lowers you down for more sex. It's just a nice fuzzy feel of how far he's come and how comfortable he's gotten. C:


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As much as I love that dialogue option, I had to choose something else.

The Iron Bull's romance already has a lot of comedy. If I can lead the conversation towards a more serious tone to balance things out, I will.

I picked the option "If we don't make it through this..." to which Bull responds with shock, concern and sadness. The scene ends with him comforting you.

 

The only reason I don't feel right picking that is because the game is too much of a curbstomp over Cory for me to take that line seriously.



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Even the characters mock him, man.

Flemeth: "Yes, the magister trying to reach beyond his grasp. I know."

I don't remember the full dialogue word by word, but Solas mentions how you've foiled Cory's plans repeatedly and then describes his likely next move as "rather than admitting defeat, he will destroy the chess board like a child".

There probably is more from others.
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As much as I love that dialogue option, I had to choose something else.

The Iron Bull's romance already has a lot of comedy. If I can lead the conversation towards a more serious tone to balance things out, I will.

I picked the option "If we don't make it through this..." to which Bull responds with shock, concern and sadness. The scene ends with him comforting you.

 

I tried that too.... by accident haha. But I reckon it breaks the charming atmosphere. When I did, I was like   :o "oh no no no no no, dont worry Iron Bull forget that" I admit I got shocked as well. Maybe they could have used instead something like "Dont worry Kadan I´ll protect you no matter what" or... I dont know, something more romantic like start kissing each other more ferociously in response to that strong feeling perhaps?  :wub:

 

Sigh.... I am afraid I won´t spend much time with IB today due to my German exam....Ugh I dont feel like studying today you know... I´d rather have some drinks with him at tavern so that he can keep telling me his opinion about my

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 lol.  <3  <3 I am missing also any dialogue option to tell him what I think about his.... ;)


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I'm filming Iron Bull-romance now (did Dorian already) and I was quite reluctant to do it at first. But boy was I wrong! When I finally got it going (took forever to get there compared to Dorian) I have had the best laughs ever. I literally almost peed myself:

 

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And I absolutely love the nuance this romance gives to my inquisitor. You know, Bull dominates him from left and right and I absolutely love it.

 

First I was in tears because I laughed so much, and then I was in tears because they were so touching when Inky gave Bull the dragontooth-amulet. I still haven't seen the last romance-sceen (one before end-sceen), obviously I have to do more MQ. I will post the video here when it is finished.


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I'm filming Iron Bull-romance now (did Dorian already) and I was quite reluctant to do it at first. But boy was I wrong! When I finally got it going (took forever to get there compared to Dorian) I have had the best laughs ever. I literally almost peed myself:

 

ySjC.gif

 

And I absolutely love the nuance this romance gives to my inquisitor. You know, Bull dominates him from left and right and I absolutely love it.

 

First I was in tears because I laughed so much, and then I was in tears because they were so touching when Inky gave Bull the dragontooth-amulet. I still haven't seen the last romance-sceen (one before end-sceen), obviously I have to do more MQ. I will post the video here when it is finished.

 

Totally love the spanking xD.

 

 

 

Thing is, I think Bull spoiled me for classic romance.(and before him, Garrus) There's a lot of those d'aww moments with Bull, too, and they mean more, because they're coming from a guy that has no concept of romantic love. He kinda just fell into it, and he's doing his best with something that is completely foreign to him. I loved Alistair's rose, but that was blown out of the water when I saw Bull's expression as the quizzy gives him the dragon tooth. Sure, there's no poetry or flowers (maybe we can get dirty limericks out of Bull?), but there's sincerity, and that, to me, is more romantic that chivalrous gestures. I'm not really fond of chivalry anyway, but that's a different discussion entirely.

 

 

 

I can´t agree more. You pointed out an important aspect of Iron Bull. I mean, I knew there was something special about IB when I experienced his romance for the very first time, it is not only a matter of sex, but also what a relationship should be about: he completely breaks the classic concept of the brainless beefy cake warrior who only knows about brute force. He explains everything clear from the begining and yet when you might think he can not surprise you...He really does!! Yes, its all about sincerity... honesty and communication between both parts. That´s probably the reason (in addition to all the reasons I gave way earlier) I cant just stop thinking about him lol.   :wub:  :wub:

 

Pd: I am having trouble when I try to use mods, like the one to show IB tatoos all the time. The game crashes or the files dont work.... Am I doing something wrong? Is there a way I can fix that?


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Mengor, which mods are you using? How are you installing them?



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And I appreciate you being polite in turn. The internet is enough of a toilet without throwing more crap in :P

 

I really do think the Qun has a lot of good to it, and that it gives people a chance that might not have had one outside of it. Gatt is a great example of that. But he's also the one (correct me if I'm wrong, it's been a bit since that mission) that said some people see it as just another form of slavery. And they are justified in thinking so. And I agree that there's really no reason to re-educate a willing convert. But their methods are what I have an issue with. Some of what is described about the process is torture and pretty much all of it amounts to brainwashing.

 

I may sound like I hate the Qun, and really, I don't. I love the qunari culture/race - what little BW is willing to tell us, anyway. It's one of the most interesting societies in the entire game.  Bull has a point when he says that at least they try to fix people instead of just lopping their heads off, but some of the fixes might be worse, depending on the individual. In theory, the Qun is great. In practice, (kinda like communism) it doesn't work out so well. But then, the same could be said for the circles, the Chantry, and a lot of other things in the DA universe. And, I will be the first to admit that I'm just flat-out biased. For me personally, the thought of being turned into a mindless drone is horrifying. Sure, they're content and don't know any difference, but that just seems worse. And I have the same issues with the Rite of Tranquility, so it isn't just the Qun.

 

Well at least you aren't like the others who are only a few comments away from being worse than the elf-haters. I don't have the stones, but it would be hilarious just to make a Qun appreciation thread just to see how many trolls would pop up.

 

The Qun is a meritocracy and for the most part it's a system that suits their society. I think its essentialist perspective perhaps is what is both a strength and perhaps the main drawback. When it's at its peak, it's practically a utopia where everyone excels at doing what they were "destined to" for the benefit of their civilization because they actually are using the skills they excelled at the most. At it's worst you have the Saarebas and re-educators. We know so little about it that I was actually surprised by some of what Gatt said; in one moment when talking about how he struggled with the Qun, he actually mentioned trying to "change" those aspects of it.

 

I think it probably has more nuance to it than we currently know. Problems aside, I like that they don't just randomly assign you roles, but that you're evaluated and given one in the area you excel the most. For the most part, it's matter-of-fact and doesn't have all the ideological trappings other societies have. Anyone with the potential or skill - even people born outside of the Qun - can become an Arishok or Arigena, even an Ariqun. Is it restrictive? Definitely. But it isn't a glass ceiling created by elites like Capitalism can be when used in the wrong hands. Everyone has a duty to the Qun- including those at the top- which is why I tend to view comparisons to slavery as hubris(unless one wants to argue that they're a slave to Koslun, but that's academic :P ).

 

Of course, believing that it's their duty to convert everyone else is an alarming red flag, not because of the sentiment itself - alot of societies and some religious sects share this sentiment - but because they clearly are formidable enough to see it through if they ever reach their peak. They're already among the most advanced technologically; just imagine how terrifying it would be if they treated magic with the same respect!

 

I find it interesting, on another note, that the weird forehead tattoo doesn't appear on some tranquil.


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I wonder if being a reaver would make the Inquisitor more... resilient when going into BSDM with the Iron Bull.

You know, like "You call that pain?"
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Anyone else hoping they elaborate on the kossith and the rumors that the blood of the Qunari has been infused with the blood of dragons?????

Also Iron Bull romance scene funniest scene ever!!!